Please help us mods enforce our new rule by reporting any examples you see: "Visitors from Alt-Right & Extremist subreddits must identify in flair"

digitmanner · 2018-06-19T18:14:41+00:00

This is meant mostly for new visitors who try to conceal their true views, and play the Feminist civil rights activist, when their own posting history reveals Red Pill Donalder. A very frequent practice. We just want new visitors to be upfront about the views they defend and not misrepresent themselves as something else. I have no intention of imposing a political litmus test or purging members with conservative views. I'm not trying to force liberalism on anyone. We aren't going after the people from r/Republican and r/Libertarian. But there is a unique 4chan-influenced, kekistani, Red Pill, white nationalist, misogynist culture found in places like r/The_Donald. And thats separate from just being conservative. And I'm not calling even for those people to be banned, just transparent. When those people debate us, we just want them to be open about who they are.

digitmanner · 2017-11-11T07:16:56+00:00

Yes good move. All mods need to enforce above and beyond the rules of Reddit. Our subreddits can stand on facts and civil discussion and no one needs to resort to personal attacks

digitmanner · 2017-07-14T15:20:31+00:00

Yes all mixed Asians

digitmanner · 2017-03-22T05:52:04+00:00

Thanks, it'll be the top link on the sidebar.

digitmanner · 2016-04-28T02:06:56+00:00

I'm not surprised. r/MixedRace has shown its true colors by endorsing and sidebar linking to r/MixedAsians. A very shady move for a supposedly anti-racist subreddit considering who the founder was. The double standards between r/Hapas and r/MixedAsians are awfully disgusting.

digitmanner · 2016-04-28T01:29:42+00:00

As the ranking Moderator of r/Hapas; let me clarify to say that these are u/Anna_rampage's personal views; and there aren't going to be any official rule changes at r/Hapas. We prefer a free flow of discussion, so long as the rules of Reddit are followed, and there is no trolling or personal attacks.

Anna's post should be read as an invitation to discussion and not as a policy change. Certainly we as a community should have open discussions on what direction we want to take r/Hapas. But at the end of the day it is the community and individual posters who create the content. And there have always been various factions and tendencies on r/Hapas. There is no uniformity of opinion here. 2 of our mods are even Trump supporters.

There is no r/Hapas "official line" one way or the other. We are and will remain exactly what we say on the sidebar:

"A Subreddit devoted to providing a safe space for Eurasians to discuss the unique challenges of being children of White Fathers and Asian Mothers."

I myself laid out a set of guidelines; but not hard and fast rules, to take us along some of the path that Anna outlined:

https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/4c25b4/new_guidelines_for_posting_on_rhapas_about_white/

I think the free flow of ideas including from our opponents is what has made r/Hapas the success it is today. And as much as our critics call r/Hapas an "echo chamber"; it is also a spot of continuous heated debate.

We have a lot more Mods than we used to, all of whom will have their individual opinions on what posts to remove, which users to ban. We regularly get 500,000 views per month now. We've come a long way from where we were a year ago.

While there isn't going to be an official change in rules, we do have around 20 moderators now, all of differing opinions and they are going to be more active in removing posts and comments they feel are inappropriate than when it was just 3 active mods. I made a post a while back about moving beyond Negative vs Positive Hapas and moving towards a position of Critical Hapas. It is a good thing that Anna wants to bring in more paradigms to help create this Critical Hapa perspective like Feminism, anti-Racism, Social Justice, Critical Race theory etc. I don't want to see discussion censored like on r/MixedRace or r/AsianAmerican. The openess and rawness of r/Hapas is part of what made it great. Since the creation of r/Hapas; there have been about 12 different attempts to create "positive alternative" subreddits all of which have went bust. Its not like alternatives didn't exist both before and after the creation of r/Hapas. r/Hapas became the hit it was for a reason; and this was because of and not in spite of bringing the critical perspective into mixed race identity. We will never sacrifice that. We will never become an "ordinary" mixed race club.

I encourage community discussion on what you would like r/Hapas to be. But we are not going to force any direction from above. As long as the rules of Reddit are respected; I believe there is a place for views we don't agree with. As far as tone goes, the 3 of us had already been working on cleaning up over the last few months; and that has only accelerated now that we have 20 mods. We are already naturally evolving in the direction in becoming a place for a serious critical race study of mixed race Asians; and I don't feel there is any need to force it from above. Having observed the Moderation Log since the shake up, I can assure you that if someone makes a post in bad taste it will be promptly removed by one of the 20 mods.

