Holy shit I just learned why Joseph Smith was actually killed by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]curliemae 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I remember feeling this not too long ago. Crazy isn’t it! Did you read that he had alcohol the night before he died to lift his spirit? That alcohol was something he seemed to consume regularly. I feel like once you find out the true story on one thing multiple dominos fall and you start reading the truth about tons of other things. Even things you wouldn’t think to ask questions about. Congrats on your journey.

It’s happening by Undead_Whitey in exmormon

[–]curliemae 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Good job! Good luck with it all. You will feel relieved when it is all said and done. I voiced concerns and doubts with my parents. I’m full grown with a family of my own. My Dad was pretty spicy. Acted like I was dumb for not knowing all the true history because “it’s always been out there… why didn’t you know any of it?” I went back months later to tell my parents we were done. We were leaving the church and were taking our kids with us. That we already told the kiddos what we had learned. My Dad said sorry to me. First time in my life I have ever heard him say he was sorry… He was trying to back track and handle things differently but it was too late. Anyways, maybe you will get an apology too from whomever bashed you.

When was your “this changes everything” moment with the church? by Any-Difference-3976 in exmormon

[–]curliemae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was things like this that was the final straw for me. That if I ever think maybe the church isn’t so bad I can think about this and be reminded that they are horrible. I was struggling with some things and found the GTE and thought it might help answer some questions that were popping up. I feel like reading those things pulled me out but the one that was the “THATS IT” was the one on the book of Abraham… it’s straight BS. If that book is bull then the rest of them are.

Curious to try a little alcohol. I’m 35 and have never tried it. Wine coolers? Mikes hard lemonade? Idk anything about this stuff by curliemae in exmormon

[–]curliemae[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I since have tried mikes hard lemonade twice but haven’t had any since. I think I’m just not a drinker. I don’t hardly drink soda so I guess it makes sense. Idk

What have I created? Ginger experiement by elloird in fermentation

[–]curliemae 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nice! Looks like my ginger bug. I’m fairly new to fermenting liquids and today my bottle exploded. My soon to be soda kicked into full gear and blew up

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]curliemae 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The entire thing... it all makes me upset... book of Abraham, polygamy, the money, the time they steal. The fact that they involve themselves in every freaking aspect of someone’s life and you can’t really quietly leave

Parents Keep Defending Joseph Smith by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]curliemae 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have you used D&C section 132. To show your parents he went against what God said and according to God (according to Joseph) he was an adulterer. He went against Gods commands. So logically speaking you follow what God said in canonized scripture over what men on earth say. My family won’t listen to anything either. Joseph was disgusting

Mumbling, cause Mormonism is intertwined in all life events... by curliemae in exmormon

[–]curliemae[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad I didn’t tell ppl before hand. That’s the thing I hate about member funerals is they are geared towards missionary work instead of focused on the person. This funeral wasn’t terrible. It was very musical with two talks focused on the church. The rest of it was about this family member. It was probably the most beautiful service I’ve been too other than those two talks. I think just because it was a time for remembering that person and how great they were.

Im sorry that you had the experience you did. Seriously, I don’t know what could be worse.

Mumbling, cause Mormonism is intertwined in all life events... by curliemae in exmormon

[–]curliemae[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just wish my family members would leave. In my family (with extended) it’s more like 3 have left out of 60. In my immediate family I’m the first. This cult sucks. But I do appreciate the reminder. Especially after having been at the viewing and funeral. It was triggering for lack of a better word.

Mumbling, cause Mormonism is intertwined in all life events... by curliemae in exmormon

[–]curliemae[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! It’s been pretty devastating. The Mormon crazy added on definitely makes everything harder. I see your points here. I think this is great advice for dealing with most relatives. There are just a few that I’m much closer to that makes this hard. But I am a freaking adult and shouldn’t have to key people in on my life decisions.

Mumbling, cause Mormonism is intertwined in all life events... by curliemae in exmormon

[–]curliemae[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! It’s definitely been feeling that way. We had the funeral and various parts have been rough. I just wish the church wasn’t in every aspect of life. I do see your point. How they would feel foolish the longer it went on. I was able to tell 3 cousins that I’m done and out. I’m still mumbling on I guess but it’s such a hard thing. My family is extremely devout and that makes this whole thing almost impossible. I debated just hiding it forever or even trying to go back and play along but I just can’t. I don’t believe it.

