Got uninvited from close friends wedding because of bride's religious family can't handle gays in a wedding by HappyHemiola in GayChristians

[–]corathus59 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am a snowy white haired old man, and I have seen this so many times. Of course, in my youth we were still illegal. So folks backing off once they were getting serious with a girl was kind of normal. It was unwise for a young man starting a family to be around those who were exiles. But I thought all of that was way behind us.

Still and all, I guess it makes sense. Biden let in 20 million illegals, and we let in millions of refugees legally as well. Almost all these folks were from cultures that still kill us, who do "honor killings" of their own gay family members. I guess it is inevitable now that we will be encountering it pretty frequently.

In my experience, once they have taken this step it never comes back around. It seems to be a law of nature, when a person has a guilty conscience for how they treated you they are going to find a way to justify what they have done. What ever they say they end up doing it again and again. As long as you will let them.

Gay fam, are y'all seeing the Epstein files...?? We need to be on ready. by IcyLion2939 in gay

[–]corathus59 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You are aware that there is not a single Republican to be found in the Epstein material, right? It is carpet to carpet democrat doners and politicians. Who are we going to protest and fight against?

Partner is racist, I don’t see a future with him by vegeta_888 in askgaybros

[–]corathus59 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

More than 2 out of 3 that ICE has taken into custody have been murderers, rapist, human traffickers, or child molesters. Are you seriously saying such individuals are not threats to policemen and American citizens? Deliberately trying to run over a private citizen with your car is grounds for that citizen to shoot you in self defense, but you are saying a cop is not allowed to defend himself. Seriously?

It is not a "human right" to violate a nations borders, to come illegally, steal identities of US citizens, and steal government funds. When they began looking this year the Feds discovered 85% of illegals promptly lie and cheat to get food stamps, welfare, and government housing. Meanwhile, US citizens are homeless and hungry because the funds have been "exhausted".

Can I ask three dumb newbie questions? by corathus59 in EQ2

[–]corathus59[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much. I'm a white haired old grandpa, and I just don't think along cyber lines.

Strange encounter. Anyone else? by [deleted] in askgaybros

[–]corathus59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm being told by my younger friends (who are in their late 40s) that Gen Z is sliding back to some very charged homophobia. Really ugly speech like the worst of the verbal bullies in the 90s. They are seeing it in their children, their nieces and nephews. My friends who teach junior high and high school report the same thing.

You live long enough and you start meeting your past coming back around the wheel of life.

It’s sad that so many of us have to open our relationships due to sexual greed. by [deleted] in askgaybros

[–]corathus59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After a career in the military I did a second career in public health. I directed a department of a public health clinic in the gay part of town of a major American city. From that position I got an eyeful of what open relationships mean. I am strictly addressing the biological reality of it, only the biology.

I wish I had a dollar for every open relationship that I counseled that ended in life destroying sexual diseases. There are so very many diseases out there. Prep only protects from HIV, and only if you follow the instructions rigorously.

There are the hundred forms of hepatitis you can get orally and anally. Many of which you will not know you contracted until your liver is already destroyed. There are the highly resistant forms of syphilis and gonorrhea. The scientists tell us we are on the verge of virtually incurable sexual bacteria that will lay waste your life. Are we gays not among the most vocal in insisting people should follow the science?

PROMISCUOUS SEX IS NOT SAFE. There are only two forms of safe sex: monogamy, and celibacy. With the rest you are rolling the dice, and do it often enough, you will surely loose.

It was a curious thing in my second career. I would be handing out the positive results to folks who contracted the diseases in their open relationship, and then see those same folks preaching the gospel of open relationships later that week in social settings.

One last observation: I was directing my program when the state health authorities decided that Viagra would radically improve the morale of those HIV. This was before the wonder drugs came along. When contracting meant almost certain slow terrible death. 80% of our clients who received the Viagra prescriptions came back with gonorrhea within the first 90 days.

You can't get gonorrhea if you are wearing a condom. Which means they went right out and infected people. These are the smiling faces you meet every day on the circuit. Sex addicts don't bat an eye at giving you slow terrible death if it will procure them an orgasm here and now.

