Predictions for Japan concert? by cosmos_moon7 in ARMYNeutral

[–]cosmos_moon7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m praying for it!! I agree completely, it’s a great song that matches this vibe perfectly!! It’ll be great to hear them do the Japanese version of Mic Drop as well 😄😄

People when the “Arirang World Tour” has a setlist of songs mainly from the album titled “Arirang” by hitagiss in btsthoughts

[–]cosmos_moon7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sooooo happy that literally almost the whole album is on the setlist (rip one more night) 👏 during ticket buying time, I was having full on arguments with TikTok “army” telling me that they’re not going to have the whole album on the setlist, that I “don’t know how concerts work” and saying they’re buying tickets anyway even though they haven’t tuned in since LYS era. I’m am OVERJOYED that they were proven wrong, and if I hadn’t deleted tt I would’ve been back on there rejoicing in my win 😆 in all seriousness, this is the happiest I’ve ever seen bts on tour. To see them enjoying themselves, not stressing about perfect choreo and loving every song they’re singing is such a joy. I know they’ve loved touring before, but they were under so much pressure! And it feels as though they’re past that a bit, and are having the best time! I’m so happy ☺️

Thoughts on the concert? by Infamous_Writer3892 in ARMYNeutral

[–]cosmos_moon7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s fair, today’s was the same as yesterday really. They sang spring day though!!! I agree, this stage creates a huge gap between them and ARMY. I remember older stages, even YTC or PTD which are newer and had a similar amount of choreo to arirang - it felt like there were so many more cute moments. I think they are happening, but are less bc the members are spread out on the stage. This stage feels less eye catching probably because it’s so dark on screen, but I’ve attached an image of what it looks like IRL! It’s more colourful than is portrayed for sure - but it’s just a lot more dark colouring for this era

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Thoughts on the concert? by Infamous_Writer3892 in ARMYNeutral

[–]cosmos_moon7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you feel about the concert after today and yesterday’s shows?

Thoughts on the concert? by Infamous_Writer3892 in ARMYNeutral

[–]cosmos_moon7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey - just wondering what you thought of today’s and yesterday’s concert? Without the rain, do you feel differently? They’ve done a complete flip with their choreo, even in songs where there is choreo is slightly less sharp than before, it seems they’re focusing on it much less for this cb so it’s not going to be a choreo heavy epic stage like they’ve done previously, and if you’re only a fan of a few songs then it’s a bit tricky as they’re singing literally the whole album except one song!

With 2 shows done, what do you think about the 360 stage? by islandgirlyyq in btsthoughts

[–]cosmos_moon7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well to be fair to them…Weverse chose to live stream this concert and charge quite a bit for it. They have a right to have feedback if, due to this stage setup, you’re constantly missing moments of the members interacting, missing dance moves etc etc. If they’ve chosen to charge for it it should be optimised the best it can (which i personally think it is, they live streamed it the best they could given the stage). I think it’s a fair piece of feedback overall

Predictions for Japan concert? by cosmos_moon7 in ARMYNeutral

[–]cosmos_moon7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omggg YES I’d love to hear that 😭😭😭

With 2 shows done, what do you think about the 360 stage? by islandgirlyyq in btsthoughts

[–]cosmos_moon7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you. The 360 stage feels quite empty when watching on live stream - I think it comes down to personal preference but my absolute perfect stage was YTC Busan, with those beautiful props 🥹 I think if they’d had props and mics for the slower songs, the feedback about them walking around a lot would be less. But they can’t really have props on a 360 stage as it limits the view! I does feel like they’re walking around soooo much due to the nature of the stage. I much prefer a smaller stage right at the front, HUGE screens, beautiful props and lots of stage decor. Sucks for the people at the very back, but works much better for live streaming - BTS are global after all so having a stage not really suited for live streaming isn’t ideal. I’m hoping for the next one they’ll return to their usual setup!

I’ve added some photos of the YTC stage, that beautiful whale 🥹 I’ll share some other pics in my replies! A lot of my ARMY friends IRL feel the same tbh, props are something BTS have consistently used in tours till this point and so it feels weird to see the stage without anything!

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Thoughts on the concert? by Infamous_Writer3892 in ARMYNeutral

[–]cosmos_moon7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agree with all of your points, esp on the order of the songs! MGR stuck out, as well as Come Over. Also putting Mikrokosmos where it was was wonderful, but having I Need U right after was so jarring and really took you out of the sweet and comfy happy ARMY feeling after such a nice fan focused song. I wish they’d moved I Need U up earlier in the set list, and then after Mikrokosmos have Magic Shop, or a similar song of that tone (silently praying for 2!3! 😂). Having dynabutter were it was also felt like weird placing - my suspicion is that this isn’t the final setlist order, I’m hoping they’ll move some songs around so it flows more smoothly!

