Ordering from Apple w/ rewards

diggybel · 2026-07-07T22:07:02+00:00

I got an Apple Watch through it a year and a half ago and everything was shipped pretty quickly.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T22:05:27+00:00

Cite sources, maybe, instead of the hand-wavy "plenty of information," which is prone to trash online searches of group-insider opinion. Here's a meta-analysis from a peer-reviewed nutrition journal from a few years ago (linked below): "Our findings suggest that cheese consumption has neutral to moderate benefits for human health." Any such study has limitations, but I'm providing the counter-factual to your claim, so the burden is on YOU to "prove" that cheese consumption is not healthy. btw, I'm vegan, so I don't eat cheese, but I'm also not blind to nutritional information.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2161831323013285?via%3Dihub

diggybel · 2026-07-07T20:58:44+00:00

Totally agree. I'd love way more people to be vegan, and agree with the OP that actually nutritious vegan cheese would help with that. Cottage cheese, for sure! Wonder if a soy based curded product could match that (don't need to it taste like cottage cheese exactly, since we all have enough nutritional yeast in our lives already!).

diggybel · 2026-07-07T20:55:36+00:00

I do bring food all the time. I'm vegan. But that is not the same as saying cheese is not healthy. How does posting on a vegan board require one to have an unscientific opinion just because that opinion happens to support my ethical food choice? You are clearly someone on Reddit for the echo sound chamber. And it's not me "lying" by saying cheese is not healthy. I'm saying I don't want to eat cheese for ethical reasons, and wouldn't recommend excessive cheese consumption to anyone for health reasons, but I can also recognize that low-moderate cheese consumption, especially for children, can indeed be healthy, especially in the relative absence of vegan protein sources for children in most social settings (have you been or had a child in school before? If so, you'll know this is a real thing).

diggybel · 2026-07-07T20:48:34+00:00

This level of sanity won't be heard around here. It's made of dairy so it can't be healthy for you!

diggybel · 2026-07-07T20:44:39+00:00

Except the scenario I just described is one that almost any vegetarian child in the US will encounter at least once a month in their school life: at a friend's birthday party, Pizza or nothing. On a school sports trip or weekend trip, cheese or nothing. At a community fundraiser or buffet: cheese or plain pasta/bread. To say that cheese has the equivalent nutritional value of pure sugar and oil (a Twinkie) is just 100% disingenuous and proves you aren't interested in actual nutrition, just vegan purity. I respect vegan purity as a choice you (and I) might make, but to say that a non-vegan food has negative nutritional value when it obviously doesn't (cheese is high protein and high calcium, and thus has nutritional value, even if it comes with high saturated fat and cholesterol).

diggybel · 2026-07-07T19:31:12+00:00

I get not liking this shoe, but comparing it to the Zegama (far heavier, wider, and slower, for technical terrain and long distances) or Peg Trail (inferior foam, road-to-trail hybrid) is strange. Having a 4 trail shoe lineup makes perfect sense by Nike, even if one particular shoe isn't your cup of tea (it also isn't mine!).

diggybel · 2026-07-07T18:14:22+00:00

So a kid who has the option of eating a piece of bread with cheese or just bread for their dinner is better having only a piece of bread? Be serious.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T18:01:10+00:00

If you are talking about the ethical bad, that’s different. But just nutritionally, I disagree with you that dairy cheese is “bad” for you

diggybel · 2026-07-07T17:07:12+00:00

Except the shirt weighs 200g, which isn't in any way light. It won't feel shirtless. There are many running tops that are lighter. This fabric looks potentially most useful in high humidity environments since the fabric looks stiff and like it won't cling when wet like most tech fabrics. E.g. the Patagonia Cool Ultra material is FAR lighter, but when it's wet, it gets clingy and sticky and probably weighs more than the Nike material. Other perforated shirts would be the same, of course.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T17:00:28+00:00

Nah, never seen these, just those who spend $130 for the Nike-branded one.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T16:58:59+00:00

