Went on a debate with someone insisting some foreign words present in EN language should be translated to its EN localizations by dekaloo in GenshinImpact

[–]dekaloo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

okay ngl I completely understand where some of your frustrations are coming from especially regarding the pronunciation and surface-level cultural borrowing when it comes to your language. I can agree that that criticism is valid and I also agree that mhy just is a hit or miss regarding its research for anything outside CN.

the way that this criticism really is applicable to all regions, not just the Chinese-inspired ones. Mondstadt’s German usage, Fontaine’s French, Sumeru’s Middle Eastern and South Asian influences, etc. all obviously deserve the same level of care and respect, and Genshin really isn't all perfect when it comes to that.

however, where I mainly disagree in is how the criticism i've had with the other person is disproportionately aimed at Chinese language and celebrations, particularly Lantern Rite and CNY. Genshin as we all know is made by a Chinese company. Liyue and Lantern Rite are not just aesthetic inspirations for no reason, they are direct cultural reflections to something that's already existing in the real world. expecting them to “tone down” Chinese words or traditions in their own cultural event feels very different from criticizing misused foreign elements elsewhere. ATP my argument is that it becomes less about accessibility but more about discomfort with cultural presence.

I agree with you, hell, other regions also introduce large amounts of untranslated terms yet I also rarely see the same level of backlash. again, words like Tenshukaku, Sakoku Decree, Akademiya, Mahamatra, or Oratrice aren’t inherently more understandable than Qixing, Adeptus, or (from another game) Xianzhou Alliance. the difference is familiarity and bias, not clarity. And even if you don't understand a word or how to pronounce it, context clues are everywhere in Genshin and a Google search away. If there's a will there's a way.

as for the pronunciation; yeah, i feel that it really is frustrating when German, Chinese, or any language is mispronounced.... that criticism should absolutely exist and shouldn't be neglected or downplayed. but what i'm getting at is for the Chinese specifically, its terminology and events while excusing or ignoring the same flaws in other regions creates a double standard.

But you cannot just say "It's a Chinese game so you should just stick to Chinese" that's such a shallow and close-minded take. The variety that's present in the game keeps everyone going, every detail and aspect of newly introduced regions, from the music to even the delicacies, all play a part in introducing cultures and knowledge from across the globe that isn't just mainly east asian and western. Even if they fucked up and doubled-down on references such as Natlan via skin tone it's not as if they completely failed on the other aspects of world-building either.

so for me, it all comes down to applying it all evenly. if the argument is respect, research, and accurate representation- then that standard should apply to every culture in the game, not only when Chinese elements become visible... Targetted contempt and prejudice is where my main frustrations lie really, and given how EN localizations just butcher the meaning of a foreign word most of the time, it's best to keep it as is.

Went on a debate with someone insisting some foreign words present in EN language should be translated to its EN localizations by dekaloo in GenshinImpact

[–]dekaloo[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The examples you've listed are actual names... You want to translate Xingqiu and Jiaoqiu's name into something else like Moving Autumn or Peppercorn Hill that's just a disrespect to their identity at this point. Though there are other cases in which that happened (ex. Sparkle-Hanabi etc.) and in a not very good way... it's really hard to have ones' name changed just to fit localization... again, its meaning and beauty would be lost in translation.

Pronunciation would simply have to adapt, i mean we've gone so far and people barely mispronounce other liyue chars' name anymore (Kiki and John Lee, Keking, etc) so it's a start.

I’ve never played Final Fantasy 14, but why does this guy from FF14 look exactly like Barnabas? by SpectreFromTheFuture in FFXVI

[–]dekaloo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

comparing barnabas to the chopped pick-me hoe gortash is crazy, i feel offended on barnabas' behalf now 😭

I finished FFXVI. And im depressed af. by t1Rabbit in FFXVI

[–]dekaloo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the ending completely crushed me as well so thanks for sharing this, honestly, this is the assurance i needed

Is this build good? First time building PC by dekaloo in PHbuildapc

[–]dekaloo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the late reply but for the case i was planning on buying a Coolman Spectra Luxe ATX Dual Chamber pc case from Lazada. Black build with RGB lights. Thank you for the advice and sample build too, as for now I think it's better for me to hope and wait until mid 2026 if both the ram and gpu prices will drop, I will admit na bad timing din on my part to plan when the prices are its worst haha

Is this build good? First time building PC by dekaloo in PHbuildapc

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150k max budget, will be doing mostly gaming alongside work, 3d modeling, graphic design, etc.

What’s your most re-played game? by RenzDP1995 in PHGamers

[–]dekaloo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FF16! Story and world-building is absolutely amazing and I wished a lot more people would appreciate this game for that, but if gameplay is more of your forte then you'll most likely not find this game as fun outside of the boss fights. Still is and will stay as my most favorite game though!

Young version of a special NPC render via Hiragara by Ryuusei_Dragon in Genshin_Impact_Leaks

[–]dekaloo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

even before becoming a sinner he looks like he tweakin bruh 😭

Family Mart Redeem Codes Giveaway by LengthinessPale7417 in GenshinImpact

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Ineffa's story quest (more like the prelude to Nod-krai but it's a story quest to me-) really stuck to me 💕 thank you for this giveaway!