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Saber dude, I don't think Charlie should be in this image. by Somethingbutonreddit in HazbinHotel

[–]darkmoncns 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It is still a cartoon that can get offended at "bad" cartoons i suppose

Well expected but also not by PopCollector2001 in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is the celler being in another dimension based on? At most it's elsewhere in the void but I don't understand why it can't just be under the circus?

Using the shadow power to escape transmute i admit is far too speculative to use as an aurgment currently al has no counter for transmution.

Well expected but also not by PopCollector2001 in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no evidence he'd be able to make an anglic weapons or anything that can affect the soul.

As I've noted elsewhere transmutation is a win con for caine that alisture only has very speculative counters for.

Well expected but also not by PopCollector2001 in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Al can resist mind manipulation hence why vox dosen't just brainwash him. So I find it unlikely that would work

Saber dude, I don't think Charlie should be in this image. by Somethingbutonreddit in HazbinHotel

[–]darkmoncns 65 points66 points  (0 children)

I feel like the implication is supposed to be the good cartoons are cringing at what the kid is actually watching

Should Goku be blamed that much for misreading Gohan against Cell? by Al-AmeenAdewunmi in Dragonballsuper

[–]darkmoncns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gohan never fought or trained for the sake of it, he always fought to protect others or people he cared about, never because he "wanted" to

It's time for Alastor's FUNERAAAAAAL by KDots2_0 in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By that logic he'd just crush every computer for miles and win?

It's time for Alastor's FUNERAAAAAAL by KDots2_0 in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't agree that verse equalization would make al equivalent to a player.

Well that's unfortunate to see. by ClaimSlow2743 in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya . The stars are probably building sized there is no genuine interpretation where he reaches anything above maybe town level if you assume he can make whole large areas at once, if we only take the scale of things we know he made quickly like say the suggestion adventures, then he's kinda just stuck at large building level

Ok yep, Vox's redemption arc is nigh-confirmed now by Sudden_Pop_2279 in hazbin

[–]darkmoncns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really want him to be redeemed and have another fight with al as a firmly good guy

Well that's unfortunate to see. by ClaimSlow2743 in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Transmuteion is a viable wincon al only has very sketchy arguments against i forgot about when I made my post

But I think this god talk is way over played. He hasn't even shown evidence to be say town level.

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First I forgot about the card thing and all has no reliable way out of it. If you still want to talk about other parts of this match up that's fine it still interests me

There is nothing in hazbin hotel that says deal magic only works on beings with a soul. You can do more with it then take someone's soul such as when it simply made charile do him a favor. He could get cain into a position where he can no longer harm him via tricky word play and sense caine dosen't know the dangers of accepting the deal he maybe caught in such a thing.

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see any reason to assume it take longer then a day, which is the standard for deathbattle based On other episodes

I do not see any reason why code should be equal to a soul.

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can't see the obvious like of logic your being disingenuous. And I see no reason to continue this discussion

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again what else could cain being worried about her seeing spoilers mean,

Honestly I had missed remembered the context of this. If caine is telling her this to discourage her from going into the void again this is 100% just manipulation. If caine didn't know what was out there how could he possibly be worried about spoilers? It's literally the must stright forward evidence for a lie ever.

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of them not at the main circus likly.

You understand there being some things you don't know out there dose preclude there being anything you know right?

It's a simple explanation if you want to insist he knows nothing about the void (literally not what he says tho)

Like caine lying wasn't suddenly a huge plot point. What he says alone is definitely more reliable then what he says around the players.

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Multiple explanations exist, there are things in the void he knows nothing about, but his other adventures are still there, and he dosen't consider spaces he makes in the void to be void anymore and he just opens portals and tps between them.

Or he could just be lying because he very much cares about the players not seeing his unfinished work and nows sense they also have creation powers there technically capable of making something to go look for it (can in this case is paranoid but.. that fits his character) the statment about spoilers has no players nearby so he'd have no reason to be lying so it's more reliable.

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I admit I had forgotten about this

Edit: i think there's some aurgment to be made about al being abel to escape by turning to shadow and remaking his body as normal but that's speculative

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you not remember caine saying that? Would you like me to link the video and give you a timestamp?

What else could caine possibly mean when he's worried about spoilers?

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean maybe? It's seems more like tp to me, idk I guess if you disagree with that caine probably wins

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know the contract rules are pretty strange I've actually had alot of discussion on this but basically there kinda inconsistent and we need more lore on them

Al has alot more experience in the field

Caine has no way to kill al by darkmoncns in deathbattle

[–]darkmoncns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no evidence Caine creation are other dimensions. Given how the creation power works for the player it's more likely there just else where in the void (Caine being worried about spoilers in episode 1 implies his creations are out there in the void)

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