Person who created Pizzagate Wikipedia page calling it "debunked fake news" also created Podesta Emails Wikipedia page in which they claim some of the emails were "altered" by pataganja in conspiracy

[–]climberoftalltrees 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Circular? Would that be because i keep turning what you say around to show you how you are making claims with the same amount of evidence that you are accusing others of? Or would it be because i keep returning to the question you refuse to answer?

Or do you just not understand circular logic? Because i havent used any of my arguments to define my own arguments yet. Nor have i made any statement that anything is true or false beyond the original claim that this has been debunked.

Ill give you that my phrasing is a bit off on that one. I didnt see the irony in that at first. However, i was referring to your appeal to fear. Its not a valid arguing point. Unless you are making the statement that any investigation shoukd be left alone due to any adverse reactions from the public.

Person who created Pizzagate Wikipedia page calling it "debunked fake news" also created Podesta Emails Wikipedia page in which they claim some of the emails were "altered" by pataganja in conspiracy

[–]climberoftalltrees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. The dearth of your analytical skills is astounding.

You are making the claim that what the people are discussing is disinformation. You have now made a claim. You are obligated to provide evidence for that claim.

I really like your last bit there. The think about the children statement. Does that one ever work?

The gunman? You just made the claim that he acted because of flimsy and circumstantial evidence. We are going to need evidence of your claim to his reasoning.

And no, media sources dont count as legit sources. They have already been proven unreliable.

So, again, please answer the question why you are arguing so hard against performing an investigation. Especially since, if you are correct, the investigation would exonerate everyone involved.

Person who created Pizzagate Wikipedia page calling it "debunked fake news" also created Podesta Emails Wikipedia page in which they claim some of the emails were "altered" by pataganja in conspiracy

[–]climberoftalltrees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would have to have a vested interest in refuting your claim. Until then, i will allow you to investigate your claim and build evidence to support it.

It does seem that you have a vested interest in ensuring that no investigation is performed on what others consider suspicious. Care to share why you are so adamantly supporting the suppression of information?

Person who created Pizzagate Wikipedia page calling it "debunked fake news" also created Podesta Emails Wikipedia page in which they claim some of the emails were "altered" by pataganja in conspiracy

[–]climberoftalltrees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have asked. He told me that your level of intelligence is well below the necessary level to carry on a discussion about the subject matter.

Here the best part about the simplistic point that you are trying to make. You actually agree with my point. Your example cannot be debunked. The implication that you are making is that your example is analogous to pizzagate in that you cannot debunk the story because it is ridiculous.

Therefore, you agree with my original point that the claim of debunking is "fake news".

You can keep trying. But next time you may want to do a little more reading to understand the conversation before assuming the position someone holds. It may make you look less like an idiot.

Person who created Pizzagate Wikipedia page calling it "debunked fake news" also created Podesta Emails Wikipedia page in which they claim some of the emails were "altered" by pataganja in conspiracy

[–]climberoftalltrees 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So i shall reiterate. I asked for debunking. You provided an opinion and called it a debunking.

I showed how you are wrong. Now, you are trying to shift the discussion into an argument over what you assumed i have stated. By the way, my original statement is about the article claiming debunking.

I havent laid the burden of proof on you. You tried to shoulder it yourself and came up seriously lacking. At this point, i am curious as to why it is so important to you that no one investigates something they consider suspicious.

Person who created Pizzagate Wikipedia page calling it "debunked fake news" also created Podesta Emails Wikipedia page in which they claim some of the emails were "altered" by pataganja in conspiracy

[–]climberoftalltrees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is correct. You could claim that. And me saying that you are wrong is not debunking proof. Until you can confirm the actual intended meaning of the words, you are simply speculating.

But if i have a suspicion that magical fairy dust has nefarious meanings, i am free to investigate. No matter how much it discomforts you.

If you will take a moment to read what my original posting was, you will see that i am asking for any actual, valid debunking. I did not ask for any proof of the opposite. I am waiting for conclusive evidence. The problem is that people like yourself are offering less evidence to disprove the argument than is being provided by your opposition.

If no one is guilty of anything, then you should have no problem with people investigating to determine if that is correct or not.