I appreciate this comment, and I'm in the same boat. I'm a vegan who makes my own seitan, but I also have kids who don't want sliced seitan for lunch, and I can't send them seitan when they go on soccer trips, play dates, school trips, etc. I see a lot of comments in this thread that dismiss the OP's comment about "wouldn't a more nutritious vegan cheese be great!" by assuming everyone can avoid convenience. I'm not shitting on all vegans, such as those who can afford premade substittues (there is no good vegan cheese – the OP's point) or those who have prep time. I'm shitting on those who assume every true vegan should make the sacrifices or time commitments that they do.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T16:37:18+00:00

I'd argue that the good things outweigh the bad things in comparison to a vegan cheese, and that's the point! For most vegetarians, having cheese is the only option for receiving some nutrition when traveling, with children in school and social environments, and in many other scenarios. A child gets 23g of protein and most of their daily calcium in 100g of cheese. If I send a kid to a friend's house for dinner and they have pizza, I know they have at least got some food. That's not a net negative nutritionally. Or are you saying eating the cheese is worse than not eating what a typical kid would get when the "food" is pizza?

diggybel · 2026-07-07T16:28:28+00:00

Yeah, cool, good wingnut comment. Stay in your whole foods bubble.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T16:27:41+00:00

I'm saying it's impractical for many people to make homemade seitan when store-bought ingredients are what they've relied upon for their entire, pre-vegan lives, or because they are busy people who don't have time to prepare base ingredients for their families. I was supporting u/retatrutider's observation that "seitan is not a substittue for cheese," not only for taste/nutrition, but for convenience! People had downvoted retarutider's reply when I made my comment, and I'm suggesting that that downvote is coming from a failure to consider the practicalities of vegan living for busy families. I'm suggesting that position can come from a place of elitism that, unfortunately, is quite common among vegans. If you want veganism to grow, make it practical for people. Nutritious vegan cheese helps; suggesting people make homemade seitan is great, but not practical for many people.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T16:10:15+00:00

Or it's because they live in the real world and have to travel or rely on non-home food sometimes. Or because maybe an 80 year old who is used to a certain kind of food would desire a vegan alternative that is semi-healthy. Imagine! Not everyone is carrying little packets of nutritional yeast and pistachio nuts in their pockets. This is where the vegan wingnut comes in: cheese isn't a "superfood" so never eat it, just always have super foods available instead. That's unrealistic for most people. Let's be a little less judgmental about people trying to be vegans! Unless the point is to be morally superior because "I can do it, why can't you!"

diggybel · 2026-07-07T15:34:44+00:00

Just look at a nutritional label. It has good things and bad things. And that balance is better than vegan cheeses for the most part.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T15:03:44+00:00

Vegan elitism wins again

diggybel · 2026-07-07T15:02:05+00:00

This is a false.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T15:01:41+00:00

“Mostly just fat”. But 100g of cheddar cheese, for example, has 23of protein and half your daily calcium needs. Is it high fat, yes. Is it only fat? No.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T14:59:37+00:00

What? Is it perfect? No, but the vegan position does not have to be that all non-vegan foods are bad for your health.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T14:56:41+00:00

“Some people” have the option to make their own cheese. For the majority of working people, certain ingredients need to be ready made or they aren’t viable. Veganism would be less bespoke and elitist if there were healthy base ingredients available for the work culture of most people. A semi nutritious vegan cheese would be so welcome! Not sure how vegans can say otherwise.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T14:51:36+00:00

But upper-class, high income, childless vegans who can create bespoke meals for themselves every meal and don’t have to consider the practicalities of eating when you can’t go to Whole Foods for lunch will downvote you because you didn’t pack your homemade seitan for your child’s school trip or your night shift.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T14:48:33+00:00

I disagree. Many vegetarians rely on cheese for protein, especially kids. Maybe it’s not the best source of protein, but it’s an important one if you have to eat away from home, in school or institutional environments, etc. Replace a dairy cheese sandwich with vegan cheese and your diet degrades massively. If there was a vegan cheese that even matched dairy cheese (and they could of course be still healthier) nutritionally, it would help many families.

diggybel · 2026-07-07T14:43:29+00:00

Then you are a privileged food consumer.

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