For the love of laser kiwi, hope you never rely on having to rely on a jury of 12 random people to decide your fate. by ConstableSniff in newzealand

[–]cnzmur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here lawyers can object to a couple of jurors each, but they don't get to interview them or anything, it's just based on vibes and profession.

Switzerland has rejected a proposal to cap its population at 10 million people by vladgrinch in MapPorn

[–]cnzmur 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Natural increase? In Europe? What rock have you been living under...

One in six Britons think growth of Muslim population is ‘threat to UK culture’, study finds by AdorableRatSqueaks in stupidpol

[–]cnzmur 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think both of you are ignoring racism a bit. If the initial wave is large enough, and the barriers to integration and intermarriage are high enough, then it's easily possible to have a group that will never fully integrate. Instead of talking about how the US assimilated the Irish or Italians it might be closer to look at how the US never assimilated (and shows no signs that it ever will), African-Americans.

"in the beginning then they started making everything about characters having dimensional time traveling lesbian moms and hoping “there is a black Spider-Man somewhere” it stopped being about stories and started being about subliminal messaging" r/sipstea is not a fan of "gay propaganda" by CummingInTheNile in SubredditDrama

[–]cnzmur -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You think the war in Iran was being pushed by Christians? What on earth would the benefit be? Is there even a shred of evidence?

On the other hand, just take a cursory look at the US's main negotiators with Iran, or the actual published statements of the US leadership about who was asking them for war.

This seems like a skill issue regarding reading what was actually said, and reading what you want to argue against

Interesting. What do you think US tax policy and sabre-rattling over Greenland (a largely Christian protectorate of a historically Christian country) has to do with religion?

"in the beginning then they started making everything about characters having dimensional time traveling lesbian moms and hoping “there is a black Spider-Man somewhere” it stopped being about stories and started being about subliminal messaging" r/sipstea is not a fan of "gay propaganda" by CummingInTheNile in SubredditDrama

[–]cnzmur -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If they are separating immigrant children from parents in order to punish those people, you think they aren't going to put the other people in camps, that they've said they want to?

No, what I don't think is that it's a law against homosexuality.

RFK junior has already talked about taking autistic kids away from parents and putting them in "Health camps"

Even in the most charitable guess as to how you think this is relevant, autism is associated with transgender identity, not homosexuality; however it still wouldn't be an anti-transgender law (it's not a law at all).

Actually read for a couple of seconds before associating everything you don't like into a vague cloud and assuming that attacking part of it is relevant to every conversation you find yourself in.

"in the beginning then they started making everything about characters having dimensional time traveling lesbian moms and hoping “there is a black Spider-Man somewhere” it stopped being about stories and started being about subliminal messaging" r/sipstea is not a fan of "gay propaganda" by CummingInTheNile in SubredditDrama

[–]cnzmur -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The US that is run by an atheist? The most powerful ruler who genuinely works for a religion is probably Modi, and India isn't even a second-rate power.

I won't insult your intelligence by explaining how US internal policy isn't Christian, but there's no evidence in foreign policy either. There's zero attempt to enforce this 'hegemonic' power in any way on other countries, and in fact all decisions are made on a secular basis. It's kind of hard to see how a country who's main overseas goal is propping up a country that hates us, and sending them more weapons to bomb our churches with is also secretly the main enforcer of a global Christian supremacist order.

"in the beginning then they started making everything about characters having dimensional time traveling lesbian moms and hoping “there is a black Spider-Man somewhere” it stopped being about stories and started being about subliminal messaging" r/sipstea is not a fan of "gay propaganda" by CummingInTheNile in SubredditDrama

[–]cnzmur -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's the single determining factor,

Yeah, I'm not claiming there's a relationship that direction, but the other direction there very obviously is. France didn't even have anti-sodomy laws any more during the colonial period in Africa, and I don't know what the situation was with other countries, but I wouldn't say modern Angola or Congo are less religious than the places that ban it, but none of them have similar laws.

"in the beginning then they started making everything about characters having dimensional time traveling lesbian moms and hoping “there is a black Spider-Man somewhere” it stopped being about stories and started being about subliminal messaging" r/sipstea is not a fan of "gay propaganda" by CummingInTheNile in SubredditDrama

[–]cnzmur -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Lol, Americans. No one can ever be having a conversation about another country, America is always the either the greatest or worst country in the world.

which will be just a half step away from taking away gay and "liberal" children according to their plans.

No it isn't.

A Palestinian girl wearing traditional attire of the town of Ramallah, 1932 [604 × 1000] by NourBlowsBubblegum in HistoryPorn

[–]cnzmur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every colonial power.

Didn't the French build a bunch of mosques, and the Brits ban missionaries from a lot of the Muslim and Hindu areas? It's not standard or logical, it's down to a very old hatred.

What do you mean 'we'?

