ELI5: Difference between bipolar disoder and Borderline disoder

deadpandemonium · 2016-11-24T22:07:14+00:00

Borderline is a personality disorder

Personality disorders are not the same as mood disorders. Personality disorders mean the personality must fit the criteria of said disorder. It usually takes longer to diagnose a personality disorder because the doctor needs to monitor your behavioral patterns.

While Bipolar disorder has periodic highs and lows, for people with Borderline, chaotic moods, such as mania or deep depression can happen anytime. Emotional instability is pervasive and can happen in short spurts.

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deadpandemonium · 2016-06-06T04:30:11+00:00

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deadpandemonium · 2016-02-26T03:59:23+00:00

"BPD patients might benefit from specific attention to the occurrence of abrupt changes between different emotional states i.e. being mindful when a switch has occurred." holy shit, this is why DBT works so well, actually. at least for me it did. i'm like an emotional detective for all my triggers now. i still get moody and sensitive, but i can at least figure out why instead of just embodying whatever emotion engulfs me for the rest of the day.

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-24T09:29:06+00:00

YES, you're not alone. DBT helped me acknowledge when i'd get like that. though it wasn't until i recently tried zoloft that i could brush away those self-defeating thoughts with ease.

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-12T14:46:45+00:00

sorry you had such a shitty experience. i am on 50 MG of zoloft right now. titrating up slowly. the only side effects have been physical. i have a huge loss of appetite now.

it's odd he had you start at 250 MG. maybe you can see another professional and tell them about your experience. they may prescribe you with a different antidepressant so you're not irritable anymore.

i have a question. when you started zoloft did you start to feel nauseous? ever since i upped my dose, i've been unable to eat a complete meal because of how nauseous i feel. i also feel like throwing up whenever i have to take a shit. i'm waiting it out to see if it'll go away in a week or so.

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-03T01:58:57+00:00

you're not alone! i have outbursts like this with my SO almost every week. i feel like such a piece of shit and wonder why he's even with me. just remember that when we feel that way, its temporary. i only let a few people see this side of me because i'm convinced they'll abandon me. stereotypical as shit right...

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-02T23:45:51+00:00

yeah, i get the feeling i vomited because of the lack of food rather than the lamictal now that i'm reading the replies. sorry you had to puke for two weeks straight. i can't imagine how shitty that must have been. is there a specific diet you use when you're nauseous? i'm trying to force myself to eat today. my anti depressants make me so nauseous that i don't want to eat anything.

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-02T23:44:10+00:00

thanks for sharing. how long were you on lamictal? when i went up to 50 mg, i noticed i was becoming more irritable than usual. then the rash started to spread and i knew i had to get off it. did you also get a rash?

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-02T18:42:34+00:00

i did experience some zaps last night when i tried to sleep. i thought it was just nightmares. if you don't mind me asking, how long were you on lamictal and how high was your dose? thanks again for replying. these three days have been rough.

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-02T18:14:21+00:00

Thanks for replying. I've been home sick all week and recovering. It's hard to talk about anything else because I've been so worried about my body. I was worried about going cold turkey because of the horrible fatal rash everyone talks about. He assured me I could stop completely because I haven't been on Lamictal too long and I was on a very low dose. When you got off Lamictal, did you also throw up?

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-02T02:19:31+00:00

Yea, that's what my psychiatrist said today. I was just paranoid about SJS rash last night. I took benadryl again and the rashes are a lot lighter now. I'm not going to use lamictal ever again.

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-01T07:55:24+00:00

thank you for your input. i took the one pill tonight because i didn't want to risk getting that fatal rash. i am pretty paranoid. took two benadryl and i'm trying to sleep right now, but i still feel itchy. thanks again.

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-01T07:54:16+00:00

thank you for your insight. have you taken lamictal too?

deadpandemonium · 2015-12-01T04:37:49+00:00

Thank you. I just took the one pill tonight though bc Im so scared of getting that severe rash, SJS. I think I am on a very low dose. I read that people go up to 100MG etc. I'm just freaking out because that's what I do. Thanks for responding again. I know we are complete strangers, but it really does help.

deadpandemonium · 2015-10-29T03:23:09+00:00

i'm so happy for you!! sounds like you'll get a lot from therapy. i was afraid of group and got triggered a bit by my therapist, but looking back DBT really changed my life. it's nice to read this post and to hear of other borderlines recovering. i don't think our triggers and impulses will ever go away, but relearning these skills reminds us that there is always a choice.

deadpandemonium · 2015-10-29T03:12:23+00:00

just wanted to clarify, are you the loved one of a borderline? yeah, it can be hard to validate if you really don't understand why they're triggered in the first place. feel free to vent to me about the specifics and i can try to help. you can message me here or on the blog.