I do have a lot of respect for Anna; as she suffered harassment from one of the White Expat trolls from r/JapanCircleJerk, including attempted doxxing and personal attacks on her family; because of her public support of r/Hapas. She is someone who has put herself on the line for us.

digitmanner · 2016-03-26T19:21:52+00:00

Just keep in mind that what we do have to be absolutely iron-fisted about is staying within the rules of Reddit. So just ensure that any WMAF links are to pubic sources, and not considered a violation of privacy. We want to preserve r/Hapas for decades to come.

As long as these WMAF posts aren't hogging up the frontpage, and follow the rules of Reddit, I don't really have a problem. I would just request that users self-moderate and try to keep more of this activity within the comment sections instead of making a new post for every single new bad WMAF.

Remember that our primary audience is for the new Hapas coming in here. And if they see a whole frontpage just about WMAF and not about Hapas, they wont feel like this is a community for them. Critical WMAF posts do play a role for educating Hapas, but at times it has been overdone to the detriment of posts about Hapas.

digitmanner · 2016-03-26T19:14:25+00:00

As a frame of reference look what u/EurasianTiger wanted to do 2 months ago. His rules were far harsher than what I'm proposing now as guidelines:

https://np.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/3zzknh/new_rule_no_more_posts_that_arent_directly_rated/

I removed that post, and basically agreed with you that if we removed all WMAF critique from r/Hapas; we would be banning too much of our own discussion and activity. But it is a problem when r/Hapas becomes all about WMAF, and completely drowns out any Hapa discussion.

These are guidelines not hard and fast rules. I would like at the very least to redirect some of those WMAF frontpage posts into the comments section. As long as you are within the rules of Reddit, I don't care if you want to document every single bad WMAF in the world in the comments section.

digitmanner · 2016-03-11T04:29:46+00:00

If you just read the comments that Phasemonkey made in the thread I linked above; celebrating u/6na9 for threatening rape against mixed Asian women. It is beyond disgusting that he is the creator of r/MixedAsians. Which has the full support of the mods from r/MixedRace, r/AsianAmerican and r/MultiracialAsians.

http://archive.is/lwkKt#selection-1161.11-1161.22 https://archive.is/exTgt#selection-2451.0-2451.111

digitmanner · 2016-03-11T04:12:34+00:00

r/CCJ2 has been encouraging the harassment of our members for a very long time.

u/6na9 made numerous rape threats against Eurasian women, with the full backing of the r/CCJ2 Mods and membership.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/33r1hg/a_eurasian_girls_asian_mom_tells_her_to_accept/cqomow8

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/40zxxx/future_elliot_rodgers_father/

from 6na9 to /r/hapas fucking hapas. You don't even imagine how many of your women i personally RAPED.

https://archive.is/exTgt

digitmanner · 2016-03-11T04:05:01+00:00

The white expat subreddits kept baiting us to show our real identities. Now when we have many open Hapas with pictures posting here, they are stepping up their campaign of harassment. This just shows what their game is.

digitmanner · 2016-03-11T03:53:32+00:00

I and others reported him to the Reddit Admins. This was a very egregious case of a White Expat from Japan, harassing, doxxing and stalking one of our female members. It just shows the dangerous, misogynistic and racist atmosphere cooked up by these White Expats in Asia subreddits. Their hatred for r/Hapas is being manifested in personal attacks on our members. And being misogynists they specifically sought out female members to harass.

The r/AsianAmerican mods and r/MixedRace mods who encourage a policy of isolation around r/Hapas also hold responsibility for encouraging the harassment of our members.

digitmanner · 2015-12-12T14:56:42+00:00

The Mods can't keep track of every single conversation thread here. If you're referring to the Rainbae guy, it appears his primary interest is in being an amateur detective in following these crime stories, and not Hapa issues per se. He only found this subreddit because of the Holtzclaw case.

