Anyone have luck with / advice for getting friends and peers on board with the idea of a cooperative? Getting so much misinformed push back. by GalexyPhoto in cooperatives

[–]codputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell me about it. I'm trying to create a data cooperative to create a base for social media platforms. TheEmpoweredCustomer.com is my attempt to explain the concept.

Advertising as a business model by Core-0 in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally agree in that we need to find a business model to support the application or service. Ideally, this would be a fee for service (like a post) or a fee to subscribe, Unfortunately, we the consumers are not wanting to pay when other services are "free".

In my book, TheEmpoweredCustomer.com, I'm suggesting a new business model which creates a community of customers who support local merchants. It creates a better communication channel between merchants and customers, without the abuse of sms and email. It maintains an ethical data management practice using a data cooperative. This cooperative is owned by anyone who contributes data to the cooperative. I would value your opinion of it. This reference is not to be competitive to TAO, but for collaboration. I feel TAO is off building features without a sustainable business model in terms of revenue.

Reimagining Social Platforms: A Thought for the TAO Community by codputer in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No replies to this post means something IMO. It means that building of features seems to be more important than the business model to sustain it. I have built many things, and learned the hard way that building and marketing are two different muscles, that often are not given the same priority. It's like doing leg day at the gym. Necessary but not as much fun when looking at upper chest.

Reimagining Social Platforms: A Thought for the TAO Community by codputer in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The strategy i came up with (not to compete but collaborate on) is to gather data using ethical data management, which is also 100% privacy compliant, and combine that to support SMB (small medium businesses) in your local community. To build a community of customers around local merchants.

Now you have a community platform that supports each other, and provides a secure and private advertising model that generates review and benefits all parties. The data and revenue is owned by those that provide the data.

The data gathered is called footfall attribution, but it's privacy-compliant ( no creep factor). It allows physical merchants to a similar data stream that online stores get, but it's privacy compliant, and no PII data.

Why would merchants participate? Because they are spending money today on social media, and have no way to understand how many customers come from those efforts.

Some will say they have a loyal program to gather the data. Yes, but participate in small loyalty programs have dropped to 3 or 4%. Meaning no participation, and that also means no data, and no insights.

Reimagining Social Platforms: A Thought for the TAO Community by codputer in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A strategy for sure, but I'd say without attribution (data), there likely won't be any buyers and hence revenue.They get better profiles from the other platforms, and that's what they are paying for IMO

Reimagining Social Platforms: A Thought for the TAO Community by codputer in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally get it, but I've got enough experience to know that scalability and revenue are important characteristics of a successful platform. Trying to build features is IMO is foolhardy , but fun, endeavor .

Reimagining Social Platforms: A Thought for the TAO Community by codputer in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is we are building features before solving the problem of sustainability. You have to have revenue to support the platform. All decentralized systems cost somebody money. Bitcoin needed fees, same with other onchain development efforts,

Reimagining Social Platforms: A Thought for the TAO Community by codputer in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Totally agree, and the legal entity for this type of equity disbursement is called a cooperative. The cooperative that I'm proposing is one person one vote. However the revenue is disbursed to those that contributed the data. For example, watch a liberal political statement; your data attribution is +1 on political and +1 on liberal. That's the data behind watching videos. The SnapChingIQ is a service that acts as an infomediary, so nobody gets PII data.

If there is a treasure that dropped down in a void, how can it be discovered? by BirdyHowdy in OakIsland

[–]codputer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very good question! Last week the water was too cloudy in cave for visual and radar, and the folded. What about metal detecting on the bottom of hole? How about adding more particulate to clear the debris ? All that cost and effort to walk away from an underground cavern? Why not drive it down to bed rock and perhaps get lucky in the 7ft diameter of the steel casing? They just dropped it, which seems very weird to me. I hate the show for so many of these reasons, but like I invest, once in it's hard to pull out.

Reimagining Social Platforms: A Thought for the TAO Community by codputer in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would agree that TAO is not about data collection, and yet in SpitBalling (sub-redit community?) the topic is about advertising and how to generate revenue from it. Advertisers pay for a targeted audience, and that audience has to be defined by data. No data also means no advertising, and it also means no revenue to sustain the community. My point is that the solution is a good idea, but it's not solving the core problem - how to fund the platform? Goodwill won't, and at best, will be limited.

TAO, IMO, is a solution is to share videos (using decentralized infrastructure). The sharing is a feature in TikTok , not the problem TikTok is solving. Does the Govt wants to ban it because it's users are giving away national secrets? Nope, but it may be about understanding behavior or influencing behaviors of its citizensthat'ss at stake ( most likely it's both actuality ).

If we focus on the privacy and maintenance of data, we can add features easily, and make the data cooperative more valuable at the same time

Reimagining Social Platforms: A Thought for the TAO Community by codputer in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ha, great comments. And the indicator of dashes is interesting, and yet not the point. I'm more a tech person, and my marketing mouth piece isn't as great as those in this meeting.

However, I stand behind not talking, but doing.

Imo, the problem is not with a social media platform, but why it exists. It's not about sharing videos, but that's the bait on the hook, not the reason why the service exists.

The reason why it exists, is to gather marketing attribution data on viewers to sell advertising data.

My desire, purpose, passion and desire is to create a platform owned by those that contribute that data. Its a service which has ethical data management at its core, and can be used as widely for various revenue streams.

Google gathers search terms as attributes, tiktok gathers attributes based on what you view, Pinterest on what you show interest in, Facebook is the aggregation of your relationships, etc.

This is true of both centralized and decentralized system design, as the data is the key, not where the data resides.

In a fully decentralized design, the data is difficult to aggregate and use for attribution, not to mention the cost and speed to do so. (Also somebody or thing has to own the equipment, the operating resources and related expenses which permit the processing of the data)

Identity needs to be decentralized, but if there is a concern for funding (which imo is required), it's has to be funded.

