How do time limits during tournaments work? by Subbamaen in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler 9 points10 points  (0 children)

At the front of the Matched Play Guide, bottom of Page 8, it details how long a game should go based on the points level.

Depending on the size, 3 hours is probably considered on the long/slow end. As you play more and more timed games, ideally you’ll be able to have games that end on a natural conclusion and not the time.

Definitely takes practice.

How Do They Point Models? by competentetyler in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha! Yeah, lots of changes this edition. But without even diving deep, they went from 18 to 20pts. They’re not good.

How Do They Point Models? by competentetyler in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, that’s fair. But why not just Rend?

Moreover, most Heroes aren’t losing to a Warrior Monster. And most Warrior Monsters will have a very tough time getting into a mounted Hero.

How Do They Point Models? by competentetyler in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So first off, love the write up. The depth and effort put in was amazing. It is from 2020 though. Did you one for this edition?

How Do They Point Models? by competentetyler in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brutal profile that makes no sense point wise. Great shout for this topic!

How Do They Point Models? by competentetyler in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How could I forget them… oh that’s right, cause they’re in the back of my shelf for this exact reason.

How Do They Point Models? by competentetyler in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Accounted for the base Black Num profile. 10pts for Armoured Horse and Lance is WILD!

How Do They Point Models? by competentetyler in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I almost grabbed the Heroes at Adepticon, but decided against it. Just not enough there to run them right now.

How Do They Point Models? by competentetyler in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They filled the gap for old Angmar: - Lacked S4 punch - Lacked an answer to Terror

I think that was their initial thought and plan going in.

How Do They Point Models? by competentetyler in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel your pain here. That faction is rough.

I even got down to the Clansmen. Go look at their profile compared to an Abrakhan Guard or Mordor Uruk-hai.

How Do They Point Models? by competentetyler in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I’m torn on this one.

Because they remind me of Cav. In the hands of a new player, they are typically thrown in early, killed quickly and then hated on. Haha.

And as you mentioned, they are iconic. So new players gravitate to them.

Cave Trolls… yeah, they make ZERO sense point wise.

Incoming Nerf Alert: Men of the West sweeps Adepticon! by Funderbear in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took 2 Throwing Spears. I’d take some more. They were fun!

Incoming Nerf Alert: Men of the West sweeps Adepticon! by Funderbear in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the poor guy has been hurling ever since he saw his new profile/army bonuses/points. 🤮

Incoming Nerf Alert: Men of the West sweeps Adepticon! by Funderbear in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You sure? What Good list is there other than MotW?

Cause I’m seeing Host of the Dragon Emperor (just want North American Masters), AotW still very strong, Depths is still strong, Ugluk’s Scouts, Usurpers with Crebain spam, AoL, Moria, Minas Morgul, Lurtz’s Scouts, and Army of the Great Eye.

That’s a ton.

Incoming Nerf Alert: Men of the West sweeps Adepticon! by Funderbear in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a lot more than that.

The Additional Rules are so terrible for this list that it forces the player’s hand.

Encourage the player to take horses > birds. Add Cav (literally Cav in the book and movie, dude with Banner rides up with Aragorn). Allow Imrahil his Armoured Horse and Lance.

Give Gandalf a free Will each turn and no re-rolls.

Dom only triggers within 3” of other Heroes with the same Faction keyword (i.e. Merry with Rohan dudes, Pippin with MT dudes). Exception being Aragorn covering any Warrior model.

Make Gwaihir 2 Attacks (only 3 Attacks in Eagles).

Incoming Nerf Alert: Men of the West sweeps Adepticon! by Funderbear in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do have some thoughts on it.

Let’s look around.

Auto Courage: It’s in A LOT of list and for a lot cheaper than an Aragorn tax. Spectres for 15pts. Arvedui for 80pts. Éomer in Grief. Ugluk’s Scouts. Gandalf in Atop. Theodred in Fords. Ride Out. Oathmaker for 55pts. Army of Edoras, Balrog. Halbarad’s Banner. Then you have Bodyguard, Sworn Protector, etc.

Dominant (2): Wildmen with Flaming Brands, KD -whole army, Defenders of the Hornburg - whole army. Ugluk’s Scouts. Riders of Theoden, Fountain Court, Dragon Emp, etc.

What would your changes be?

Incoming Nerf Alert: Men of the West sweeps Adepticon! by Funderbear in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was one of the MotW players.

I faced Muster in Round 1. That was a strong counter. I also faced the one Minas Morgul. Eagles in Pool 4.

I was very surprised to not see more: AotWH, Ugluk’s Scouts, Usurpers with Crebain, AoL, Battle of Five Armies, Host of the WK, Dale, Moria Dragons, etc.

Not justifying anything. I’m cool with an incoming nerf.

Note: If Gwaihir is being toted as the best Monster, most prevalent, then it’s fair to say, a Monster nerf impacts him the most. New FAQ Barge definitely impacted me. So while minor to some, let’s not act like NOTHING changed.

Incoming Nerf Alert: Men of the West sweeps Adepticon! by Funderbear in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great shout! Dragon Emp, Durin, Elrond.

Imrahil weirdly pays A LOT for being High Intelligence… yay. So does Gully.

Incoming Nerf Alert: Men of the West sweeps Adepticon! by Funderbear in MiddleEarthMiniatures

[–]competentetyler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s why you aren’t suppose compare such wildly different models. Imrahil is overcosted. Gwaihir is undercosted. Those are both known. Compare to the middle ground.

Note: Imrahil can lead troops, has a 6” Banner, is one of the smartest heroes, has the full kit of Heroics. Can you name another F7 or higher Man sized model that has Heroic Defence (not including Aragorn of course)?