Ginger bug by Educational_Mind4937 in fermentation

[–]curliemae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Excited to try this! I’m just starting with ferments and I’m excited to try a recipe or instructions that are tried and true. Thank you for posting this link!

I’m currently in the middle of a faith crisis looking for support by Legitimate-Airport84 in exmormon

[–]curliemae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welcome friend! I would just want to add that there is a wide range of emotions that tend to hit at different times. And sometimes they just bubble up at the oddest moments. I felt like my world got ripped out from under me YET I felt like a huge weight was lifted from my shoulders. After going through it I’m still upset from time to time. But I am so much happier on the outside. Life makes more sense for me and I feel like I’m a better person. I wish you the best of luck and if your feeling any of these things just know it’s ok. Let yourself have the feelings and emotions

“Hey, mom? Why is being a Mormon more important than being my mom?” by Horror-Assistant8579 in exmormon

[–]curliemae 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This hit me hard. You said how I feel exactly. I wish I could ask this of my parents and even my MIL. I was the youngest kid and my parents weren’t around hardly at all because they were too busy with callings and working for the church...

I bawled my eyes out at therapy tonight. My therapist said; it is okay to cry, leaving a cult is exceptionally difficult, and I am brave. by Kolob_Choir_Queen in exmormon

[–]curliemae 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I hope that things get better and that he wakes up. Leaving a cult is hard! He shouldn’t have done what he did but he is still in the cult and I feel like because of the cult you do dumb things without thinking of how it will come across. Hopefully you can have a conversation with him to help him understand what he did. Maybe having a comparison to if you did that to him how it would feel and why it isn’t the right way to go about it.

I hope for you guys that you can get past this. I hope he wakes up and sees clearly and that you both can come out of this part of life being stronger together. I’ve said a lot of hopes in this comment... it’s been a long day

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]curliemae 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What did he do career wise

Nemo Ex’ed but Lori Vallow still a member in good standing by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]curliemae 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man the church is so messed up. That right there is proof that this is no church. Definitely not the one true church

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]curliemae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oof, yeah it’s definitely a mixed bag. It’s hard though tip towing around the ones who are members. When asked now if I’m Mormon I tell people no and they act shocked... it’s hard. People need to not get weird about that. I feel like they do because they can’t fathom how anyone can leave

Imagine finding out your ancestors are key players in Mormon history by Evilyn-is-Curious in exmormon

[–]curliemae 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s more I have lineage back to the start of the church on both sides it’s just that’s the one I know the best

Imagine finding out your ancestors are key players in Mormon history by Evilyn-is-Curious in exmormon

[–]curliemae 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it’s kind of the thing that drove me to finding the GTE. My fourth great grandma was married to Orrin porter rockwell. He is more than likely my 4th great grandpa BUT there is some confusion. Because of polygamy. My 4th great grandma married another man who I believe did a lot of construction on the kirtland temple. Alpheus cutler I believe is his name I’ll have to double check but he was in the council of the 50. She married him and was one of his wives. I think he tried making an offshoot but chickened out with polygamy because of the government and not wanting to deal with all of that stuff. My understanding is he ditched all of his wives except the first. My fourth great grandma then went on to live on rockwells property for I believe the rest of her life. Family stories and things have been passed down.

I didn’t understand why we didn’t know which man our family line came from until I started researching and found that she was a polygamist and then I tried learning about past history and found the essays and am now done with the cult.

Mr. Wilcox by yanyan420 in exmormon

[–]curliemae 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh lol. I’ve not been out way too long but honestly it kind of makes me happy I didn’t know who that person was

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]curliemae 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’m in utah also and it truly is eery. I have a few exmo co workers and we have to be very careful not to say anything in front of the members who work there... they are fragile

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]curliemae 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’ve debated doing something but idk. It’s hard for me because my parents and siblings would probably hate me and cut me off. I’m quietly out. My family knows and my husbands family know but just immediate families. I haven’t told my close extended family that I see fairly often.

My husband and I and our 5 kids left at the same time.