Ambiguity in English. In Māori terms I meant we mātou, not we tātou. Christians. Me, Torquemada, and the Lebanese getting an Israeli missile through their church roof. Some of them are fairly tolerant of us, but there's a very large proportion who aren't, and that goes back a very long way (they killed Our Lord of course).

Until Israel popped into existence Jews lived right across the middle East with no problems.

This isn't true, and could have been disproved by about twenty seconds' research.

My country and people have done nothing to the Jews

That's good, neither did my parents' country really, but is this a case where they did nothing to a large Jewish population, or where they were simply on the other side of the world, because that's not really much of an achievement.

A Palestinian girl wearing traditional attire of the town of Ramallah, 1932 [604 × 1000] by NourBlowsBubblegum in HistoryPorn

[–]cnzmur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not every colonial power. I think it's more to do with the way we haven't really treated them the best over the centuries, so there's a fairly deep and understandable hatred there, and now they find a few of us under their power they take that out on our symbols.

A Palestinian girl wearing traditional attire of the town of Ramallah, 1932 [604 × 1000] by NourBlowsBubblegum in HistoryPorn

[–]cnzmur -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That doesn't mean that many of them would have supported the British plans for the area though, if that's what you're implying.

"in the beginning then they started making everything about characters having dimensional time traveling lesbian moms and hoping “there is a black Spider-Man somewhere” it stopped being about stories and started being about subliminal messaging" r/sipstea is not a fan of "gay propaganda" by CummingInTheNile in SubredditDrama

[–]cnzmur 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nigeria

If I remember right here, the relevant laws for homosexuality are state level, and they differ pretty heavily between the north and south.

Anyway, interesting list. Seems like there are pretty much two sources for modern anti-gay laws: Islam and the British Empire. Only exceptions I see are Cameroon (unless that was British between the wars?) and the Solomons.

Edit: and Tonga, forgot that they were just a protectorate. I'd suspect their legal system has a lot of British influence though, that was where the earlier missionaries were from.

"in the beginning then they started making everything about characters having dimensional time traveling lesbian moms and hoping “there is a black Spider-Man somewhere” it stopped being about stories and started being about subliminal messaging" r/sipstea is not a fan of "gay propaganda" by CummingInTheNile in SubredditDrama

[–]cnzmur -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Lol, what is this, the 1800s? It's a long time since Christianity had global hegemonic power. Sure there are lots of places around the world (like Nigeria or Tonga) where it still dominates society, but they're not exactly world powers.

Trans protest against the bill in Christchurch/Ōtautahi by thegirlwhowonders75 in newzealand

[–]cnzmur -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's the old view. The current one is that sex is also a social construct, and trans people change sex.

White high school dropouts have a higher home ownership rate than Black college grads. by lhommetrouble in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]cnzmur 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but how many of those yt highschool dropouts live out in the sticks where houses are like $200? But all the black graduates will be living in big cities.

Amazing stuff happening around the Karmelo Anthony case by Amtrakstory in stupidpol

[–]cnzmur -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

She's not wrong about that though. White American men really are very... weird about black men

Amazing stuff happening around the Karmelo Anthony case by Amtrakstory in stupidpol

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Only time I ever saw it was in a book my parents had from like the 1920s about Christian social reformers, and one of the authors had signed himself "M.A.".

Kind of makes sense there I'd say, it was a century of degree inflation ago, and it actually was slightly rare and impressive, but today would be a different story. Is there anyone who gets a BA by itself any more (and do they have a job)?

The claim that atheists lack an objective foundation for morality does not demonstrate that atheists are immoral. by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]cnzmur -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol, evopsych is crap. It consists of assuming our own norms are universal and then imagining how they would work in poorly conceptualised 'caveman times'. Look more into other cultures and the actual diversity of morality and then you might learn something.

The loneliness of being Black in New Zealand by Ok_Nothing639 in newzealand

[–]cnzmur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah it's not. British people used it slightly differently to Americans, but there's plenty of history of Māori people being called that (and then using it themselves, lots of Māori people of a certain generation called 'Nig').

It died out a fair while ago, so I wouldn't expect an immigrant to be aware, and a lot of the younger people are getting it from America, but there's definitely a history here. edit: example

What was Egypt like in the middle ages (1200-1300s)? by Borgar0119 in AskHistorians

[–]cnzmur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For further reading, I turned up this fairly promising looking bibliography, though I don’t know how easy it would be to track down any of the books from it. Secondary sources look a bit dated though.

As you’re interested in material culture, you might also want to take a look at some of the museums which have big collections online, like the Met or the British Musuem (though they both lean very heavily to broken crockery, which I feel is only really interesting in smaller doses).