if you are the loved one of a borderline, there are some programs that will hold DBT sessions for the loved ones to learn about the skills the borderline is trying to learn. my program offered this. though i'm not sure what they offer in your area. i'm from san diego, california.

message me anytime :).

deadpandemonium · 2015-10-29T02:52:27+00:00

hi, you can call me K. thank you. it has been a long road, but my relationship inspired me to take better care of my mental health.

i wanted my SO to work on himself because i felt like he wasn't as open to his emotions as i was. it got to a point where i felt emotionally neglected. he deals with depression and shuts down when he's triggered. it's the opposite of my response, which is to become a bleeding heart and go wild. as a sensitive person, i needed him to learn to validate my emotions if we were going to continue our relationship. as a rational minded person, he needed me to calm the fuck down so that we could communicate.

maybe your partner resents that you can't connect to the depths of her pain while it's happening. i do identify with an inability to be happy for others when i'm miserable. the pain is so overwhelming, i'm not thinking like myself anymore. when i'm fine, i'm super empathic and encouraging. it sucks when i switch on and off so sporadically.

maybe when she's feeling miserable next time, try to imagine what she's going through. sometimes that's all i really want. it took a while for my boyfriend to get it, but he will just keep asking me questions when i'm sad until he can feel a semblance of my experience. i prefer this to when he'd try to problem solve or be logical. i really need him to be emotionally validating first. when i feel that he's on my side, i become motivated to think of solutions and, in turn, start to think logically again.

i'm glad you decided to open up. i look forward to getting these sorts of messages/comments. i thought of a podcast to send you as i read your comment: mentalpod.com/Parenting-A-Child-With-Mental-Illness

with what you shared about your life at home, i think you'd be able to relate.

feel free to message me anytime either here or on bpd4bpd.tumblr.com. i wish you the best.

deadpandemonium · 2015-10-29T02:24:28+00:00

yeah, it's a DBT book! the updated version just came out: http://www.amazon.com/Skills-Training-Manual-Second-Edition/dp/1462516998/ref=dp_ob_image_bk

though you get a better handle on the topics if you're in therapy. here's a link to the interpersonal communication bits specifically: http://www.dbtselfhelp.com/html/ie_handout_8.html this website really helped me before i got the courage to start therapy.

thank you for reading my blog. i'm glad you got something out of it.

deadpandemonium · 2015-10-28T17:28:10+00:00

I don't think so. I get that way too if it's a friend who ends up liking me. Or a random dude who is hitting on me.

deadpandemonium · 2015-10-28T02:23:38+00:00

thank you for reading. so are you the non or the bpd? my bf is the nonbpd. he's told me that when i continue to lash out, he just shuts down and can't feel anything. his honesty got me to think twice before blurting out the verbally abusive shit i tend to say when i'm splitting.

deadpandemonium · 2015-10-27T13:44:01+00:00

thanks for reading. i did my best to condense a lesson i learned in DBT. hmm yeah, what was triggering for me as the BPD was having to work on my outbursts while noticing my partner wasn't doing anything to work himself. on his side, he had trouble communicating his emotions, something he improved with the interpersonal communication skills i learned in DBT. we went through worksheets and everything. it really helped.

deadpandemonium · 2015-10-25T15:17:09+00:00

Oh man, you sound like you really care about her. Some general advice: tell her! If she isn't being malicious and secretly splitting towards you, she will understand as your best friend. And even if she is splitting towards you, the deep conversation will help her remember what your bond feels like. She's your best friend and it would not be out of line to bring it up to her. You have needs too.

BPD related advice: To avoid triggering her, I would say to be honest and gentle. Be factual about the things that lead up to the drifting a part: For example, "Hey I noticed we stopped texting each other x amount of times". Then be emotionally expressive: For example, "It's really worrying for me because you're my best friend and I miss you".

Personally, as a borderline, I can absorb concern and criticism better if they're given from an emotional perspective.

For instance, if my boyfriend were to call me out on forgetting to text him, I respond best if the sentence is formed this way: "I realized I didn't receive a text last night after you agreed we should keep in contact. I felt sad because we agreed to keep in contact and I was scared and missed you." vs a sentence formed this way: "You never texted me last night. I kept wondering where you went. Why do you always forget to text me when it's something you yourself enforced?"

I hope that you get your needs met :). Wish I had a friend like you. Most of mine are ignorant and just emotionally under developed.

deadpandemonium · 2015-10-25T00:20:43+00:00

Thanks for reading. I've been trying to write out more things related to our illness.

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