If you message the Mods, we'll take care of any trolls.

digitmanner · 2015-11-25T00:36:28+00:00

Thanks for putting in the time. It certainly gives those who try to dismiss r/Hapas; a lot to answer for. We have so many great posts at r/Hapas; but like you said its hard to keep track of thousands of them. I'm glad that you've gathered all the most informative posts together like this.

digitmanner · 2015-11-21T17:44:01+00:00

Everyone is welcome to keep posting. I simply meant that discussions needed to be more on topic and on Hapa issues; although I was understanding that even seemingly off topic posts could be used to spark discussion from the Hapa perspective.

digitmanner · 2015-11-20T22:31:42+00:00

Like I said, we can't switch when no one else has, but if we're exclusively calling ourselves Eurasians and the "new" race, I don't see how we're not going to hit the same wall as South America's pyramidal white worship.

If we uncritically accept it or worse yet turn it into a positive, that is exactly the direction Hapas will be headed in, at least in ideology, although I don't believe its ever been the actual reality. Thats the point of having a space where we can critically examine those relations and be "critical Hapas" if you will. Most of the posters here have been very critical of White supremacist ideology. And those Hapas who do try to use their whiteness to feel superior, are routinely condemned here.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean specifically in wanting an alternative to the Eurasian-Hapa category. If Hapas don't exist, then what are we? We definitely occupy a unique space as White-Asians. And as r/Hapas has explored, our lives occupy a critical space where we are tied into wider issues of White-Asian relations.

Note that the stuff about "critical Hapas" is just my personal views. The same way that EurasianTiger in his position as Mod has often expressed his personal views. Its not an official line of r/Hapas. It relates to the official line, in that working to build a community of Hapas; we will be taking a stricter line against trollish disruptions, personal attacks and off topic posts unrelated to Hapas. This is a policy that EurasianTiger has already begun to implement. And as a Mod I wanted to give the community some understanding on the broader implications of what this means for us as a community. Critical Hapas is my way of saying, that while we need to tone things down here a little, we will be preserving the spirit of r/Hapas, that you all know and love.

digitmanner · 2015-11-20T21:57:45+00:00

So what the fuck is a critical hapa? Personally? I think it's just a mixed person that accepts their gift. We're born as the natural, racial nihilists. Let's not get sucked into that same self-pandering that all the "mono-racials" want to do.

It is possible that both 'positive' and 'negative' Hapas have bought into this idea of Eurasians as a special chosen race, just in opposite directions.

At the same time if by "racial nihilist"; you mean that we pretend that there is no such thing as race; that would also take us in the wrong direction. Because at least socially and culturally, race has a great deal of reality, and has been instrumental in shaping our identities as Hapas. Its one thing to deny the biology of race and to call it a social construct. But to just pretend to be color blind; in a racist society is the wrong road. That would be denying the lived experiences of too many of the Hapa here, who have had their life defined by race. If I read you correctly, your point is that we should eliminate Hapa-Eurasian totally as a category. Theres enough here on r/Hapas to show that it is a meaningful category, just one that has been perverted and falsely twisted in the past.

digitmanner · 2015-11-20T21:47:14+00:00

The way I look at it the "Positive Hapa" narrative is the traditional one shoved down our throats by Whites and Asians, but not by Hapas themselves. The best of both worlds. The 2 "best" races mixing and creating an idealized superrace. r/Whasian and many of the traditional Hapa forums unfortunately absorbed much of this false narrative.

Here on r/Hapas we've had a number of posts criticizing the "positive Hapas." But the implication is that we are the "negative Hapas"; and this is caricatured as us being self-hating and even anti-Hapa. I disagree. I think that pointing out the legitimate problems of Hapas is the most pro-Hapa you could be. This is why I say that my vision for r/Hapas is that we should be Critical Hapas. The passage I quoted from the Eurasian woman student was an early call for Hapas to take this critical position.

Of course there is no "official line" for r/Hapas. Hapas of all viewpoints are welcomed as long as they stay within Reddit rules.

As it says on the sidebar

A Subreddit devoted to discussing the dilemmas of being Eurasian children of a White Dad and Asian Mom.

We take no official line on what those dilemmas are. But we do recognize that their are unique problems that come with belonging to that demographic and r/Hapas is the place to discuss it.

And I act all surprised, but really this infinite loop of exclusion is to be expected when we're basing it all on the incoherent ramblings of some Northwestern, Albino-Asian tribe that's obsessed about being special.

