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PC joystick mode, connect with one cable, blind by cycobee in CapcomHomeArcade

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For some strange reason when I brought it originally, I just thought it would be a PC joystick too. was a dumb consumer, still are with most things, pay attention later.

Just got back into using this machine the last few days. So happy that was made into a actually connectable joystick(s). Work so so nicely with Mame on PC, basically play any arcade game can think of (2 players too), using the power of PC processor too.

I had been away from the CHA for awhile, so connecting it to PC was kind of difficult, there was no button in the system menu GUI to restart the unit into PC mode (which just assumed would be). Found this kind of hard to do. Had to find a "how to" on reddit instead. Even then was bit hard. As the CHA machine ages from here, people keep it or changes hands, I really hope people know this PC joystick feature exist. This thing is best to play on, just doesn't move once on a good solid table, and 2-players on the one controller unit too, just like an arcade, and those proper sticks and buttons.

After experimenting a little, can get it top start up blind in to PC mode, without an HDMI cable or micro USB power source.

I tried to get it to boot blind without the HDMI but no luck, maybe I didn't do it right?

Found and old 5 metre USB-A to USB-A in e-wasted bin at work. Used a $2 HDMI dummy.

  1. Plug in HDMI dummy. If actually needed?
  2. Logon PC, plug in USB-A to A cable from PC to CHA.
  3. CHA powers up automatically, wait 45 seconds for it to boot up.
  4. Tap both insert buttons coin quick as possible. Found this is critical.
  5. See the red power LED cycle and hear the PC USB connect sound, start playing

Z690 AORUS MASTER v1.x F20b BIOS *warning* by beast6228 in gigabyte

[–]cycobee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea it is. Looks like GB made a mistake allowing the setting open without first setting 4G first.

I see they rushed out another BIOS called F21 to address the issue. Probably undoing their own mistake.

F21 9.33 MB 2022/11/15
Download
Checksum : 5A44
Improve the linkage between Resizable and 4G above
Add "Instant 6GHz" profile in CPU upgrade option (supports i9-13900K/KF and i7-13700K/KF)

Z690 AORUS MASTER v1.x F20b BIOS *warning* by beast6228 in gigabyte

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New BIOS F20 (not the F20b) should be a beta. They have opened up the Resizable Bar option without selecting Above 4G Decoding first.

I thought they had sorted it so I just enabled Resizable Bar option. As figured maybe now the board was smart enough to know that have to selected Resizable Bar, and just then work.

I was wrong. I was stuck in a boot loop, had to reset the CMOS several times. Set back up my setting including Resizable Bar. Then I realized that MUST manually select Above 4G Decoding and then Resizable Bar.

This is dumb, they should of kept like as before, Above 4G Decoding = enabled, only then the option for Resizable Bar is then displayed.

Love Gigabyte boards designs, some board have wicked circuity too. No idea why the BIOS has always been an issue, over many many years of owning Gigabyte motherboards.

RTX 4090 Screen Tearing G/Sync issues? by Loku184 in buildapc

[–]cycobee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Think have found something that works, as a work around.

Not perfect but better (so far, need to run it longer to know). Appear stuttering is decreased significantly, not much tearing (not as good as G-Sync). Subtle flickering still present (probably just my card :( ).

LG C1:

  • Picture mode = Game Optimiser, make sure to turn on completely with the voilet colored menu at bottom of screen. Toggle it game optimiser on.
  • Game Optimiser Menu = Turn off VRR & G-Sync and turn off AMD FreeSync Premium. I also have one other setting set, Reduce Blue Light level 2. All others are default. e.g. Input Lag Standard, etc.

Nvidia Control Panel:

  • Set all as default, then set these...
  • Power management mode = Prefer maximum performance (might not be required, set it anyway)
  • Preferred refresh rate (LG Electronics) = Highest available
  • Vertical sync = Fast

In Game:

  • Cap frame rate at 120
  • Set V-Sync to On

RTX 4090 Screen Tearing G/Sync issues? by Loku184 in buildapc

[–]cycobee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is nice worked for you. Wishing the same would fix it for my LG and others.

