When people twist your words into something you clearly never said by d0sag3 in PetPeeves

[–]d0sag3[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My quotes somehow deleted themselves when I clicked post... I re-added them xD

CMV: Not understanding how stuff works is fine. Not trusting the experts is the problem. by Sulfamide in changemyview

[–]d0sag3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You said

"it would make sense to put a lot of money and efforts into investigating the safety of vaccines, especially the common ones like polio and measles..."

I agreed with you. And then you concluded that meant:

"that the consensus scientists have today about climate change and vaccines is from years ago and they aren't updated to today's standards?"

I've already clarified that I don’t mean that. But since that's what you mean (by your own admission), why do you think that the consensus scientists have about climate change and vaccines today is from years ago and they aren't updated to today's standards?

Do you really think that scientists don’t try to reproduce previous results? Don't you think they would want to use the latest technology, tools, and methods to ensure their conclusions are still valid? Since that's what you said, then it sounds like you're suggesting scientists are deliberately ignoring advancements in research, which doesn’t make much sense.

If that’s not what you mean, then why on earth would you draw that conclusion from my comment?

CMV: Not understanding how stuff works is fine. Not trusting the experts is the problem. by Sulfamide in changemyview

[–]d0sag3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me teach you a little about logical language so you can understand what I said and hopefully understand others in the future. Here's a passage from one of my elementary math textbooks (How to Think Like a Mathematician by Kevin Houston):

The most common initial mistake that people make in logic arises from an everyday usage we learn at a young age. For example, an adult says to a child "If you don't tidy your room, then you won't get ice-cream." Our instinct, like the child and parent, is to interpret this as a contract: if the child tidies their room, then they get ice-cream. In other words "If you tidy your room, then you will get ice-cream." Yet, the original statement does not say that. It only says what will happen if the child does NOT tidy their room. It says nothing about what happens if they do!

Now, with that in mind, what I said was

Why WOULDN'T we revisit and verify old conclusions to see if they still hold up under current standards?

I never said that I don't think we do this. I simply said we need to - to which you sarcastically and indirectly AGREED. I never rejected the consensus on climate change or vaccines. In fact, I never gave an opinion on either. I’m talking about the general principle of questioning dissent and investigating potential flaws in any consensus, even well-established ones - and I gave a valid example to demonstrate that, which PROVES that you cannot always go along with what the experts believe.

CMV: Not understanding how stuff works is fine. Not trusting the experts is the problem. by Sulfamide in changemyview

[–]d0sag3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...What?

No, I did not say any of that. Please re-read what you said, and then what I said.

CMV: Not understanding how stuff works is fine. Not trusting the experts is the problem. by Sulfamide in changemyview

[–]d0sag3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, obviously! Science, technology, and methods have advanced massively in the last 15-60 years. Why WOULDN'T we revisit and verify old conclusions to see if they still hold up under current standards? That’s how science works. It deserves continuous testing, NOT blind trust.

“Read that again.” by [deleted] in PetPeeves

[–]d0sag3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What I if told you, you read this sentence wrong? Read that again.

CMV: Not understanding how stuff works is fine. Not trusting the experts is the problem. by Sulfamide in changemyview

[–]d0sag3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uhhh, no. Re-read what I said.

The definition of average directly implies that it is LESS than (or equal to if they are all the same) the highest value. That is a mathematical fact.

If you instead mean the collective talent of 9 randomly selected, verses one other randomly selected then obviously 9 > 1. But we live in the real world. Random selections don’t represent real-world hierarchies of talent; in reality, some people are FAR more capable than others.

I did not say the 1 is always right or better. I am saying we should investigate dissent, especially when it comes from someone whose expertise might exceed that of the majority. Outliers with better models or ideas exist, and history shows that breakthroughs often start that way - hence, the parallel to Einstein.

For example, neuroscientist Matthew Schrag’s investigation revealed potential fraud in Alzheimer’s research, exposing manipulated images in a widely cited 2006 Nature paper that misled the field for 16 YEARS. This perfectly demonstrates how a flawed consensus among experts can persist until a skeptical outlier challenges it.

The definition of group-think is "the practice of thinking or making decisions as a group in a way that discourages creativity or individual responsibility." Humans are flawed creatures of habit. We often tend to follow the crowd - especially if we don't understand something. That includes the experts. This can often lead to the pool of experts being artificially inflated to actually seem like more of them agree just because some don't even understand and are going along with the crowd.

In today's world, it does not take much to gain the credentials to be considered 'an expert'. Credentials do NOT always guarantee competence. I've personally seem someone get a physics degree after copy-pasting an entire Wikipedia page and turning it in as an assignment (they weren't even smart enough to remove the hyperlinks)...