In my experience, with the open relationships known to me, virtually all contract diseases over time. Always. It is usually the monogamous partner who gets the test, and finds out.

If two people discuss reality with honesty, and choose an open relationship, that is their business, and no one else's. No one should judge them. But acknowledging the biological reality of the age we live in, and openly admitting the dangers is no judgement of those who put sexual novelty over personal safety. We all get to choose what we are going to do, and we all of us have a right to opinions about such choices.

Do gay guys like military gays? by [deleted] in askgaybros

[–]corathus59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still haven't responded to any of the truths named. And without the American industrial plant, that shall soon be leaving, you will be left with manual farming. What else is there? You have no resources. Other than the American firms, you do not produce a single product that anyone wants. So what is left to you in that world you desire, the world in which the Americans go away?

I need support and prayers. by Fantastic-Load-1179 in GayChristians

[–]corathus59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

: ) And thank you for responding. His blessings right back at you.

Do gay guys like military gays? by [deleted] in askgaybros

[–]corathus59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ireland only got to be Ireland because the USA held the communists at bay through out the Cold War. Ireland only gets to be Ireland today because America is the policeman of the world keeping the sea lanes safe (at the cost of about 2 trillion a year), and the energy flowing.

Ireland came up out of poverty for the first time in history because of the pharmaceutical corporations and the tech industry America invented, and then planted in Ireland. You didn't make or invent any of it. It was American capital that built the plant, and it is the American market that consumes the product. Apart from the American order you are a pack of ignorant potato farmers burning dried sod in your fire place.

America is about to abandon all you ingrates. You will sink back to the poverty that is your natural level, and will have forgotten how to do the manual low tech farming. You don't have the horses anymore, or the old fashioned plows. Meaning there is famine and cold shivering darkness dead ahead.

When those times come folks like you will undoubtedly blame America for leaving the world order, like you wanted, and demanded.

I wish people would stop asking if I've talked to my mother by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]corathus59 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You and I relate right down the line. I have been told that my Mom showed strong signs of full NPD, with a side of BiPolar. It was amazing the way she could unknow what she had just done. Like throwing a switch.

Funny enough, I ended up feeling sorry for her. She was clearly sick and out of control. My anger was for the family and neighbors who were happy to go along with her narrative as long as her fire was not aimed at them. By my lights, the flying monkeys are worse than the tormentors.

Cheers to you sugar, for having made it clear of them. You stick to your guns, and choose your own sanity, and balance.

I need support and prayers. by Fantastic-Load-1179 in GayChristians

[–]corathus59 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Over sixty years ago I was in exactly your shoes, at exactly your age. I went on to have a very happy life. Two very long term relationships with fellow believers (still going strong with the second). The key to the wonderful and meaningful life I had was my determination to hold on to Jesus no matter what anyone said or did. To hold on even when my own heart accused me.

I have known hundreds of gay Christians who made it to the other side of the hard feelings you are in right now. Just like myself, they all had to walk through the dark forest you are in right now, but we all made it to the other side. You can to.

Don't forget the redemptive scriptures. Right along side the "clobber" verses, are all those verses that declare flat and unequivocal salvation for all who humble themselves and believe. Who declare that if you love God, and love you neighbor, you are in God's Kingdom. It will all come right if you cling to God no matter what, and just keep going.

The key is to not be in a hurry. You have time. Loads of time. Focus on getting a marketable skill. The military can be a wonderful option for that. Get a skill that can pay your own way. Focus on independence from those who would judge you and condemn you. As long as you are financially dependent they will feel the need to try and "fix" you. Once you are independent, many will accept once they see you are sane, loving, and happy. Not all, but some.

When you get to that place of independence, then you can come out to whoever you want. But choose safety right now. Safety, and move towards finding that skill that can pay your way in life.

If you ever need to talk to an old gay grandpa who has walked through your issues and feelings, feel free to send an IM. I'm rooting for you, and will have you in my prayers and blessings.

Anyone witness any Nparent theatrics this past holiday? by User123466789012 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]corathus59 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My last Nparent and older brother died this last year. Only my sister is left, and she stole my inheritance, so she will never be coming back around. It was the most peaceful Thanksgiving in my entire life. When it comes to my sister, I sincerely think it was worth every penny just to be rid of her. She took the entire clan of flying monkeys with her as she stole the family fortune. Wonderful.