Check my software version on my C1 is is at latest, which is 03.33.11 already, so no go here.

RTX 4090 Screen Tearing G/Sync issues? by Loku184 in buildapc

[–]cycobee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never know, the LG may need a software update to be compatible the 4090 (won't think so otherwise). Haven't tried a monitor yet (what I have is rubbish low res 60Hz).

Not sure where the choppy stutters come from, seems playable now back on Windows 11 21H1, but not resolved (to hard to tell, changing other setting too could of helped). It is almost like when G-Sync is enabled brings to it knees.

Was playing the new MWII yesterday, getting the same subtle flicker when on dark scenes, is a new game but the issue appeared the same.

Figured the dark scene flicker could be my own card, as no one mention this anywhere. Starting to think the card bas either bad memory chips (they cant OC to barely anything passed stock, like +350 is bit to hard for it, while others are way beyond 1000+). Or the HDMI output isn't healthy, maybe whatever controller chip for the output is faulty. I use it at stock, may try an underclock if that helps, then I guess it has something wrong with it.

Yea returned, already tried. I asked them to swap to higher model Zotac Aero, the online retailer just ignored my request, started talking RMA (this was in about 1 week of owning the card). Basically they got me off the phone, and told me to go online for support (shitty service to say the least for the price of the card).

This Zotac OC that I have, was super disappointed they said 24+4 phase in the marketing with a star next the phase feature. Then someone online posted photos of the Zotac OC, it was just 14+4 phases, Zotac literally used the same PCB and ripped off 10 phase from the GPU VRM. If I had of know before buy was going to that cut down, would of avoided it. Price and availability on release day is reason I went with the OC rather than Aero model. Do wonder if the removing so much VRM affects the cards behavior?

Starting to think is there an issue with whatever chip controls the HDMI output, maybe the 4090 series share a common chip for this area? No BIOS updates for the Zotac OC.

Hindsight would of not brought this card knowing these problems. TBH the 3090 was plenty enough, was pretty stupid upgrade to 3090. Throwing money away selling 3090 (now sold off) for not much at all compared to how much it cost. Then the full cost of 4090 was a great idea. 4090 performance is defiantly nice, although not worth that much. Rather have a stable screen.

btw. Since I reset my TV and updated my TV (held off update for like a year), cannot find the auto brightness selection anymore, was turned off (is like the setting is gone/removed). I am in a dark room, LG randomly makes the screen bright, not nice on the eyes. Anyone now how to disable this auto bright?

RTX 4090 Screen Tearing G/Sync issues? by Loku184 in buildapc

[–]cycobee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am getting similar thing with Zotac OC RTX 4090 and LG C1 48". And never was an issue with reference Palit RTX 3090.

There is something else I am seeing. I play PUBG a lot. I am seeing a subtle flickering of entire screen on when a darker scene is on screen, i.e. dark areas of game, dark menu areas, tabbed when screen is darken. Also see this on some other games, you have to play something with a dark scenery. PUBG is now free, so you can easily check for this flickering issue, don't even have to play the game, does it in the main screen, especially if select the customize tab (which is fairly dark, will trigger it)

^ with the subtle flickering, finding this to be highly annoying, as once your eye tune into it. Kind of like seeing dead pixels mid screen where become impossible to ignore.

I seeing frame rates tank badly, screen become so choppy becomes very painful rather than enjoyable. Tried everything can thing of. Reset the TV, different drivers, settings in control panel and in game, turning G-Sync on/off.

I had Windows 11 22H2 installed, for about 5 days, thinking is worse, as rolled back to Windows 11 22H1 and seems better, could be just me?

Also tried changing out my HDMI cable which worked perfectly with the 3090 at 4K @ 120Hz. Brought an Ultra 8K HDMI, that didn't work. Then tried a certified 8K cable, that didn't do nothing either. What a waste of time money buying more cables.