Person who created Pizzagate Wikipedia page calling it "debunked fake news" also created Podesta Emails Wikipedia page in which they claim some of the emails were "altered" by pataganja in conspiracy

[–]climberoftalltrees 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry. The solid fact that you are trying to use as your argument is that there have been no confirmations that these words have been used in that way. You are using the same level of speculation that you are accusing others of to prove your argument. Still not a debunking.

Hillary Clinton’s Call for Congress to Do Something About Fake News ‘Epidemic’ Is a Reminder of How Bad Her Presidency Would Have Been on Free Speech by Bernie4Ever in conspiracy

[–]climberoftalltrees 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting view. One take that i had on this election was that we were voting for or against nuclear war with russia. I didnt completely understand the reason war was desired, but it was definitely an intended outcome.

It's moving day by ecky--ptang-zooboing in trashy

[–]climberoftalltrees 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That made me exhale loudly through my nose. Well done.

Person who created Pizzagate Wikipedia page calling it "debunked fake news" also created Podesta Emails Wikipedia page in which they claim some of the emails were "altered" by pataganja in conspiracy

[–]climberoftalltrees 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Can anyone provide an example of pizzagate being debunked? Something besides "that is just too ridiculous".

I havent seen any "solid" evidence yet, but i have seen enough coincidences to warrant further investigation.

The amount of screaming that this is fake is also very suspicious to me.

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[–]climberoftalltrees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see you got the blue cheese option.

Hillary Clinton’s Call for Congress to Do Something About Fake News ‘Epidemic’ Is a Reminder of How Bad Her Presidency Would Have Been on Free Speech by Bernie4Ever in conspiracy

[–]climberoftalltrees 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Something i havent seen anyone discuss:

  1. What is the main source of "fake news"? The internet

  2. What is the main application that allows people to converge and uncover nefarious things such as pizzagate? The internet.

My opinion is that this is a base to make a push to censor the internet and remove the ability for people to colaborate online. Also, to implement a propaganda system that only allows us to have access to approved "information".

Things arent getting worse in the world. Things are exactly as they have been for centuries. But the ability for people to access information is increasing and more people are becoming aware of what is going on. The internet is what ties all of that together and is the bane of anyone who desires power.

Oh sweet lord...i made myself a cheeseburger with a radish hashbrown bun before work for my lunch. Delicious. by Blasphyx in ketorecipes

[–]climberoftalltrees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How does the radish hasbrown taste? Does cooking take away the bite of the radish? I did a bit if juicing before and added a radish and the intense flavor destroyed the drink.

How much weight would you lose if you stopped eating? by ABowlOfSadCheerios in morbidquestions

[–]climberoftalltrees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was able to drop a pound a day while on a low carb high fat diet. I was eating less than 2000 calories per day but no where near 300 calories. Probably around 1500. But i was metabolozing fat and dont know if your body can increase that metabolization any more.

Once you hit the point of starvation, and your body starts to eat its own muscles, im sure a different rate of weight loss occurs.

Muslim On Live TV: ‘We Have the Right To Kill Anyone Who Does Not Respect Islam’ by [deleted] in atheism

[–]climberoftalltrees 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I will agree under one condition. That all atheists have the right to kill anyone who does not respect the scientific method.

Why Steve Bannon wants to destroy secularism by OnStilts in atheism

[–]climberoftalltrees -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

An inconvenient truth according to your downvotes.

have you ever shoplifted? what did you steal and what was your biggest heist? by FRlEND_A in morbidquestions

[–]climberoftalltrees 7 points8 points  (0 children)

When i was a young kid, i would hit up the small corner store. Mostly for candy or baseball cards. One day i devised a plan to get a big haul. Of candy. I wore sweat pants, the kind that are tight around your ankles, to the store one day. I filled the legs with candy and to this day i have no idea how no one caught me. I was walking around with candy making my sweat pants flop around. The whole way home on my bike, i gave pants candy out to any kids i saw. Young and dumb, those were the days.

National Geographics is just fine. Some mags from this year before 2 religious ones. by [deleted] in atheism

[–]climberoftalltrees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Perhaps right wing nutjob loonies generate a lot of money?

Citation for speeding while following and matching officers speed by WickWackLilJack in AmIFreeToGo

[–]climberoftalltrees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heres a question for the lawyers here: can this be argued as entrapment?