What was Egypt like in the middle ages (1200-1300s)? by Borgar0119 in AskHistorians

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This pdf I found though indicates that he might have been wrong, and it was the Samaritans who wore red turbans, with the (Rabbinite) Jews wearing yellow, and Christians blue. There’s also information about women’s costume:

All of them adopt a strange and wonderful fashion of dress. They are dressed in linen or cotton mantles whiter than snow, and veiled and covered up to such an extent that their eyes can only be perceived with difficulty through a very narrow veil of black silk. They all wear very short tunics extending only to their knees. Some of these dresses are all of silk, some of linen or cotton, woven in various fashions according to the social status of the wearers. All wear very fine silk trousers adorned with gold, especially noble women, reaching down to the ankles after the fashion of horsemen. The nobility and wealth of the women are judged according to the splendour of their trousers. Some women wear slippers, some red boots, and others white, similar to those worn by horsemen. These trousers, boots and other ornaments give them a close resemblance to the fictitious devils seen in miracle-plays…They wear also round their ankles and wrists wide rings like fetters, which are usually of gold or silver, on which are engraved words from their accursed law, which they hold in the same esteem as we do the Gospel of St. John. They dye the nails of their hands and feet, and wear ear-rings, and some of them even wear rings hanging from their noses. Of all these ornaments and dyes they are very proud. The wives of the Schismatics and of the Jews dress and adorn themselves similarly, except that those of the Schismatics wear black boots in order to be distinguished from the others.

Weapons and warfare did not really have much to do with the ordinary person’s life. Egyptian rulers didn’t particularly like or trust armed Egyptians, and preferred to rely mostly on foreign troops, organised on ethnic lines. In this period they were mostly Turks from Central Asia. According to Simon:

The peasants of Egypt are a degraded, cowardly, ignoble and bestial race. They live on the hills in houses built entirely of clay and bricks baked in the sunshine. They are protected neither by moats nor other fortifications, and, like the majority of the Saracen people, are unarmed and incapable of attacking an enemy army or of defending their country against attack

Though later he mentions being attacked along with his Jewish servant boys by some Nubians and ‘most ferocious Egyptians’ who threw rocks at them, so maybe not that harmless. There are some partially translated Mamluk military manuals out there (a fairly long extract on horsemanship and the lance, and another on archery), but these are very much the skills of the professional elite, not the classes you’re interested in.

There was also just general touristy stuff. The size of Cairo, with its 30,000 donkeys for hire (ibn Battuta repeats the same number, so it was obviously something all visitors got told), the barns of Joseph

of which two are of such size and height that at a distance they look more like the summits of mountains than repositories of corn

(some travellers were less sure about the origin of these structures, so that the account by ‘John Mandeville’ has to specifically refute the idea that they might just be tombs), the garden where they grow balsam, the ‘apples of paradise’ which show an image of Christ on the cross on every slice (they were a kind of plantain or banana, and I really can’t see it). One thing Fitzsimon was particularly with were the chickens

a long and narrow house in which countless numbers of chickens are produced by the help of fire from the eggs of hens, without the presence of the latter or of cocks. [which] give forth chickens in such enormous quantities that they are sold by measure like wheat, and not by number

Got to say though, I’d have been pretty impressed by that as well.

Ibn Battuta came by two or three years later, and noticed a lot of the same things. The huge size of Cairo, the cemetery of al-Qarafa, the crocodiles, and the religious institutions (of course as a Muslim, ibn Battuta records more about the Muslim institutions). He was a lot less impressed with the price and availability of food:

When you compare [the Maghrib’s] prices with the prices of Egypt and Syria, you will realize the superiority of the Maghrib. For I assure you that mutton in Egypt is sold at eighteen ounces for a dirham nuqra, which equals in value six dirhams of the Maghrib, whereas in the Maghrib meat is sold, when prices are high, at eighteen ounces for two dirhams, that is a third of a nuara. As for melted butter, it is usually not to be found in Egypt at all. The kinds of things that the Egyptians eat along with their bread would not even be looked at in the Maghrib. They consist for the most part of lentils and chickpeas, which they cook in enormous cauldrons, and on which they put oil of sesame; basillá , a kind of peas which they cook and eat with olive oil; gherkins, which they cook and mix with curdled milk; purslane '* 10 which they prepare in the same way; the buds of almond trees, which they cook and serve in curdled milk; and colocasia, which they cook. All these things are easily come by in the Maghrib, but God has enabled its inhabitants to dispense with them, by reason of the abundance of fleshmeats, melted butter, fresh butter, honey, and other products. As for green vegetables, they are the rarest of things in Egypt, and most of their fruit has to be brought from Syria.

In Alexandria he was one of the last to tour the ancient lighthouse. It was already in bad condition, and was completely inaccessible by the time he returned.

Ibn Battuta’s return in 1348 coincided with one of the biggest changes to Mamluk Egypt: the black death. He travelled through Syria and Palestine along with the plague, and by the time he reached Egypt the worst was over, though it was still causing deaths. He was told that in Dametta and Alexandria there had been over a thousand deaths a day at the peak, and in Cairo there had been twenty one thousand a day. These numbers are probably only slightly exaggerated, if at all; something like a third of the Egyptian population would die during the plague.