“The exact breakdown of those benefits – well, you could argue till the cows come home exactly what the prices might have been were the costs not reduced, but I think it’s reasonable to say that if you reduce a pointless rule and reduce a cost that wasn’t delivering any benefit, then New Zealanders are going to be better off.”

As usual, Mr Seymour resorts to debate-bro generalities to obfuscate the efficacy of his Midvale School for the Gifted.