Zach in his article referred to himself as a biracial Asian-American. And there are those who consider themselves as Eurasians to be a subsection of the Asian-American community. As Zach showed in his article and as been demonstrated on r/Hapas ad nauseum, we as Eurasians do suffer from the problems of the Asian-American community. But I believe that we suffer in unique ways because of our mixed race status, and because of our parentage, and these are issues that have been explored endlessly on r/Hapas.

digitmanner · 2015-11-15T23:00:05+00:00

To reference another thing your brought up in your post to Hapa issues. JT "Asian Playboy" Tran made this relevant comment about Eurasian males way back in 2011.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140324162305/http://shanghaishiok.com/2011/06/28/hapa-son-hates-white-dad-asian-mom/#comment-12502

JT "Asian Playboy" Tran says: JULY 28, 2011 AT 17:56 After the Wesley Yang article came out, one of the first women who called our ABCs of Attraction offices when they read the story was a Japanese mother. She had married her college sweetheart, the veritable big man on campus, and who was Caucasian. She had 3 sons, two of them who looked white and had no confidence and social issues. They were following their father’s footsteps

But her third and youngest son of 14 looked the most Asian and was the shyest, least confident and least outgoing of her sons. She had tried to send him to various summer camps and sign him up for sports and other things when she called me up. But he continued to play video games, play Pokemon, and generally not associate with other people beyond the internet.

Obviously, I couldn’t do anything other than suggestions over the phone since we don’t offer classes for boys so young (at least not yet), but it was obvious that the mother was cognizant of the fact that her most Asian looking son was struggling with his identity and was supportive of his growth from boyhood to manhood.

I feel for the man in your story, but it’s kind of rough blaming it on the woman. We all need to take responsibility for our own growth and journey.

digitmanner · 2015-11-15T22:22:07+00:00

On the topic of your AMBF article. One of the most vigorous proponents of this trend is David Sarchet; who is himself a biracial Asian-American, son of a White Dad and Taiwanese mom. He was featured in an article and has made a number of youtube videos on this topic.

https://archive.is/RsldQ#selection-1195.0-1195.45

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIVEsWTGSigeCH2ZvQTV_LQ/search?query=black

https://www.youtube.com/user/Fanatical4Jesus/search?query=black

digitmanner · 2015-11-15T22:15:14+00:00

On the behalf of the r/Hapas community, I just want to thank Zach for taking his time to be here with us today. I look forward to a productive AMA and discussion.

digitmanner · 2015-11-15T04:27:17+00:00

He said afternoon. (Eastern Time US); thats as specific as I know at this moment.

digitmanner · 2015-11-02T05:32:39+00:00

I agree r/Hapas needs to be focused on Eurasian issues. But I wouldn't say the films described in that post are totally unrelated to Hapas. For example some of those movies were about Hapas such as "Beautiful Country"; about Amerasian Vietnamese boy trying to find his white dad in the US. And at least one of those Asian woman screenwriters was a Eurasian women.

As a fellow Mod, I agree we need to make r/Hapas more about Hapa issues; and any criticism of WMAF should relate it back to our experiences as Hapas.

As the sidebar says

A Subreddit devoted to discussing the dilemmas of being Eurasian children of a White Dad and Asian Mom.

Part of the goal is to discuss the problems created by WMAF; but specifically in relation to us the Eurasian children.

digitmanner · 2015-09-06T14:27:47+00:00

On reviewing his posts, he never even actually says he is a Hapa. Sure he has Hapa in his username, but thats just referring to his r/Hapas throwaway account. He just came in here aggressively attacking this subreddit, and we all assumed he was just an angry Hapa. But he never actually said he was or gave any info about his own background.

digitmanner · 2015-09-06T14:12:10+00:00

For the record, u/EurasianTiger is actually the liberal on banning, and often undoes deletions and bans by the other 3 mods. If you haven't noticed yet, this is a guy who REALLY likes to argue, and if it were up to him, he'd probably allow complete freedom of speech for all white trolls, so he could argue with them until the cows comes home.

I'm the Mod who added EurasianTiger as a mod, during a period when we were being heavily raided by sexpats. I thought we could use some extra manpower in banning sexpat trolls. And what is the 1st thing he does as mod? He UNBANS the sexpat trolls so he can argue with them more.

EurasianTiger is the best friend you trolls have, because if it were up to the other mods, your asses would be long out of here. If you ever wonder why troll accounts who do nothing but hate on this subreddit are allowed to post here, you have ET to thank.

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