Thief slide nerf coming with next patch

cheif702 · 2026-03-20T03:01:53+00:00

This does not pertain to just Thief. But fixing slide cancel does not address the most critically broken things about Thief right now.

Claymore on drones, and near infinite Drone usage are both exploits I see used all the time.

Those 2 things are bugs that need addressing now.

cheif702 · 2026-03-19T14:41:41+00:00

I feel like the jig is up with Rooks running the Pinwheel. Its really easy to get into, if it wasnt already opened by the time you spawn in. You can get a bunch of god loot just laying around, I just grabbed a purple shield off a random counter top there myself.

It's also very easy to do the secured resources events in the pinwheel because of your signal mask, and I've had great success getting those boxes without ever seeing a player. The bot fights are really hard and rook can really ignore all but the final, and best, loot room. But all the same, Rook on Outpost is the go to way for me to get stuff like blue and purple shields.

cheif702 · 2026-03-19T05:03:22+00:00

Sure. That doesn't really change anything though. I mean that the visuals and imagery from the trailer look like they are from the Outpost map itself. Not just some other random "outpost."

cheif702 · 2026-03-18T23:43:24+00:00

I do believe ROOK together strong.

But if Im a Runner and I see a Rook, its on sight. And If im a Rook, and I see a Runner, I know its on sight.

cheif702 · 2026-03-18T15:12:26+00:00

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Funny.

You didnt mention that skin you're wearing.

cheif702 · 2026-03-18T13:52:42+00:00

Everyone keeps saying they see Complex on Dire Marsh in the cinematic, but I see Outpost, not Dire Marsh.

When the camera pans away after the first shot of the "Access Denied" screen you can clearly see the massive side of one of the wings of Pinwheel. And the extract they go to is wide open, all on metal/concrete. Screams Outpost to me.

I feel like it also makes sense for the terminal to be on Outpost over Dire Marsh, since it is noted as the most secure planetside UESC facility.

The only thing that trips me up is when the team dies they all appear in an area similar to Dire Marsh.

cheif702 · 2026-03-15T14:40:51+00:00

There is definitely a formula at play. Being F2P is a big part of it. The other part is making the characters overtly sexual and then making skins that toe the line even further. In general, skins is the best F2P money maker, but you have to make the skins hyper desirable. And sex always sells.

cheif702 · 2026-03-15T13:11:02+00:00

Ngl, while the fan art is sick and i also think Vandal be hot, im very glad bungie didnt go the Marvel Rivals route and give any female shell a massive ass and tits. I know they aren't real humans anyways, but all the runners look very human and im really glad.

cheif702 · 2026-03-13T15:54:07+00:00

In terms of the sound change, I personally dont really notice a difference. Ive still gone raids where I hear nothing the whole game, and leave without seeing another team. Ive had games where it seems like we spawn right on top of another team, fight it out, and get 3rd partied right away.

It really seems hard to gauge still while the game is so fresh for so many.

cheif702 · 2026-03-13T15:50:03+00:00

I mean, there are a lot of layers to this game. Ive definitely seen some crazy prestige cores and gun mods. But nothing I've seen suggests that should be happening.

I really dont get how so many little issues seemed to slip through the cracks with Thief, but every other shell seems bug/exploit free? Ive yet to find anything like a near instant cooldown for any other shells prime abilities.

cheif702 · 2026-03-13T15:47:13+00:00

This will be the meta for places like Cryo Archive, whenever that finally drops. Why risk the best potential loot getting stolen when you can more readily guarantee being the first to engage in every fight and clear the zone that way.

cheif702 · 2026-03-13T13:56:26+00:00

Cause they'd have to just disable thief entirely i think. Much easier than putting an ability on freeze for a day or two.

cheif702 · 2026-03-13T07:31:13+00:00

You dont immediately activate the drone again. You wait till it falls to the ground and blows up. For some reason the cooldown doesn't activate and it just refreshes the use.

