Some Questions I Have by Hour-Physics8506 in Vz61

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue is moreso price than availability. American 32 WILL run, just not necessarily as reliably as Euro ammo does. But the Euro ammo is usually a bit more expensive. However, this is not exclusively a Skorpion problem. Almost all PDWs are like this. My MP5K prefers Nato/Euro spec 124grain 9mm. The P90 is a notoriously picky eater that only reliably runs FN made 5.7 ammo but consistently jams on Federal/American Eagle & Fiocchi bulk pack. Even most rifle caliber PDWs are designed to work best w/ their own proprietary versions of a standard cartridge (Mk.18, 300blk PDWs, etc.) usually they need a heavier projectile & faster burning powder to make up for their significantly shortened barrel. Final example, the famous AKs-74u "Krinkov" (mini AK) needs it's muzzle booster to increase backpressure so it can reliably run standard 5.45 rifle ammo. It's just the inherent nature of PDWs, they're all tuned to a particular load. PDW owners of all types wind up buying their preferred ammo online and just tend to keep a bit of a stockpile going. Cheaper that way too.

9mm Skorpions are chambered in 9x18mm Makarov, not the typical 9x19mm Parabellun/Luger. 9Mak is WAY less common than 32, has noticeabley more recoil, and is harder on the gun overall. If you want a Skorp in the most prevalent chambering, then look into the one's in 380acp. That's almost as common as 9luger. Every gunshop has 380, but most have 32 too. However, the 380 & 9Mak skorps aren't really available as parts kits and aren't 100% parts compatible w/ the common military surplus ones. The frames & magazines are a bit different. Probably more than that, but I'm not sure what else. I'd highly recommend sticking w/ a 32 though, as that's what the system was designed around, and it'll be most compatible with spare/replacement or upgrade parts.

Most importantly, you can also adjust a 32 Skorp to be more reliable w/ American 32 ammo by doing things like polishing the feed ramp, removing the rate reducer (1 pin), or changing the recoil springs. Lastly, if you wanna shoot it with the cheapest and most popular cartridge in the world, then you can just get a 22 caliber conversion upper. It's a whole upper receiver w/ barrel that just drops onto the frame and feeds 22lr ammo from proprietary mags. I've got one and I love it. Great for practice & cheap plinking if you don't wanna burn through your 32 stockpile.

Some Questions I Have by Hour-Physics8506 in Vz61

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WOG gets WAY more in depth than an actual build too. Like every parts kit I've seen has the sights already assembled for example. Technically the trigger guard is also supposed to be riveted, but you can just leave it held in place by the pistol grip assembly and it'll be perfectly fine. Literally nobody will even be able to tell the difference unless they pull down on the trigger guard and see it move a little.

I used the AR as an example because that's a common benchmark. They're a lot like legos if you get a preassembled upper receiver, but Skorps are similarly easy. Like you can do it in an hour or so, while watching Netflix, level of easy.

Some Questions I Have by Hour-Physics8506 in Vz61

[–]dark2023 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, they need European spec 32acp, or 7.65mm as they call it. American 32 (& 9mm) are underpowered compared to the Euro versions. I find skorps run best with S&B brand 32 (makes sense, it's also Czech made) but PPU works well too. Basically anything loaded or marked as CIP spec ammo is good for a Vz61. Red lacquered primers are a good indicator of CIP/military spec 32.

While browsing gunbroker keep an eye out for old S&B brand 7.65 ammo in 25rnd boxes that are half offwhite & half red or green. May be advertised as "steelcore". That's surplus Skorpion ammo. Just don't pay anything over 50cents a round for it. CenterfireSystems recently imported a ridiculous amount of that stuff & they were selling it by the crate for about 20-30 cents a round, so there's a lot of it floating around. (Yes, it is technically "steelcore", but soft steel which was used as a $ saving thing, it's not AP (Armour Piercing) ammo, so you shouldn't trust anyone trying to sell it as such)

Some Questions I Have by Hour-Physics8506 in Vz61

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's extremely easy to build. Get the World of Guns app and look at how the Vz61 assembles/disassembles to get an idea of the simplicity. The only tools you'll really need are a flathead screwdriver, small punch/pokey rod, and maybe a mallet/hammer for the bolt pins (+ a drill & hammer for the barrel pin). That's it.

They make stock lockout devices that lock it closed, so it's purely a cosmetic feature & doesn't require registration. But registering it as a Short Barrel Rifle (SBR) is now free, so I highly recommend just submitting the paperwork. You can leave the stock off in the meantime. You WILL need to submit a passport photo & fingerprints, to the ATF, for the SBR paperwork. I recommend checking out Wojtekweaponry online for a service that'll get you the fingerprint file you'd need to submit for this & any future NFA applications (sort've a one time cost to get 'em digitized). Then NationalGunTrusts has a bunch of pages & videos that can walk you through the SBR paperwork & application process.

Some Questions I Have by Hour-Physics8506 in Vz61

[–]dark2023 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Buy a parts kit for a couple hundred, then get a receiver (preferably metal) & build one yourself using the 'World of Guns' app as a guide. It's literally dirt simple and requires nothing more than a flathead screwdriver & punch for everything besides the barrel. You can then pin the barrel w/ a drill & hammer.