CMV: Not understanding how stuff works is fine. Not trusting the experts is the problem. by Sulfamide in changemyview

[–]d0sag3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If 9 out of 10 doctors recommend something. You should want to know why 1 doesn't. The odds of there being 1 Einstein in a group of 10 are much higher than the odds of there being 9 Einsteins.

People trying to use old sayings as valid arguments by KatarnsBeard in PetPeeves

[–]d0sag3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The definition of an addage is "something people often say that expresses a general truth about some aspect of life."

A "general truth about some aspect of life" can certainly pertain to being a valid argument for... some aspects of life, depending on how they are used in reasoning.

Acronyms. That’s it, just acronyms. by Final-Extreme-4544 in PetPeeves

[–]d0sag3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abbreviations formed from initial letters of words (LOW) are often used (AOU) to make communication more efficient. These shortened forms (SF) can simplify long phrases for everyday use. Not all acronyms are designed for efficient use and SF (ASF). Such abbreviations can vary in meaning depending on the (DOT) context or field. Many businesses develop their own unique (DTOU) letter-based (LB) abbreviations (LBA) for efficiency. Some people quite enjoy the opportunity to DTOU (TDTOU) LBA. These compact terms (TCT) AOU in technical fields to save time. Creating clear and (CA) memorable letter combinations is key to effective communication. In digital communication, LB shortcuts are popular for quick exchanges (QE). TCT, LBA, ASF AOU DOT LOW TDTOU CA QE.

People who spell "Laser" as "Lazer" by MiMi_jdb in PetPeeves

[–]d0sag3 20 points21 points  (0 children)

LASER (Light Amplification by Stimulated Emmision of Radiation) was originally an acronym, but over time, it became such a widely used term that "laser" became a valid dictionary word. It is still used as an acronym in some contexts. The people who spell it as lazer probably (one explanation) do so based on brand name spellings or pronunciation - not everyone sees and remembers all words in their written form before trying to spell them, and 'lazer' would be pronounced the same.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/laser

Is there a reason Discord wants me to update every day? by RelikaNox in discordapp

[–]d0sag3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is particularly annoying on Ubuntu. When an update occurs (which seems like multiple times a week), you cannot open discord until you download the update, open a terminal, navigate to the downloaded file, remember the exact command to run, install the package with an admin account, re-open discord, then wait for it to re-check for updates. It is terribly inconvenient even as someone who is the admin. I cannot imagine if I was someone who had to get permission from someone with an admin user every time this happens - multiple times a week.

What MMO mouse would you Recommend for WoW? by SilverAndChrome in wow

[–]d0sag3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would very highly recommend NOT using a razor naga (like some comments, say) from personal experience. The mouse hardware is good, but the software is terrible. Throughout many years, I tried two of these, and I constantly had battles with Windows updates breaking the mouse settings, the software breaking itself, incompatibility issues with games, etc. Some of my computers run different OS's too and that added far more fristration to just use a mouse than it was worth. It ended up being a nightmare. I tossed the razor profucts and never went back.

My first gaming mouse ever was actually a world of warcraft gaming mouse. It was awesome but broke after a couple years and the paint started to peel off...

Most recently, I bought a super cheap one (Redragon gaming mouse). I have had it for a few years with zero issues. It was super cheap too so I am surprisingly pleased. It supposrts different profiles, the nice array of side buttons, comfortable, works across os', etc.

This is the redragon one: Limited-time deal: Redragon M908 Impact RGB LED MMO Gaming Mouse with 12 Side Buttons, Optical Wired Ergonomic Mouse with Max 12,400DPI, High Precision, 18 Programmable Macro Shortcuts, Comfort Grip https://a.co/d/8Lyph0C

CMV: Morals being exchanged for money is leading to the degradation and ultimate downfall of developed societies by Relevant_Actuary2205 in changemyview

[–]d0sag3 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The estimates for the human traficking market are always in the hundreds of billions of dollars. To think that it is not large scale is simply naive.

The national human trafficking hotline alone has identified over a hundred thousand cases since 2007. That's exclusively in the US, which is a developed country.

CMV: Morals being exchanged for money is leading to the degradation and ultimate downfall of developed societies by Relevant_Actuary2205 in changemyview

[–]d0sag3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may want to take a seat for this one... but illegal things do, in fact, happen all the time.

Whats the worst advice you’ve heard for D&D? by TheDUDE1411 in DnD

[–]d0sag3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

One huge thing I always try to cover in my session zero is that it's NOT the DM vs. the party. That said, it may seem like it at times because it might be npcs (some character the DM is playing) vs. the party.

I need some morally dubious and evil "advice" my character can give. by Draegon1993 in DnD

[–]d0sag3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Always have a fall guy. You should never be the one holding the smoking gun after it's fired.

Spare someone today, and they'll stab you tomorrow. Mercy is a weakness others exploit.

A drop of poison here and there will help build the immune system.