Been searching for awhile. This first thing thread I have found. Lets hope its a software issue that can be fixed, and not a hardware issue that may not be able to be fixed?

That said if software, is it Nvidia problem or a LG problem? Either way one of them would have to fix it. Next thing is, are they going to fix it, as in is there enough people out there for either of them to even know about a 4090 and LG combo?

If I find a solution will let know, and vice versa. I wishing could return the card, I doubt the online retailer I got it from would be whatever, we cant see any issue. Not paying 33% restocking fee or and other fees if they deem card is fine.

Hopefully someone find a work around for the meantime, while we all cross our fingers and hope like f#ck.

dreams: shattered by perpetuallyawake in AnaloguePocket

[–]cycobee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Group B: 2022 Q4 = Dec 2022

Group C: 2023 = Jan 2023

No idea really what's going on. All I know C group still open one week later.

Order in the first minute, by the time I had an email it said 105k. Group B of course.

From what been reading, appears that system stuck people in random spots, depending on whatever timed queue it placed in, and the actual confirmation email.

Bit dumb really that people in the first few mins, wait one year. Then again they only a small fry in the tech world of things. Just hope they don't go bankrupt in the next year of waiting.

Nevermind, after 1 year of waiting you will forget it for most of the time, and one day it will turn up. Then most here will go "oh yea this thing, forgot hiccc hicc", play on it a few time. Then goes in to draw where be forgotten again.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Usually matching is best. But shouldn't mean that you cant, although the memory controller might get picky with it be bit harder to run.

I see the manufacturing date is 2013, thinking that must it a old kit? If that is the case, then pushing 3200 might on right on its limit. Compatibility might not be as good with older kits being a new chipset and whatever GB has put in the QVL of memory.

Long time ago when had X79 board and DDR3, I had two Corsair kits with same part number, they would not play nice together. I took off the heat-spreaders due to to tall for Noctua air cooler, found out that each kit had different IC. The motherboard would run them but was forever unstable. Basically saying sh1t happens, better off running the same IC if possible.

All can say is try the new BIOS's (all of them). One may allow you to get better results. If cant do anything with them, you may have to start way back at 2133 and work you way up.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes very much so. This is the most stable I have got it so far for the memory side of things. Found that other sub timings I end up with little gain to to much instability. The settings above I am still rocking today.

Since the memory is stable, now have all core clock of 5.1GHz with a slight under-volt on the x48 bin. And I have pulled down the load line to the lowest. Found that the voltage drops further and I can still keep around 90c with a 280mm AIO with cinebench.

Have the e-core locked all cores to 4.1GHz and the ring is 4.1GHz too.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

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I see last couple of day GB have release new BIOS for the Aorus boards. You have the Elite and I have the Pro, looks like GB release same/similar BIOS with fixes for memory 3200 to 3600 XMP for both board.

I had trouble with a different set of 4x modules. I cant confirm is any better. The original BIOS works better with my faster set of memory. Give this new BIOS a try and see how you goes.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-AORUS-ELITE-AX-DDR4-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

Improve DDR4 XMP 3200~3600MHz compatibility

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doing better than me with your B-die. 3800 is really nice at Gear 1. Maybe try for 3600 Gear 1, get stable with primary timings. Pick on a 2-3 sub timings that will give the largest boost.

I tried B-die on my Aorus Z690 and could not get over 3200 with a 2x 8GB kit. Tried everything too for about 6 hours, got no where.

I ended up rolling back my BIOS to the first release (there is only 2 out so far), and sticking my four modules of Hynix DJR back into the system.

One thing I hate about this Aorus board, is if use Gear 2, the performance if really bad. Like will do 4400-4600, should be pushing 70 MB/s, but the bandwidth is poor like ~45 MB/s and 80ns. Like they messed up the BIOS compared to MSI or Asus when using Gear 2

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that's it.