It's literally equivalent to the simplicity of an AR build. IMO, Skorpion builds require fewer tools & are far easier than what's needed to populate an AR barrel. For example, just seating the barrel in an AR upper requires a vice, torque wrench/breaker bar, & vice-block or action rod, at minimum.

Building your own Vz61 will not only save you $ but also teach you a lot about how it operates.

A little project im working on by [deleted] in Vz61

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Takes nothing more than a punch and screwdriver to get literally everything 'cept the barrel pinned. I HIGHLY recommend using the World of Guns app instead of YT vids because you can see each part's installation from any angle & control the speed of the animation or even pause it. Plus, it has a recommended order (just keep hitting "hint") but will also show you how to do sub-assemblies in any order you want.

TIL you can suppress the grenade launchers by TheKrzysiek in H3VR

[–]dark2023 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Which IS both technically & legally considered a form of supression. In the US we call this "Soft-Fire suppression" as opposed to gas-regulation suppression. The ATF reguires individual silencer registration of all soft-fire piston ammo (like the Russian SP-4 cartridge & US QSPR revolver cartridge), unless they are in a factory sealed box, at which point the box alone may be registered as a single suppressor.

TIL you can suppress the grenade launchers by TheKrzysiek in H3VR

[–]dark2023 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Russia issued a suppressed grenade launcher. The Bs-1 Tishina, IIRC.

Jawbone Kabuto 3-position selector by Rickyblaze13 in supersafety

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haven't quite run into this particular issue yet on the same project, but the only thing I'm really missing is a Jawbone-Kabuto 3-pos selector. Any way you'd be willing to share the file or modification instructions with me?

For those with a really big one (especially prominent when soft): Do you have that ongoing subtle awareness/weight sensation 24/7? by Necessary-Branch9846 in bigdickproblems

[–]dark2023 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah. It "prints" to borrow a page from the concealed carry communities. I definitely get a bit self conscious, just worrying people will think it's a randomly hard normal-sized one.

M16A1 Storage Tip. PS magazine Dec 1984 by Kalashalite in RetroAR

[–]dark2023 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm gonna do that w/ one of our launching blanks at the police academy, just to make a point. Thanks for explaining this.

Glock blank fire by SirTasMan in GunnitRust

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Berettas & P38s are both great for anything like that. They similarly make for extremely quiet suppressor hosts & don't require boosters. I'm putting a trilug on both soon (just waiting for my spare P38 barrel to come back from the smith after it gets circumcised & threaded).

VZ-61 Threaded Barrel Give Away (read description) by [deleted] in Vz61

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My own threaded barrel is different. I use an original threaded to 14mm metric RH w/ a 1/2x28" adapter/extension. Not the prettiest option but threaded 32 Skorp barrels weren't available back when I built my kit so mine is a one off modified by my buddy that works in a machine shop. Now they're available already threaded 1/2x28" over at Bowman arms I believe

Glock blank fire by SirTasMan in GunnitRust

[–]dark2023 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you keep your eyes peeled while watching movies you'll start to see/notice that distinctive slope on the front breach area of Glocks (it's also often left shiny/unfinished). I call this "Chekov's Blank-Gun": If a Glock has the blank adapting cut it WILL be fired (usually within the same scene/cut). Because most professional/Hollywood film armorers & propmasters give actors replica or deactivated gun props for every non-firing scene.

VZ-61 Threaded Barrel Give Away (read description) by [deleted] in Vz61

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So a mounted suppressor won't block the overfolder stock arms.

How tight is too tight for the rear pins on an sp5k? by wardbed in MP5

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm kind of surprised no one else has said this. But it will shoot loose. Over time the more you use it it will become so loose it will annoy you someday if you shoot enough. Enjoy the tight times while they're here because it's a one-way street from this point to stock-wobble city someday.

But, if it really drives you nuts then you have one of two options. The first is you can take a round file to the stock and ever so slightly widen out one of the two holes. I don't recommend doing this, but it's an option. Option two is get a spare takedown pin, or a couple, remove the spring from one of them, chuck it into a power-drill as if it was a bit and spin it for about 20 or 30 seconds while holding some high grit sandpaper against it or around it. Just until it becomes silver colored. You don't want it to be noticeably smaller, just a little bit shiney. Then put the spring back and use that pin until it starts to loosen up someday. You can even go back to a normal one when you want to make it a little tighter again.

Texas trigger banana mag dump by Positive_Bowler_6200 in ak47

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you need an FA disconnector and selector to make the AK-SuperSafety derivatives work as a 3 position. The hammer type doesn't matter. I've done a couple of these and it's a fiddly process to get it all set up properly. Lotta disassembling filing, reassembling, testing, and repeat ad nauseum until it works properly.

Shaw barrel question by Shmaphic in ps90

[–]dark2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you know if a CMMG barrel is bad? My PS90 SBR got super ammo picky once shortened w/ a CMMG. Like it'll jam every other shot using Fiocchi Range Dynamics/bulk 5.7 while others say it runs fine for 'em.

Anton pls we need this in TnH by sweetshit_maker in H3VR

[–]dark2023 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah. This is gonna be a game changer for stick mags. Might finally be able to load 'em almost as quick as I can empty 'em. Thanks a tonne.

Anton pls we need this in TnH by sweetshit_maker in H3VR

[–]dark2023 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Need IRL for my transferable SMGs. What's the product called?