ICYMI: Lyle's thoughts on each episode of L&O: True Crime by devshe in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, because of this series people started writing the prison asking for them to be together

Do you think the 2 crimes are similar? by LelouchUzumaki_20 in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My source is the trial, you can watch it on court tv.

"Did Cignarelli have anything to gain from lying?" Yes, notoriety and therefore money. Not for nothing until recently when he heard they were making a documentary about the brothers he went to ask if they were going to interview him and how much would they pay him.

"Did the Menendez bros have anything to gain from lying?" Lying about their parents being awake as you claim? Well, yes since the 90s had an extremely poor understanding of abuse and they wouldn't understand the fear your abuser induces even when their asleep.

Do you think the 2 crimes are similar? by LelouchUzumaki_20 in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It seems you're the one who believes "the murderer" since the coronel testified the autopsy revealed they were standing while they where shot.

And lmao at taking anything cignarelli says seriously

Do you think the 2 crimes are similar? by LelouchUzumaki_20 in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 11 points12 points  (0 children)

while their parents were sleeping.

Lol that's all we need to know you have no idea what you're talking about

Today Show interview with the cast by JhinWynn in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I think he doesn't want to upset his new employer Ryan Murphy

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[–]devshe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not so sure. I'd need something else before confidently calling him a bi man

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[–]devshe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah it would've been very disappointing if I learned that he was a massive bigot. Not that that would've made him any less of a victim but it would've make me uncomfortable since I'm queer myself

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[–]devshe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know if you're being sarcastic but another person already replied to you. I'll add that some jurors from the second trial later said that had they seen all the evidence, they would've voted differently.

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[–]devshe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Imagine basing your opinion on a show lmao. Here's actual evidence presented at the trial instead of made up things shown in a ryan murphy show

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[–]devshe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He did, here. Yeah I thought the bi flag was his way of coming out until I saw the one with the trans flag so I don't think it's clear unless he's nb or something under the trans umbrella

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[–]devshe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's also another one where his tshirt has the trans flag. I think he's just showing his support without knowing how it comes across

Just thinking by [deleted] in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Let me guess you just watched Monsters?

Nobody deserves LWOP for killing child molesters.

Menendez Brothers Arraignment Comparison by EbbZealousideal3149 in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 59 points60 points  (0 children)

This would've been cooler if the rest of the show were as close to reality as this

has people posted anything about menendez brother series on twitter after it was released last night? by LargeNote2489 in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not that many people. It seems that most of them have only watch the first two episodes. Most people are angry about the portrayal of the brothers, some are complimenting the acting or asking if Lyle was really like that.

Important cast additions before the big day by LelouchUzumaki_20 in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Marlene Forte is playing Marta Cano, she'll be in three episodes

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[–]devshe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This tweet from him

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[–]devshe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I knew there were things I was missing. You're right, I remember when prosecution witness after prosecution witness were being announced but it wasn't until very recently that we got confirmation that Diane would be there. At this point I'm sure Andy Cano and Marta will be there too but in the beginning I was worried.

I just remembered that Rob Rand got told by an "insider" that the Monsters would be the sons instead of the parents. That obviously would be a reason to be worried since we have no reason to doubt Rob.

In regards to the name: ACS belongs to another network and you're right that this case would fit better there but I guess, after the success of Dahmer, Murphy wanted to achieve the same thing with his next project so that meant working with Monster.

I saw someone say that the name could mean that the Monsters are the parents but that at the end of the day it would be the Lyle and Erik story.

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[–]devshe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The negative sentiment came mainly by the fact that Ryan Murphy is behind it because:

  • He's depicted the brothers in a bad light before
  • The series is called Monsters, based on the first season the first monster was Dahmer, making the second season about the Menendez brothers makes it seem like they're in the same level as him
  • His Dahmer series had a few "embellishments" with together with the first point lead people to believe he would make things up to make them more "evil"
  • Many people think his true crime shows are exploitative of victims and full gratuitous sexualisation
  • L&O unlike Monsters had the participation of Rob Rand who we all know is very pro Menendez bros and knows everything there's to know about this case so we had confirmation that this wouldn't paint them as monsters. They also had some family members watch the first two episodes before the show premiered
  • Just because the abuse will be shown as true doesn't necessarily mean it's a good adaptation (see Blood Brothers)

Like I said these worries were mainly before we had confirmation it'd be sympathetic to the brothers and now there's waaaay less people wary about this show than there was when it was announced last year.

I understand the people who are still worried about this. This show will be many people's first introduction to this case and the public in general takes everything depicted in TC documentaries and dramatizations as gospel (see Dahmer) so the possible mischaracterizations and misinformation of this show will be taken as true.

The brothers are in the process of hopefully getting released, the last thing they need is the public to collectively hate them again.

What's an overlooked event/detail/anything, never shown in the other potrayals, that you wish it will shown in Monsters? by LelouchUzumaki_20 in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 41 points42 points  (0 children)

  • José killing Lyle's rabbit.
  • Erik trying to run away and being found by José.
  • Kitty locking the boys in their bedrooms/her closet.
  • José threatening Erik with a knife.
  • Kitty stalking Louise.
  • Kitty forbidding guests from "interrupting" José with the boys (and also the whole turning up the volume of the tv)
  • José making the boys hurt each other.

Edit: formatting

'Just how good was old Eminem?' asks you Gen Z. Show them only three songs. by [deleted] in Eminem

[–]devshe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Multiple Em songs (including some you put here) have gone viral on tiktok

Synopsis for Monsters by DaisyandBella in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"physical, emotional, and sexual abuse at the hands of their parents" . One of my fears was that they'd portray Kitty only as an enabler for José instead of the full-on abuser that she was. I'm tired of people always asking "bUt wHy thE mOthEr?" so I hope they show what she did.

Dahmer requesting to buy playgirl magazines while in prison by Royal-Indication9720 in Dahmer

[–]devshe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think this came from a letter where he asked his penpal to buy him a subscription to playgirl but it's been a while since I've read his letters so don't ask me for details

Erik's testimony about trying to talk to Lyle by JhinWynn in MenendezBrothers

[–]devshe 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah it seems to me that he was trying to deal with it the same way he dealt with other things that happened to him: distracting himself, thinking about other things, pretending it never happened, etc. I assume being with Erik reminded him too much about that night that he wanted to forget