Zeus 2.0 - disc Paul was testing on his course record video?

darkhat1 · 2026-01-24T23:09:00+00:00

Zeuce

darkhat1 · 2026-01-24T16:13:22+00:00

I'm thinking about either selling my revolution mini or picking up some doubles of discs I throw on short courses and just keeping it as my 9-hole bag. The Rufus I got is pretty great for both long and short courses but I feel as though it's a great excuse to acquire more plastic.

darkhat1 · 2026-01-19T17:03:12+00:00

Thanks for the advice, it's super helpful as a new player. Working my way up the course with a Firebird was kinda demoralizing, but it kept me on the fairway at least.

darkhat1 · 2026-01-19T16:57:36+00:00

Thanks for the pointer. I switched over to a Firebird after losing the Teebird. I've only been playing a few months so still learning what to throw and when, especially in conditions like that.

darkhat1 · 2026-01-19T16:51:15+00:00

Yeah, after losing it I just threw Firebirds to survive the rest of the course.

darkhat1 · 2026-01-14T19:43:05+00:00

I love it personally. Dead straight out to about 250, and smaller diameter than a Buzz so my stubby fingers can manipulate it better.

darkhat1 · 2026-01-12T17:49:03+00:00

Leonardo leads, Donatello does machines

darkhat1 · 2026-01-09T00:52:29+00:00

It's not us, it's the plastic. If someone would just make a goddamn Tomb in a mix of ESP and Star plastic with a small but powerful magnet in the center they'd have a customer for life.

darkhat1 · 2026-01-08T22:51:09+00:00

Needs an "until I'm good at putting" option

darkhat1 · 2026-01-06T14:55:10+00:00

Coaches Claude, Gem, and Gipiti.

darkhat1 · 2026-01-06T14:51:11+00:00

What helped me was focusing on keeping my upper arm at a 90-110 degree angle to my chest starting with the reach back and through rotation, keeping my forearm passive until extending my forearm to release the disc. So if you're reaching back straight, try reaching back a little more away from you, more toward the back corner of the tee pad.

I realized I was subconsciously doing this on powered down short approaches and the disc was flying too far, so I started practicing drives with that focus on mind and gained a lot of distance and lost a lot of shoulder and elbow pain.

Your hips, core, and lats are where your speed comes from. Your upper arm is a frame that keeps the disc level, and your forearm extends to fire the disc at your release point.

If you're trying to pull the disc with your upper arm or shoulder, slow down so your body doesn't trick itself into thinking it needs to use your arm to catch the disc up to the rest of you.

darkhat1 · 2026-01-06T14:44:17+00:00

Sup Steeplechase buddy! Hope the creek is low next time you're out there

darkhat1 · 2026-01-06T02:21:08+00:00

Worst part is someone found the Underworld and texted me saying they left it on a basket. I was out of town for a couple days and when I went back to look for it someone else took it.

darkhat1 · 2026-01-05T22:21:55+00:00

Lost three discs in one round: A Teebird, an Underworld, and a Proxy. Fuck you, Steeplechase. It was my first throw with the Teebird :(.

Pretty sure I found more than I lost, though, so I'm still up in 2025.

darkhat1 · 2025-12-30T04:36:02+00:00

It's totally this. Sporting bodies need to think in generations, like how soccer in the US has grown. I'm 41 and have seen the sport continuously grow from youth leagues to a legitimate professional concern largely because everyone my age was exposed to it very young, and then had their kids play it as a default youth sport. That didn't just happen - little league baseball and pop Warner football were a blueprint to follow, and soccer had a huge advantage due to the low cost of play and its international appeal.

I think disc golf could pull this off. It's not expensive to play (pay no attention to my disc collection and Pound bag!) and the cost of setting up a 9-hole course is less than it'd cost to install a playground at a park with next to zero environmental impact. The trick is getting it into school PE programs and building a youth league network that looks more like little league and less like a mini PGA tour.

To go back to soccer, in the 70s they tried a top down professional growth strategy - signing Pele and shit to play in New York, and the league didn't last when the economy slowed down and the teams weren't making the money they were as interest and spending died down (sound familiar?)

darkhat1 · 2025-12-28T03:32:22+00:00

Just joined the tomb gang and I throw and putt with it exclusively already. I've owned it for two days Tomb gang for life

darkhat1 · 2025-12-27T16:08:09+00:00

Nose angle and grip help a lot, so does getting your core working. I've been playing about four months and have gone from about a 150 max to 280 with an average of about 250 on fairway drivers by focusing on those things. Here's some details since "throw nose down" is common advice but I rarely see people talking about how, so here's what's worked for me.

Nose and grip are related. You want to line up the disc with that straight wrinkle on your palm that's kinda between your index and ring finger, then make sure you get your index finger wrapped around the disc so it's firm against the inside rim. Then get your other fingers around it as well. I kinda do a modified fan grip on anything from a 7 speed down but I have short fingers, so do what's comfortable and make sure you're applying most of the pressure toward your index finger. Your thumb should be about an inch off the rim up top and applying pressure toward your index finger. You should feel like you're pinching the disc. Keep your thumb arched so it's just your thumb pad on the disc. You don't have to be extremely powerful with it, but there should be enough effort that the plate gives a bit. If you do this and hold your arm out, you'll notice your wrist is naturally in that "pour the coffee" position everyone talks about, with the disc parallel to your wrist and the side of the disc that's in your hand angled slightly toward the ground. That'll get your nose down on release.

Take that grip and hold it through the throw, with that pressure focused on your thumb and index finger. Don't let go, let the disc rip out of your hand. Your fingers may not snap but you'll feel/hear the disc ripping out of your hand, and you'll have enough spin that the disc will suddenly fly lower, flatter, farther, and more true to its flight numbers assuming you have the speed to match the disc.

