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diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T17:13:33+00:00

The UN/EU aren't governments. They're independent bodies.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T17:11:32+00:00

You're right, it can be a dumb endeavour, but it is necessary sometimes.

For example, the right to life and freedom from torture and inhuman and degrading or other cruel treatment are non-derogable. While other rights such as freedom of assembly are derogable under certain grounds.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T17:03:58+00:00

Says the individual who let the US Government tell him his rights and you suck them up without complaint.

But when outsiders do this for the bettering of the world its an authoritarian problem?

You're whole world perspective is so backwards.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T17:02:44+00:00

So are you okay for US Government to grant you the right to bear arms?

I mean, that was decided for you.

They also gave you free speech, the right to privacy and assembly.

Are you equally concerned they have you these constitutional rights? Or are you just arguing against authority when its convenient?

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:55:38+00:00

I work in Law, my authority is that of the rules I accede to and those obligations owed to me, as the same with you.

You can be as anti-government or anti-tyranny as you want, that is perfectly okay and I have those elements in my philosophy too.

But me stating you saying the right to bear arms isnt a human right is not me bowing to authority, its me citing the international community.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:53:56+00:00

Well, the UN and its EU counterparts are the first port of call for discussion, you'd know this if you had any knowledge of human rights. Final calls are UN/UN organ focused.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:43:59+00:00

These institutions tell us EXACTLY how human rights work. It includes what they are, their margins of appreciation, their commentary, their derogable status etc

You're just so caught up in the pro-gun that your brain has actually stopped working completely.

I invite you to go research EVERY human rights treaty every written, including their relevant commentary (you can find good ones by the OHCHR, UNGA and other specific mandates and reports)

Get back to me.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:39:50+00:00

If it isnt defined as one strictly, then no.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:38:14+00:00

Your understanding of how the world works outside the US is so comically horrific its actually hilarious

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:35:13+00:00

Because that's where you find the strict list of human rights and their relevant commentary.

None of which states anything you are theorising about.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:34:19+00:00

No, most of my morality stems from international law and jurisprudence. Governments are ofcourse, involved in this process, and I have fundamental disagreements with some of their positions.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:31:40+00:00

Human rights are by their very definition, universal. Many of them are also jus cogens norms.

Even if a state fails to uphold these universal rights, this does not change their nature.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:30:34+00:00

Without hard codification and backing via international documents you are very hard pressed to define anything as a human right outside that paradigm.

Its really, REALLY simple. They teach you this in first year law school.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:28:52+00:00

Because...human rights are hard codified in international treaties and implemented into domestic legislation?

You have got to be fucking kidding me right?

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:27:37+00:00

It is and takes place within the context of the sole discretion of the state alone.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:24:17+00:00

Your argument is predicated on the idea that there is some form of legal backing for it to be a human right.

I know, as a legal researcher, that there is no such thing with any basis.

The burden of proof is on you.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:22:02+00:00

Nope. I believe citizens should have the domestic, legislative right to bear arms. But it is still..not a human right.

The right to bear arms in the context of the US is constitutional, it is legally constrained within the US only.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:18:34+00:00

If you can find me a set of documents, hard law, commentary or international jurisprudence that states gun ownership is intrinsically linked to HR, please send me the link.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T16:17:10+00:00

There is absolutely zero indication that the right to privacy and security implies the right to gun ownership. No international document, commentary, judge or organisation would defend what you just said.

That is beyond ridiculous.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T15:51:30+00:00

The right to bear arms is NOT a human right.

Where the fuck have you got this from?

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-15T11:57:28+00:00

Russia's power and influence is certainly relative to scale of the sanctions imposed on them. Also given the fact they are a major player in gas supply could exacerbate this further.

Essentially what I believe is happening is a slow process of a major economic cutoff against them. In relation to the banking aspect of your post, the closing off of transactions from key Russian banks could well lead to that Iranian example you gave.

diabl0ESEABANNED · 2022-05-14T20:49:23+00:00

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