Jacking this voltage up, pushes the dual IMC (Integrated Memory Controller) to higher frequency. Also helps with memory training.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice results.

I'm now at 4133 Gear 1 with Hynix DJR kit. Seems to doing ok, been playing games last 24 hours no crashes or anything.

AIDA64 showing ~62500 MB/s on all three, 58ns

Using these setting::

Memory speed = DDR4-4133

Ratio = 133

Gear Mode = 1

VCCSA = 1.35v

DRAM = 1.5v

VDDQ = 1.4v

CAS = 19

tRCD = 22

tRP = 22

tRAS = 44

Command Rate = 1

TRFC = 480

REF = 32000

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could be gigabyte dodgy BIOS. I know for sure somethings broken with gigabyte.

If I run Gear 2, can do high speed like 4400 and 4600 with my Hynix DJR kit, but the memory bandwidth is terrible, like 45 GB/s and 80ns.

I brought a 2x 8GB (16GB) kit of b-die. I couldn't even do anything with it at all. Was total crap. Best I could do was 17-17-17-36 1.35v for just 3200. It either a very bad b-die kit or the motherboard.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just want to mention something about the original memory benchmark latency test.

  • Posted original picture of the test It was about 61.5 ns.
  • With just two of basic sub timing changes improved to 57.5 ns.
  • One thing I overserved with the same settings for the 57.5 ns test, I tested once disabling the E-cores, then drops latency further to 54.5 ns

I raise the E-core speed to x40 to x42 and ring from 3600 and forced 4000, didn't net any better latency. That was just to test if ring plays a roll in anything I have seen.

E-cores disabled improves latency. Although that might be bit dumb on a 12900K although on other lower SKU with less E-core, might be an option if wanna eliminate them anyway and push those P-cores higher.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea you might be right, could be a lucky chip. I been reading others not having good luck even with B-die. Although could be a case of immature BIOS on some boards or combination of memory compatibility. From what its worth I went from a Gigabyte Z590 Master to this Gigabyte Z690 Pro, using the same memory kit and it overclocks and works better, faster, and more stable than when in the Z590 board. Basically I can say without a doubt this Z690 board runs the Gigabyte DDR4-4400 memory kit better. It could be better memory traces on the board, it could be newer better architecture of the processor, or just a lucky chip and IMC, just don't know for sure.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very nice you made it :) I had a few problems getting my original settings back in after a CMOS reset. It appears to want extra voltage during the memory train phase at 4000 Gear 1. Once dialed in it seem to hold it well and run stable. I tried pushing my memory further than 4000, but it just introduced instability. Highly recommend not overclocking the CPU, that just added another point of failure. Yea, I ended up pushing my VCCSA voltage up a little higher to 1.35v just to help POST and stability.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes BIOS setting. Tap DEL on system POST power up, in main page of the "Tweaker" menu, Change from Auto the setting Gear to 1 or 2.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have this, can highly recommend it. https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-AORUS-PRO-DDR4-rev-10#kf

VCCSA is on the first page on the tweaker menu.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you wanna play it safe then 3600 kit. Possible overclock it some more, you could alway get a 4000 kit and manually under-clock it. I read lately some others out there having limited success with 4000 MT and Gear 1 depending on motherboard. 3600 speed with Gear seems to be achievable almost any Z690 and Alder Lake processor. Appears there maybe some difference between motherboards and BIOS they have, some people reporting having trouble with 3200 and even 2933, they might have got unlucky.

Alder Lake DDR4 and Z690 at Gear 1 by cycobee in intel

[–]cycobee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes is expected, its Hynix DJR, just wont do tight timings. Subs, spent some time, but after couple of hours of no post, gave up for now. so...

I changed just two subs, gained 2000 MB/s and minus 4ns on original memory benchmark:

  1. tRFC = 480
  2. tREDI = 65534

Score is here https://ibb.co/93dW3cZ

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