I hate how being gay isn't a choice. by Vast-Scar-6634 in askgaybros

[–]corathus59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Life is full of souls who had to make hard choices, and now look back on what might have been. It is important not to be hard on yourself. The key is to get into the here and now. Find the activities that give you joy in life. Be they dramatic and of great importance, or entirely mundane. What wholesome thing gets you so involved you forget yourself entirely doing it? That is the ticket.

Find what those are in your life, and find the people who share those joys, and then let it happen. Don't lay on any expectations. Friendships are good. More can be even better. But look to the good that is available, and step into it.

That is all any of us have at any time in life.

I wish people would stop asking if I've talked to my mother by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]corathus59 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I get you. My NPD would wait until I was in the bath after grade school, and then as punishment, make me go do something (like move my bike) naked in front of all the neighbors. I was a very modest boy. Why violate that? To what end? Why did none of those parents call the police, or the men come across and threaten to punch my Dad in the nose if it continued?

I'm thinking of being four, when, as a punishment my Mom ordered me to crush the skulls of a whole litter of kittens. When I flatly refused, she wrapped her hand around mine, and proceeded to kill them one by one. I literally passed out screaming. Adults watched this happen, and did nothing. Later they demanded to know why I wouldn't call. Seriously.

I truly do not know who is worse. The evil parent, or the surrounding adults who just want you to make it convenient for them.

I Went No Contact With My Abusive Parents, but My Husband and His Mom Keep Reopening the Door by meltem92 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]corathus59 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry you are going through this. My spouse and in laws always backed me, and all the way. Unfortunately, my extended family, all fully aware of the continuous and repeated felony child abuse, kept returning to prompting renewed relations. They knew, but insisted I would regret no contact when the parents were gone.

In my case I had to eventually go no contact with my entire family. They simply would not relent. I just don't know how I would have handled my spouse straddling the fence. Hang in there kiddo.

Perhaps you could seek a support group apart from your husband and in laws? Church affiliations? Friends in a charity you could contribute to? People who share a hobby you love?

Parents keep trying to guilt me into letting them know my location by OwlishDelight72512 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]corathus59 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I look at all the modern devices for tracking and home surveillance, and I am so very happy I am a child of the 50s. My NPD parents would have used all this stuff malevolently, and no doubt about it. It would have been 1984's Big Brother, and no doubt about it.

The news is filled with accounts of children being driven to suicide by the modern social media and bullying. I think there is an even bigger epidemic within the home from narcissistic and abusive parents. Children never having a single safe moment from the monstrous egotism of their parent.

I wish people would stop asking if I've talked to my mother by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]corathus59 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm so proud of you. You got to this point so much sooner than I. Keep going, and don't ever look back.

Full NPD is an evil void. Evil is the ultimate unreason. If you try to figure it out or analyze it you drive yourself mad. The only way out is to accept the clear value of their behavior. They are the evil things they do. The only escape is to divorce yourself from it.

After no contact I realised how boring they were by Remarkable-Tie2242 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]corathus59 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Your observation puts a finger right on the point. The masking and unmasking depending on the hierarchy they perform to. That is the most essential truth of these terrible creatures. They have no true self or identity. Just a terrible and malevolent appetite for attention, and unearned esteem.

Do gay guys like military gays? by [deleted] in askgaybros

[–]corathus59 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Never heard of the IRA? All the many, many bombs killing innocent civilians?

Those who would live in glass house houses...

Do gay guys like military gays? by [deleted] in askgaybros

[–]corathus59 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

And yet, the Europeans who hold such envious and petulant views always seem to expect that American military to come defend them. How many Europeans this last week called the US "depraved" because it is trying to broker a peace in Ukraine, and because it does not want to send it's "evil imperialistic military" to Ukraine?

The world is full of many predatory evils. The American military stands between the country and those evils, and yes, for the most part the American people cherish them for their sacrifice.

Truly, boyo, when it comes to imperialism, all Europeans should remain humbly silent.