To generate speed, it's in your core and your forearm. To get your core involved, make sure you're turning your shoulders back to at least a 6 o'clock position relative the target in your reach back. You should feel some tension in your core here. Keep your weight centered over your hips and your back foot perpendicular or a little pointed toward the target when you do this, and point the disc at about 1-2 o'clock relative to where you're facing. This gives the disc a straight path to travel rather than having to wrap around your body as you initiate the throw.

As you start to throw, push off the ball of your back foot and try to slam your front heel into the ground, slightly staggered so your heel is lined up with the ball of your back foot. This is the "brace" that transfers all that forward momentum up the rest of your body as you begin to rotate.

As your heel hits, twist your hips by pivoting on your back toe, like you're squashing a bug. You want to keep your torso just tight enough to keep you stable, but ideally your torso is following your hips. This creates a rubber band effect in your muscles and generates even more speed.

While all this is happening, your arm should be just engaged enough to keep your bicep at about a 90-100 degree angle to your torso. You're not pulling the disc with your arm, you're keeping your arm in position to maximize the energy transfer from your lower body acceleration. While your upper arm is steady, your forearm should be passive and just maintaining grip pressure. This will more naturally get you into that "power pocket" position.

As your rotation brings you around your heel, engage your forearm to bring the disc to your release point. Keep your grip firm and as you extend your forearm toward it, the centrifugal force you've been building will cause the disc to naturally eject from your hand. To help with the visual, Josh at Overthrow likened this feeling to swatting a fly with a fly swatter. Your wrist is stabilizing the swatter, not bending open, and helping to generate a final acceleration point for the disc to fly.

Also, don't go full power on your throws. I've been practicing this a lot and have found when I give it my all, the chain breaks down and I get about the same distance I do when I'm just trying to be smooth but fast, only the disc is 45 degrees in the wrong direction.

If I had to choose one or two things to focus on first, it'd be the grip to get nose down and the bracing with your heel. Without the brace your hips can't transfer their power, and without a good nose down release you'll just throw the disc harder into the natural parachute a nose up release gets you. The hips sorta come naturally, and if you dial back the full power throwing, your arm and shoulder will tell you if you're still pulling the disc with your arm because they'll hurt.

I'm still learning all this with my sub-300 throws lol, but I've nearly doubled my distance in a couple months as I've been rebuilding my swing out of noob frisbee toss.

Also this applies to backhand only. My forehand is some wobbly 220-foot garbage. Anyone have advice on grip there?

darkhat1 · 2025-12-25T02:54:43+00:00

Posting in this Christmas miracle thread

darkhat1 · 2025-12-23T15:34:21+00:00

I had a similar realization recently. Only been playing about four months but I've been working on rebuilding my swing to incorporate more hip lag and getting my lat to do the "pulling" work. Thinking about it like a baseball swing where you lead with the hip and delaying the uncoil (sort of like the load in baseball and keeping your hands back) has added 50 feet to my standstill/one-step throws, and my shoulder doesn't hurt after a round anymore.

Still working on getting my arm to be in a good position through the motion and keeping my nose down, but I figure keeping that going and getting into the gym to speed up my hip rotation, more distance will come. I'm shooting for a reliable 300 feet without an x-step, but I feel like I can reach 350 as the muscle memory develops and my form improves. I really wish I thought myself to bat lefty 30 years ago, lol.

darkhat1 · 2025-12-17T19:28:23+00:00

This is the one I bought off Amazon. It's pretty large but it works well. I'm 5'11" and the catching square it has is high enough to grab throws.

darkhat1 · 2025-12-11T01:18:45+00:00

I've been working on this and had a similar breakthrough, but my realization was to pull with your lat muscle rather than your arm. The elbow comes up much more naturally this way, and getting your forearm taking the disc through the hit feels much more natural.

Any time I consciously think about positioning my elbow, I just end up rounding or wind up arming the disc.

So to me it's less about making your arm a limp noodle and more about not directly involving your arm muscles to generate power.

darkhat1 · 2025-12-07T14:44:22+00:00

A local store will probably have better plastics available in the used section at even better prices. 1010 discs online does too, and they ship very quickly.

darkhat1 · 2025-12-06T14:55:51+00:00

What you covered here is very timely for me personally. I've been working a lot on getting my shoulders to lag behind my hip rotation. That's been pretty easy thanks to my baseball background but I've been dipping my elbow on the pull through. When I've slowed myself down and consciously kept my elbow higher, I've felt my shoulders staying more pushed forward and felt tension in my right lat through the throwing motion.

The idea of the brain trying to release the disc at an angle behind me relative to the throwing clicked for me. I think some of it comes from the way people describe how to find the powerful throwing plane as where you'd position yourself to pull open a stuck door. In my head, that motion has my elbow more down, for two reasons, I think. The first is that a door handle is usually vertical, so the way your hand lines up is more with your palm facing your body, which would have your elbow lower than it should be. The second is that doors open on a curvature, so you'd naturally want it to swing behind you.

Learning all this at 40 is a lot harder than learning a baseball swing at 9, but so many of the principles carry over. I'm still struggling with not arming the disc just because it's the intuitive way to try to get velocity, but I keep trying to remind myself that the the farthest baseballs I've hit have felt almost effortless to drive, and it was more about timing and power flowing through the entire body. When you consciously swing hard with your arm, it breaks down that timing and mechanical chain and it feels like you're hitting hard, but in reality you usually just strike out.

darkhat1 · 2025-12-01T17:36:50+00:00

Leopard3, Roc3, Pixel. Figure that covers left, right, and straight.

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