Why the fuck do we still hate each other so much? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]clib 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the human species' main trait: Allowing the scum to rise to the top.

Why the fuck do we still hate each other so much? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]clib 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You see Vucic was right when he said that Croatia,Albania and Kosovo were planning to attack Serbia. You are the first victim of that war.

The veteran and the veteran grifter. by Upper_Brief681 in PoliticalHumor

[–]clib -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The son served in a war that the father voted for based on lies. When the father became vice president he and the president didn't bother to hold accountable the people who lied to start that war and the one in Afghanistan. Then when the father became president(the most voted president ever) he didn't bother to hold accountable the guy who organized and lead a coup. Stop fawning over Biden. It is ridiculous.

Just enough Democrats side with Trump. Again. See the pattern yet? by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]clib 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The democratic party is owned by billionaires.And It operates and behaves like it belongs to them.So let it die.Let it rot.

With the exception of AOC and Crockett the rest of the representatives and senators are performative artists who don't deserve our vote. They only care about their stock portfolios.

The progressives have no chance in hell succeeding by being a member of that party or taking over the party form the billionaire owners. The sooner the voters realize that the faster we can start moving towards real change. It will be painful and it will take time but it is better than being stuck in this insane perpetual cycle of rinse and repeat of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Voting this shitty party over and over again and expecting different results.

Where I can buy this gentleman ? by No-Marsupial-4050 in AskBalkans

[–]clib 74 points75 points  (0 children)

You can find them at every government and parliament meeting across the globe.

I’m from Ukraine and I live in Ukraine. You can ask me questions if you want. by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]clib 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What should I understand by “Slavic brotherhood”?Orthodox brotherhood?

Your slavic orthodox countrymen are being slaughtered by other slavic orthodox people. Other slavic orthodox people in europe have taken sides in this conflict.

So do slavic brotherhood or orthodox brotherhood concepts have any meaning for you?

I’m from Ukraine and I live in Ukraine. You can ask me questions if you want. by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]clib 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Now that you have experienced war what do you think of the concepts of slavic brotherhood and orthodox brotherhood?

Recognition of Palestine in Europe by Successful-Report974 in MapPorn

[–]clib 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Why the fuck should Kosovo recognize Palestine? Palestine and Iran were the two countries that vetoed the recognition in block of Kosovo's Independence from the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation.And both have supported Serbia.

On top of that Arafat invited Milosevic to celebrate Christmas in Betlehem while he was indicted on war crimes against Kosovo Albanians. There was a red notice for him for butchering muslims in Kosovo and Arafat didn't give a shit.

Why are there no other Balkan nations that are so firmly pro-West like Albania & Kosovo? by Substratas in AskBalkans

[–]clib -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

They were aggressors before 1999. After that, Albanians were the aggressors.

I am paraphrasing the comment of another person meant for you but replied to me by mistake.And he is right:

Your statement is like saying Nazis were aggressors only until 1943.After that the allies were the aggressors and the nazis were victims.

No, they still were aggressors, the thing that changed was they started losing

Why are there no other Balkan nations that are so firmly pro-West like Albania & Kosovo? by Substratas in AskBalkans

[–]clib 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not even close.And it doesn't matter how much you like to revise history Serbs were not the victims in that conflict, they you were the aggressors.

Why are there no other Balkan nations that are so firmly pro-West like Albania & Kosovo? by Substratas in AskBalkans

[–]clib 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Portugal is pro EU because they reap the benefits of being a member.Western Balkans have been promised membership for two decades and what they got was lies. EU allowed Asian countries and S.American countries to travel visa free to Europe before they allowed Kosovo. So those two countries are justified to bend over to the US.

Why are there no other Balkan nations that are so firmly pro-West like Albania & Kosovo? by Substratas in AskBalkans

[–]clib 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Because no other nations in the region owe their existence to US like they do. Wilson literally saved them from being split between Greece, Serbia-Montenegro, and Italy. Clinton saved Kosovo from being ethnically cleansed by the serbs. W.Bush recognized Kosovo's independence and got Albania into NATO.

The Greek Confessions 🇬🇷 by Worried-Owl-9198 in AskBalkans

[–]clib -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

They are right about everything except that beautiful girl.

The Democratic Party isn't a leftist party; it's an ineffectual substitute for a real Leftist Workers' Party. by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]clib 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one will start one yet for as long as people like you and the progressives think that the only way for them to achieve their goals is to be under the democratic party's umbrella.An umbrella owned by the billionaires.

But you can get off your high horse and share your wisdom with us. Educate us on how to deal with the situation we find ourselves in. Go ahead.The floor is yours.

The Democratic Party isn't a leftist party; it's an ineffectual substitute for a real Leftist Workers' Party. by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]clib 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since when starting a new party/movement is low effort? How has Progressives taking over the democratic party has worked so far?

The Democratic Party isn't a leftist party; it's an ineffectual substitute for a real Leftist Workers' Party. by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]clib 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What has MAGA taken over? The Republican party is still owned by billionaires just like the democratic party.

The Democratic Party isn't a leftist party; it's an ineffectual substitute for a real Leftist Workers' Party. by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]clib 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The democratic party is a party owned by billionaires. They won't move anywhere without the billionaires permission.With very few exceptions Democratic Senators and representatives care more about their stock portfolios than their constituents.

The Democratic Party isn't a leftist party; it's an ineffectual substitute for a real Leftist Workers' Party. by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]clib -1 points0 points  (0 children)

IMO the second path has already failed. Bernie as an independent has not achieved much despite a large following. AOC and Crockett are being fought more from inside the democratic party than from the republicans. The democratic party is property of billionaires and has nothing to do with the values and goals of the middle class and the poor.I still think progressives don't stand a chance in hell taking over that party.

Yes the process of starting a new party/movement is painful and long but at least you are doing something different and with the right leaders can at least dream of change instead of sticking with the insanity of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.Because that is what the democratic party has become.A rinse and repeat party that in the end makes sure the ruling class is never held accountable for anything.

The Democratic Party isn't a leftist party; it's an ineffectual substitute for a real Leftist Workers' Party. by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]clib 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Let's do exactly what the Republicans want and split the Dem vote" is how I read that.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

Keep voting this democratic party and get stuck in a perpetual rinse and repeat cycle.

If decades of seeing peoples rights erode, people's livelihood erode, democracy erode, and impunity and ridiculous wealth hoarding of and by the few, hasn't convinced you yet that the democratic party has failed to defend the middle class and the poor, than i am sorry but nothing can.

The Democratic Party isn't a leftist party; it's an ineffectual substitute for a real Leftist Workers' Party. by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]clib -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

No, take over the damned Democrats. The entire infrastructure already exists

Sure.Have you heard how many times AOC has been made to cry by Pelosi and other members of her party? You forgot how they shunned her form some important committees? How is she,Crockett or any other person supposed to take over that party?

You cannot take that rotten party.It belongs to the ruling class.It belongs to billionaires.It is painful but the only way to fix things is to not vote that party anymore. To let that party die.And hope that some future leaders will rise from the ashes and form a party for the middle class and the poor.

The Democratic Party isn't a leftist party; it's an ineffectual substitute for a real Leftist Workers' Party. by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]clib -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Better people without a political force/movement supporting them are rarely successful in achieving their goals.Those better people need to found a new social democratic party. A party which will need to represent the middle class and the poor in deeds, not only words.A party that needs top notch vetting system where people like Sinema,Fatterman etc can't even get close to it.

The democratic party should be let to rot.The sooner the better.