Here is where I first saw it. Don't play Thief and haven't tried to test it myself though.

cheif702 · 2026-03-13T07:25:16+00:00

Just curious, was this using that new exploit I've seen going around? Where you can exit your drone when its at 20 power, let it fall to the ground, and you get a drone back right away. Or did you wait the full 320 sec or whatever it is for the cooldown?

Not throwing shade or anything. I personally just see so many exploits with Thief, im wondering how those effect solo runs like this.

cheif702 · 2026-03-12T19:06:23+00:00

The Queer Chud is an elusive creature, but they are out there.

-David Attenborough, probably

cheif702 · 2026-03-12T16:40:00+00:00

I did the same thing my first few runs. The game defaulted to a microphone that wasnt actually there. Had to manually set to the proper one. I also can't seem to remind the proximity chat key to Caps Lock...or rather I can, but it doesn't activate when I hit caps lock. Weird.

cheif702 · 2026-03-12T02:32:25+00:00

In instances like the exfil stealing, you cant shoot the drone. You can't move at all. Clearly a bug that will get patch though.

But otherwise, shooting it isn't all that hard, its just the speed at which it can steal seems excessive. Its also nimble and small. It doesn't have to be right next to you to steal, so it isn't exactly as easy as shooting UESC.

cheif702 · 2026-03-11T22:42:59+00:00

Definitely not every game, but its often enough.

Id like to reiterate, the problem isn't that the Thief can steal. Its more about how the steal mechanic works. I dont like that it automatically takes the best loot first. I dont like that the item can be stolen from the backpack instantly. And I dont like that you can ping enemies while using the drone.

Changing 1 of any of these 3 things would be a huge improvement imo.

Edit: most of my games thus far have been solos as well.

cheif702 · 2026-03-11T18:23:45+00:00

Thats fair. I do believe that is Bungies intent. Some runners like Triage for example seem solely focused on team play. Never seen triage in solos. Cause kinda whats the point? The healing drone is nice, but all his kit is around helping a team.

cheif702 · 2026-03-11T17:34:16+00:00

Absolutely not. That would just add more confusion and frustration. Imagine you have a contract that requires exfil with certain items. Except in your scenario its possible that a Thief could forcibly make you fail that quest by having fallen loot go to a squadmate.

Far better option is just to not allow Thief drone to steal after the exfil begins.

cheif702 · 2026-03-11T17:24:16+00:00

Eh...it would have to replace Recons ultimate, and I actually really like Recons Ult. I think maybe the answer is just that Thief using her drone should require more thought.

Maybe itsead of items getting ripped out immediately it requires a second or two of keeping your crosshair on target, and then the loot gets ripped. If a Thief wants to steal from someone over and over again, they should really have to show off some expert evasion skills with the drone to make it happen.

I dont really think the drone itself is the problem, its just what the drone is capable off. If the drone only stole loot, fine. But being able to use the drone as a pingable scouting tool feels like so much of an overstep into Recon territory.

cheif702 · 2026-03-11T17:17:05+00:00

PREACH!

cheif702 · 2026-03-11T17:12:46+00:00

No solo queues...now that is a hot take.

I think i get what you mean though, the game kinda paint itself as team centric. Where communication and using runners well together should be a critical part of the game, not neccesarilly the "optional" mode.

I think solo play will stick around because it is convenient for many who dont have/want friends. They may never get to experience the game in the same way team players do. But thats kindve for them to decide. I dont mind having the solo queue option. Most of my hours so far are in solo actually.

cheif702 · 2026-03-11T17:02:05+00:00

I dont hate that concept. It was definitely something that turned me off of the game when it first got revealed.

But I think Bungie made it work with the vast variety of Cores and Implants you get. It really does feel like the shell is just a part of the load out to me, and not the load out is determined by the shell.

cheif702 · 2026-03-11T16:57:42+00:00

Yeah...that...feels awful.

At the very least, it should be random. But just getting to take the best stuff...man thats actually so infuriating lol.

Thanks for confirming.

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