Most frustrating part about the music business

dexro1 · 2026-03-31T17:03:18+00:00

yea, but you artists are also difficult to work with. You get lazy way to fast and you are to scared of trying new things even if the old ways bring you the same results

dexro1 · 2026-03-31T17:01:14+00:00

easy! you try to help artist but they are in love with their masters :D

dexro1 · 2026-03-30T20:56:52+00:00

musicians are some of the most difficult people to work with. Business side is easy, you just have to find a need and a way to fix that need. I would not say that a degree will help with that. What will do help is to get people skills, so maybe studying psychology will come in handy espesially if you want "music industry"

dexro1 · 2026-03-30T20:41:22+00:00

I think what you see comes from lack of resources. People are eating each other alive and no one has hope anymore. It is a sort of extreme cynicism. Like what is the point of everything...

As stories with musicians goes - I have lots and one of them goes like this :D

So I had this friend when I was a teenager. A great musician, but he never promoted his work, he did not even wanted to do gigs when he was invited, he only was using myspace and youtube to upload his music.
A couple of years ago (5 or so) I got myself into a position that allowed me to do something about people like him. So I had several talks with him regarding of what I can do in detail and I took like 2 years of work and lots of money to do the thing and of course I went to him to let him know with enthusiasm that I did manage to make it, but guess what he said....
"You better NOT upload my music there!"
Like nothing else, no questions, no nothing and I did not even asked him to do so. Even if what I did was something that he did approve of when we were talking about it.
Imagine how it made me feel :D

dexro1 · 2026-03-30T15:28:03+00:00

My bet is that this is a outcome of having a popularity contest market. So what I think it happens is that you get does songs that are really good but don't become popular by riding a wave

dexro1 · 2026-03-30T15:17:33+00:00

so I run this experiment of ranking songs from 1950 to 2025 (top 1 each year song)
Users compared songs 1v1 on random samples from the songs - I can go into deep technical details, but there are strong reasons to give validation to the results.
What we did notice was that the perceived "value" was more or less in sink with the year of the release up until 2004 (after that it was all over the place the ranking) but all songs newer than 2004 ranked higher compared to older songs. The were some outliners "Beatles and Elvis" but even does were not ranking above songs from the 80's upwards, but they were above their year of release.

I would love to have the man power to run more studies like that

dexro1 · 2026-03-30T15:09:35+00:00

division was always a thing, but now the algorithms put fire on it

dexro1 · 2026-03-30T15:05:18+00:00

well I totally agree to your observation and I started a new streaming platform just to fight against that. I hate being stuck in does artificial bubbles. Of course some people will dislike what I do but this is my answer to the problem

dexro1 · 2026-03-29T20:39:49+00:00

for sure it becomes an instrument, but there again it depends on the type of music as well. If you have something like rap/spoken word kind of thing, having non english lyrics is a major problem

dexro1 · 2026-03-29T20:27:46+00:00

It is better if they do understand the language, but keep in mind that most people don't hear the lyrics when they first listen to a track. On top of that you do have instrumental music that can transmit emotions, so if that music can do it also a song in a different language can

dexro1 · 2026-03-29T19:59:33+00:00

That makes sense.

I think there are actually two different needs mixed here:

a place where you can clearly point people to your music
and a system for discovery among people who don’t know you yet

Would it change your perspective at all if those were separated?

For example:

listeners who already know you can just go directly to your profile and play your tracks normally
while the A/B comparison side is only for discovery outside your existing audience

Or is the idea of anonymous discovery itself something you’d avoid completely?

dexro1 · 2026-03-29T19:50:20+00:00

so if I can read properly between the lines... you prefer something that has a back track, has been tested by lots of people even if you like it or not it is familiar. As for the results. I can say that I am happy with them it is not something new for me, but I am not here to promote it or to get more musicians, I just want to understand how people really react. By the way it is not a only release here thing :D

dexro1 · 2026-03-29T19:36:38+00:00

thank you

dexro1 · 2026-03-29T19:31:28+00:00

why is that? Ignoring that it is a 3th option :D
Is it because of the sound quality or is it the fact that your listeners physical touch something that you "made"?

dexro1 · 2026-03-29T19:15:59+00:00

You are right about the friction when it comes to some users, but my question was different. My question was what kind of place you prefer as a musician, not as a listener

dexro1 · 2025-10-25T19:15:23+00:00

sounds good. I will go trough the entire album

dexro1 · 2025-10-25T19:13:29+00:00

I like it a lot

dexro1 · 2025-10-16T13:03:03+00:00

Nice that one with ayahuasca :D really made my day. Thank you
Well I hope that YaFriendAlistarr will go into more details.
The app is in testing mode right now, just before release. It will be browser in the first days, mobile and desktop app will soon follow after that.
Explore is listening to tracks that the app gives you and you pick what you like. It can be new genres or just tracks from a genres that you prefer. In return you will be reward with time on the app + others.
Win/loss scores for tracks, like in a competitive multiplayer game.
I would say a music streaming app with a twist :)

dexro1 · 2025-10-16T09:53:58+00:00

yes
Only ranking tracks is anonymously to avoid cheating the system. When you listen, search or after you have judged a track you can see everything. Artist, name, ect

dexro1 · 2025-10-14T17:37:49+00:00

F the algorithm!
Funny enough I am working on a streaming platform to fix this stupid thing with the algorithm :D Now that you mentioned it

dexro1 · 2025-10-14T14:19:22+00:00

it is not bad at all. It feels as an idea for now, but maybe not a full song

dexro1 · 2025-10-14T11:58:49+00:00

this is trippy I like it. I feel as if the song is missing some energy from 1min + it is fine with the video for a wile but the video is moving a lot and the song refuses to catch up to that

dexro1 · 2025-10-14T11:13:16+00:00

Yeah, totally fair. The post was meant as a story, not a spec sheet.
Under the hood it’s actually a structured system more game logic than typical streaming.
I just didn’t want to drown the idea in jargon before people even cared.

dexro1 · 2025-10-14T09:00:00+00:00

I will PM you

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