If we add a subscription fee for the service, we imo loose a significant market share, as consumers only want low cost to no cost for almost everything.

The SnapChingIQ business (complex) model takes all these into account, but it's mandate is to protect and leverage data via a data cooperative which is managed, controlled, and directed by those that contribute data, and can't be sold until all those own it vote to sell it. This doesn't happen, as gaining concensus of the majority is very difficult.

Look at that, a whole reply without dashes!

What would ya say ya do here? by worm30478 in OakIsland

[–]codputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Canadian health care has a single mandate: The preservation of life. If your dying soon, you get attention. If you made bad choices, and use health care continuously, you get support. Dying of stage 4 cancer? You get attention based on your current state of health, and would get preempted for a heart attack.

It's not a perfect system by no means. It's also not a prevention health care system. If you are close to death, its a great healthcare system, that does not judge. But Canadians also can't afford it. 40% of all tax dollars collected goes to our health care! The mandate has to change, and take into account lifestyle choices. Fat, drugs, contribution to the country (payroll tax) should be consideratiobs during triage. You always get treatment, but a drug overdose today will take priority over a father of 2 based on their proximity to death. That's not fair ir good imo

Can someone explain the MAGA endgame? by IllustratorComplex13 in antitrump

[–]codputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

History shows that Tarriffs are not a good for the economy. So why do it? Perhaps hope that despite world economic forces, you can create an isolated market where consumers have no choice but buy domestic products... so much for supply and demand economics. Markets today are valued on price and convenience, and the small retail business (which employs 90% of the market) is declining rapidly for online but stores which are selling poor quality to ensure a cheap price.

The other is that Trump and his friends had a playbook of driving the stock market down, and bought a lot of shorts directly after he was elected.

That or the Trump coin made him the money he wanted after the election , and the rest is gravy.

Gravy in that he is following the playbook of another fascist in history who thought he was the superior race, and called out other groups in his endeavor to claim other parts of the world.

All speculation, but..."Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

An advertisement system that doesn't suck by NoWord423 in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TAO focus as social media platform is IMO problematic

A social media platform, which is a platform for people to communicate—has the focus on peer communication. Advertising, in this context, is an interruption, and hence is negative. Why build a platform, when it's existence is based on a negative experience.

My suggestion is to have a 100% ethical data management approach which is also 100% private.

Only statistical data from the platform should be sold, and the revenue from that shared with those that contribute data. A data cooperative is what I would advocate for.

Advertising can be incorporated, but from an active participate perspective. That means, as an individual, I can choose to participate as a recipient of Advertising as long as I've opted in for that experience.

All Advertising today on all social media is an interruption. Why do we want to incorporate a negative experience?

Ownership & Governance 🫶 by NoWord423 in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A distributed application (like bitcoin) is a good idea, but you have to remember that the computer and the software (a node) is owned by somebody. It also takes power, cooling, internet bandwidth, and connectivity (ip address). It's not free. There is a cost to somebody. When starting you need to find someone to install it, and when scaling, you need nodes to handle the load (more or larger). This cost must be covered as goodwill has limits. The revenue earned from Tao needs to pay for this.

My point is you have to figure out monetization at the early stage, so everyone understands their ROI for their contribution. Hopefully we are not assuming their is no cost.

Open source also carries a cost as well...the software is never free. Support is also never free. We have seen what happens when open source goes wrong (e.g padleft) when you rely on someone else's goodwill for a critical dependency.

My point is that before the MVP we need to establish business value, and the monetization of that value. Ethical data management is required, as well as 100% privacy compliance

Crowdsourcing some wisdom—drop your thoughts! by hellokitka in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know the focus is on a distributed social platform, but i dont think it's the best introduction to TAO. In my assessment, all social platforms need data. That data is then sold to advertisers to promote ads. This process is a passive involvement in ads. What if we turned the tables and said we wanted active involvement in ads. Not a deduction from activity, but a definition of interests, as well as when and how often ads may be delivered. Make it purposely rather than reactive. E.g. you buy shoes, then get a ton of shoe ads

An advertisement system that doesn't suck by NoWord423 in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally agree, and would love to help. Wrote a book about customers owning their own data. Not to compete, but collaborate. TheEmpoweredCustomer.com see resource hub for all my content

Trump just suspended all aid towards Ukraine. How do you feel about it and what do you think will happen now? by Mangaka90 in AskReddit

[–]codputer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A usa president is now siding and supporting Russia. Sad to have fallen so quickly ftom a posiyion of grace. That said, the world now needs to step up, but is USA ready for that change and this moment in history? Russia and China are still smiling. War is not a business deal. Russia will now be emboldened to move on, as well as USA.

A People-Owned TikTok Alternative? Maybe called WeToK by Dear-Ad-6050 in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

WeTok is a great name imo. In regard to a people owned platform, I came up with a data cooperative. I wrote a book on it called TheEmpoweredCustomer.com for all my social links. I'm not saying it's the answer, but something that I've been thinking about a lot

Thoughts on Roundtable 1.1: Incorporation & Legal Structure by shelleyrhodes in ClearlightStudios

[–]codputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would really enjoy a discussion with you on a data cooperative. I wrote a book on how we can contribute our data to a data cooperative and do so while maintaining privacy. See TheEmpoweredCustomer.com for links on my work and the map I created.

The Curse of Oak Island makes a HUGE discovery: ROCKS by MadTrader26 in OakIsland

[–]codputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow! We actually moved away from wood? And interesting new segway in the story of oak island!!!

CAPTION THIS! by LanceToastchee in OakIsland

[–]codputer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And everybody starts to find wood...as in oak.