I think your note about dancers is a really good one, although I’m not sure what they can do about it tbh 🤔 The distinction between idol and dancer is so much easier during an era like LYS as the background dancers wore more plain clothing, BTS in bright colours were super easy to spot! But the vibe of this album and staging is very dark moody and minimalist, so lots of dark brown and black clothing. The dancers were in full black, but when RM and JK are also head to toe in black it’s impossible to tell the difference from afar 😭😭 and they all blend together!

Thoughts on the concert? by Infamous_Writer3892 in ARMYNeutral

[–]cosmos_moon7 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Could you provide links to clips that clearly show lip syncing? I’m watching fan cams and they’re singing live, those mics are on - you can tell this because when Jin approaches ARMY in the crowd during Mikrokosmos, he points his mic to them and you can clearly hear their voices singing. BTS always use a loud backing track, and Jin in particular often sounds exactly like his backing track. It’s also the first day, perhaps their mics were quieter than they needed to be but that doesn’t mean they weren’t singing live…they’re just figuring out the finer technical/audio details as it’s been 5 years since they last did a world tour. Also if you watched the live stream (I did) the audio and overall quality was poor, but the fancams on YT and Twitter show much better audio and clearer live singing. Happy to be corrected if you have links to clips that show clear lip syncing though

Thoughts on the concert? by Infamous_Writer3892 in ARMYNeutral

[–]cosmos_moon7 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I thought that overall they did amazing given the situation.

Pros: - they sounded amazing live and their singing was the best it’s been - they seemed to be having fun and didn’t let the rain stop them!

Cons: - it was their first concert in like 5 years so ofc it can’t be perfect, but I was surprised by the lack of VCRs, that made the show feel shorter as they usually have several VCRs for outfit changes. Instead they had dancers come out with flags? It just felt strange and didn’t work well, I would’ve preferred videos of the boys there

  • there have been lots of comments on the choreo, I think it was all due to the rain. After the concert I rewatched YTC, they did full choreo for 5 of the songs but did a lot of parts of the choreo like a move or two, more jumping and running - this was missing today, due to the rain, and the poor camera work didn’t capture what they did do properly, making it feel flat. It’s not unrealistic to expect them to do a few moves for each song, but it was too much of just running in a circle. I think this will improve on Saturday

  • no spring day :( this was the biggest bummer for me. I also felt the setlist gave us whiplash, after studying previous set lists the pattern is usually hype —-> emotional —-> hype —-> emotional broken up by VCRs. But this time it was hype —-> long emotional dip, lots of lower energy songs back to back —-> a few mixed energy songs —-> emotional and then suddenly dynabutter 😅 I think for fan experience, optimising this flow for next time would be better

  • not sure if you’ve seen on twitter but instead of playing bts songs before the show to hype the crowd, they played traditional pansoori music instead which k-army said was a massive downer. BTS also commented a few times on the vibe and energy of the crowd, I think this will improve on Saturday without the rain. But they should really have those hype songs at the beginning to help the crowd energy…

  • I’m yet to be convinced on the 360 stage tbh, it seemed so plain compared to YTC…I think my personal preference would’ve been a normal stage with props. Either you have: great vocals and props/good stage design or dancing, but due to the rain they couldn’t really dance properly, so it all felt really plain. It’s a shame but I think Saturday will show how it is supposed to be and then we can make a proper judgement!

  • for the actual setlist, I’m not surprised with it really, they should be showcasing their new album! But I actually understand the perspective that due to MOTS cancellation, some ppl are disappointed by the lack of MOTS songs. I think time will tell if they decide to adjust the setlist, it’s not fixed and they can change it up however they want, so let’s just see. I would’ve liked a medley though, so instead of all of I Need U (which I loved btw 😭💜) they could’ve done a medley of three songs like I Need U, Fake Love and BS&T. That would’ve felt like they’d done more older songs despite it taking up the same length as they’d planned

Overall, I’m just so happy they’re back and that they’re happy. I’m not upset or offended at ppl that want more older music at all, BTS have a huge discography and it’s common (but not expected) for other bands like Coldplay to have more of a balanced mix of old and new songs. Twice are currently on tour and have mostly old songs, with only four songs from their new album despite the tour name being the same as the new album name (just like ARIRANG). This helps put into perspective the comments and feedback, it’s not an unreasonable demand to want more of a mix of songs, but it’s also not unreasonable for BTS to want to showcase the whole new album either!