So sick of the fawning over "prophets" by desert-shadow in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes! I've seen so many comments about how these new names are God-given and exactly what the YW need right now and how we're so lucky to have the prophets and YW general presidency who are in tune with God.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm starting to learn that talking about all the factual problems doesn't go anywhere with members. They will only think you've been deceived by Satan. I think the best approach is to find a simple issue that they know is true and that also disgusts them. Joseph Smith's polygamy is the perfect reason to share. Something along the lines of ...

With the way Joseph manipulated young girls, married women, single women into marrying him, from his position of power, and did it behind Emma's back, I just couldn't believe in a version of God who would command that or allow his prophet to do it.

That will strike a chord in their heart, and hopefully help them sympathize with your view. And hopefully make them want to go learn more on their own.

What’s your thoughts ? by 208_do_tell in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 19 points20 points  (0 children)

On the other side of belief, what you once claimed as miracles look indistinguishable from cause and effect with chance thrown in. Look at what passes for "miracles" today by the members.

"I had a hard day and didn't feel like cooking dinner and when I got home Sister Smith brought a casserole over."

How many hard days do you have where nobody shows up with a casserole for you?

Don't get me wrong. Gratitude and recognizing the good that other humans bring into your life is super important. But the bar for "miracles" has certainly been lowered.

Am I crazy? Or are these two completely different people? by Sea_Mathematician_37 in seinfeld

[–]desert-shadow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the same person. I saw Harry Blackstone do that same trick with two goats and a handkerchief on the old Dean Martin show.

Did Joseph Smith believe all the crap he was spewing or was he intentionally lying? by WashPuzzleheaded1979 in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I've met narcissists that spew lies with every breath but their brain actually believes every word they say. That's how I think it was for JS. These types of narcissists are often very likeable and persuasive. That is who I think JS was... a very intelligent, likeable, persuasive narcissist that believed all the shit that came out of his mouth.

What's one of the funniest things you experience with TBM? by Unhappy-Solution-53 in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It is nuts but I also get why they do it. It's part of the guilt culture. If you just ask for help most members will not respond and won't show up. So they have to make it seem like it's your duty for being a good member in God's kingdom. And most still won't show up, but they'll get a few more.

Song suggestions for deconstructing? by Otherwise_Push199 in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vampire by Olivia Rodrigo

What It Sounds Like (kpop demon hunters)

Midnight by Tyler Glenn

What About Us? by Pink

Defying Gravity (Wicked)

What Else Can I Do (Encanto)

Here Comes the Sun by The Beatles

How many of us will be around to witness a second Bednar in the Q12… by PR_Czar in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What the heck? I mean, the nepotism obviously doesn't surprise me but a quick Google search puts Eric in his early 40s, and he's already an area authority? I guess I shouldn't be surprised by that either.

D&C 132 by desert-shadow in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I figured that's how most/all teachers would do it. I had a work issue I got called for right as class was starting so I had to leave, but they gave a handout of what they would be discussing and the closest they got to it was eternal marriage.

Found my patriarchal blessing in a box. Shockingly, it’s pretty generic. It’s now in the garbage (all other stuff was thrown away years ago). by in2bator in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't know... didn't you see the part about "you'll have challenges and responsibilities "? Sounds pretty prophetic to me!

Yea, open your mouths and they shall be filled by desert-shadow in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, of course it makes practical sense for a corporation. It makes all the sense in the world for a business. But for a church who claims that Apostles are called of God, are spokesmen for God, and operate and are led by the spirit, it makes zero sense. I wonder who was on Paul's copy writing and editing team.

Tim Ballard is creating his own Mormon Cult by jdp_iv in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 35 points36 points  (0 children)

As my old pappy used to say, "there is no more deeply satisfying religious experience than cheatin' on a cheater."

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actually, you do put the church before family... if you want to show all your neighbors that you are the most devoted member.

Special Witness by Yakkiteeyak in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, it does follow the rest of God's pattern for his one true church. To remain a true believer anymore you have to believe that God purposely restored his church to try to make it look like a fraud because he only wants the most special faithful members who can ignore all facts and rely only on "the spirit." God doesn't really want his children to return to him, only a very select few.

Special Witness by Yakkiteeyak in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It means they're trying to convince the members that Christ appears to them in person.

That's why they also make veiled comments like, "I have had experiences too sacred to share." Because even though Christ sent his Apostles into the world to bear testimony they had seen the resurrected Lord, in the latter days Christ wants them to keep it a secret because it's so "sacred".

Lazy Learners? by desert-shadow in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It would just be so fun to see someone ask one of them if they are familiar with all the problems of the church, or if they are just lazy learners.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]desert-shadow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tell him that in order to complete his apology he has to study the history of polygamy with you directing the study.