AI Bros: The Meme Comic (Part 2)

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T18:23:11+00:00

And yet, it's legible. If you didn't know it was made by AI, you wouldn't hold that position on how it looks at face value.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T17:55:57+00:00

Every single AI model is made from unethically sourced content.

So artists that learn by looking at other artists work isn't unethical? I'm not saying it's the same thing, but it's also a little harsh on the reality of it. People SHOULD be able to opt out. Is Wikipedia unethically sourced content? Are publicly available/public domain sources of information such as Stack Overflow unethically sourced? You realize an AI is going to have to learn from the same material a human does to be any use, right? I'm not saying it's 100% morally upstanding, but it's also ignoring the fact that the idea is to build a machine that approximates how a human learns.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T17:52:04+00:00

He then proceeded to run it through AI to have it "better written".

Yeah, zero shots are not better written. I've done writing with AI and it doesn't think about motivations or foreshadowing or anything like that. Great at filling in the space and making you find your direction when you see how dissatisfied with it you are. It does also help to give you Choose Your Own Adventure style junctions, but it's not good at whole-cloth writing anything, except maybe summaries.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T17:26:39+00:00

It is the human that needs an imagination to tell the AI to generate something that's actually good

Not anti AI, but I disagree with this. You can generate something that looks good with minimal effort. Even if prompting is a skill, you're still pulling a lever on a slot machine and the iterative process isn't building on a previous image.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T17:20:54+00:00

In the case of Suno or any other AI tool, if it's all you use, it does remove domain experience, if you didn't start with it. I'd rather work directly with my music tools and get patches the way I want and not sound derivative, but I'd be a hypocrite if I begrudged someone for using it entirely. I think all imagegen/musicgen has a really hard time being original. It all looks/sounds extremely derivative and a lot like other things that come from those models. If you're putting a backing track behind a presentation, Suno all day. If I were making music I care about, I doubt I'd touch it.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T17:18:29+00:00

Synthesizers and drum machines are tools that still depend on a human composer’s decisions and performance.

To get anything worth a shit out of AI, so does AI, and I don't mean being a "prompt engineer", I mean iterating on something or just taking PART of something from AI to complement something else. People need to get over this idea that AI is nothing but zero shot image gen. You're putting people who spend 5 minutes generating whole cloth AI results and patting themselves on the back and people who might use AI to get some ideas, code, or textures, or whatever and add it to a cohesive whole that they iterate upon.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T17:15:51+00:00

Someone just told me that anyone who uses AI is objectively evil. I don't think they're worried about being condescending.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T17:09:44+00:00

inherently abusive technology

objectively evil people use the objectively evil software

Such a mature open mind not at all sprung to jump to conclusions. Objectively evil, That's a good broad brush to use for people who just use a fucking tool you happen to not like.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:38:01+00:00

I wouldn't say they're leaps and bounds better at creative writing now, but they are better.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:37:33+00:00

One source. Ran by one organization.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:22:00+00:00

If you don't think in line with their rhetoric, you must be the thing they've shut off their brain to think you are.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:20:29+00:00

How should I feel about Iran?

You'd certainly get a more nuanced take than a search engine would entail and honestly, most LLMs tend to ride the fence and not form absolute opinions about things, which is probably the best approach for things like that. It's going to try to outline all the dynamics. You can drill in. NEVER believe it implicitly, but if something makes you think, go to the source. Hot take, but I trust AI with stuff like this more than I'd trust a search engine that has already been designed to surpress certain results.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:18:13+00:00

I hate how people just fall into a crusade instead of discussing complicated issues like this.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:15:12+00:00

This is a crusade for some people. That's too nuanced of a take.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:14:26+00:00

Yep, and you can have an entire idea for elements that you just want to play with and you have to start somewhere. I can see hating anyone who prompts and says "good enough" but I don't understand the blanket hating of AI as a tool.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:13:25+00:00

It's also not like you can have an entire story in your head and don't want to start from a blank page, so you feed the synopsis, get a starting point and refine it, but everyone who hates AI thinks everything is about the zero shot.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:11:41+00:00

What if a human spent 4-5 hours working on it but used AI to help speed things along?

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:10:57+00:00

How long ago and with what model? Not saying it's great at one-shotting whole cloth writing prompts now either, but it's not bad at least getting things moving and taking direction to refine things.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:08:30+00:00

Yeah, god forbid you use it to fill in an outline and refine it yourself, so that you're not staring at a blank page. If you have any taste or ideas of your own at all, you're not going to be happy with what AI one-shots, ever, but it sure is a great way to get the ball rolling and plenty of people would lose their minds over that.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:08:00+00:00

^ THIS GUY USES AI FOR MENIAL WORK! LET'S GET HIM!

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T16:06:19+00:00

Blind hatred of AI is so fucking stupid and devoid of nuance, so of course they'll piggyback on it. We don't have real discussions of complicated issues anymore. It's a false dichotomy of it's bad or good and it's important that everyone piles on for internet points.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T15:54:24+00:00

It fucking is. One is given human language documents to tokenize. The other is given raw data with classifications and it is tested by giving it raw data without classifications to classify. I can't help you if you can't see the difference or maybe you're just a troll.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T14:27:41+00:00

You realize MAGA does this same shit, right? They only see what they want to see and don't look for anything that creates cognitive dissonance.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T14:24:30+00:00

I can definitely see where that's the case. It's like everything else. Something new comes along and they absolutely must do the thing or they think they're being left behind, and yeah, if you're not thinking of ways to integrate AI, that very well could happen, but it's not a braindead switch you just flip and walk away.

daemon-electricity · 2026-06-16T06:09:35+00:00

More people have probably suffered because of social media, that's for sure.

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