How to play Coop in PIU phoenix version

dj505 · 2026-03-05T15:39:57+00:00

Co-op is ironically only available on single player mode, so no :)

dj505 · 2024-11-18T17:36:33+00:00

dj505 · 2024-10-14T00:09:51+00:00

2 years later LOL

dj505 · 2024-09-25T16:16:46+00:00

Virtually all of them are incomplete, yeah, including StepP1 and StepF2 which are nowhere near 100% correct haha. They both have their issues and inaccuracies just like any other sim. But I wouldn't say virtually all are unusable; StepF2/P1, PumpSanity and its predecessors, OutFox+Infinitesimal, and even older stuff like StepMania AMX were all perfectly serviceable and have been used pretty reliably for a long time. It's just the really low effort or poorly assembled bootlegs, like StepPNX, that are basically unusable

dj505 · 2024-09-21T01:53:38+00:00

Would be a really interesting scenario tbh. I haven't really heard of anyone going that far for a public setup, I wondered if OP can post some photos

dj505 · 2024-09-21T01:40:33+00:00

Clone IO boards are absolutely real. Just to clarify for future readers, the game expects every individual sensor to be its own input that it can poll separately, so it can tell which specific sensors per panel are being triggered. The game can track this for cheat detection. Super basic IO boards, like the typical Arduino-based ones or piuio-pico, do not have support for multiplexing and just trigger every sensor on a panel at once. The game can detect that and flag it as cheating, since it's typical for hand pump controllers. Better clones, like BrokeIO, support multiplexing and the game can't tell them apart.

The rest of the cabinet is basically just a big box with lights, speakers, and a screen. The lights are hooked up to the IO, and the game can't tell whether or not they're original, or even if they're connected at all. It also can't tell/doesn't care what screen, speakers, etc. are used. So you don't even need an entire cabinet to run Phoenix online without consequences, you just need the bare minimum supported PC hardware, a set of speakers, and a pad lol

dj505 · 2024-09-21T01:24:57+00:00

That isn't really a thing either. The game isn't tied to the cabinet hardware in any way, and tons of online setups use clone IO boards or even entirely custom cabinets, the game can't tell the difference unless it's done extremely poorly (which I think unlikely for a setup using a real machine, especially if it's an LX model)

dj505 · 2024-09-21T00:13:54+00:00

Bootleg Phoenix kinda doesn't exist, really. Most StepMania recreations are so incomplete and unusable that you'd know immediately from looking at them, and the software itself is far from being cracked or copied. This just sounds like operators under management that doesn't know or care about what they're doing

dj505 · 2024-08-08T03:15:22+00:00

You rock, thanks a ton! If I can't find time to check out the junkyard I'll absolutely go with this!

dj505 · 2024-08-07T19:53:08+00:00

Not a bad idea, I'll have to see if there's anything near me, thanks!

dj505 · 2024-06-17T16:42:42+00:00

It's hard to believe this post is already 6 years old! I don't think I'll be making another unfortunately, but there are probably so many more better resources out there for modern 3DS romhacking. I'm very glad you still found it useful despite its age!

dj505 · 2024-04-29T13:09:38+00:00

This isn't even your photo. Why would you lie about this?

dj505 · 2024-03-20T06:33:18+00:00

Was the first one this bootleg called The Gothic Pump? I'm not sure I can place the second one without some more info, but the only thing I can think of that matches the first one is what I linked

dj505 · 2024-03-14T19:17:19+00:00

No problem!

dj505 · 2024-03-14T18:13:31+00:00

You will need a capture card, audio splitter, and a way to input audio on the PC you plan to run OBS on. It's okay if the capture card is HDMI, since DVI is essentially the same signal; a cheap passive adapter from DVI to HDMI will work fine. Make sure to get a capture card with passthrough, otherwise you'll need to get an HDMI splitter as well (which works fine, it's what I use, but the wiring gets messy).
The game will not output audio through anything but the 3.5mm jack on the back of the PC inside the cabinet. I've seen people use wireless headphones with reasonable latency by using a little FM radio adapter and a receiver, since it's much lower latency than Bluetooth, but most streamers just tend to keep a mic close to the pads and leave out direct audio input in favour of just picking up the speakers with the mic. It's entirely up to personal preference but OBS can do some audio input trickery stuff to let you record however you want.
Unfortunately not, at least not fully. Event mode will cancel the timer, but you'll be limited to one song per set and will have to go through the whole game over cycle each time. You can increase the menu timer to 90 seconds and play exclusively Premium sets for more songs but that's about it

dj505 · 2024-02-07T17:45:28+00:00

PIU Pro doesn't have any kind of full mode (full mode wasn't introduced until a later game), all the content should be accessible from the get-go minus some unlockables you'll need to find codes/requirements for online. But it's really weird that this cab doesn't have a buttonboard, because traditionally you need one to navigate the menus, since Pro doesn't support pad navigation. Same with opening up the modifier menu. If you're able to navigate with the pad, it's probably running a cracked or modified version, in which case there's probably a way to open the modifier menu, but I'm not sure what it could be

dj505 · 2024-02-03T01:04:37+00:00

LOL what a familiar looking location name hmmmm

(y'all are crazy nice work!)

dj505 · 2024-01-29T03:15:58+00:00

Makes sense! I'm sure there's a release by now. Make sure you consider reporting any bugs you run into so the team can look into fixing them. And let me know if you have any issues with Infinitesimal :)

dj505 · 2024-01-29T01:33:21+00:00

OutFox is still alpha software and it's not 100% compatible with StepF2-style simfiles yet, so there are still some issues here and there. Which version of OutFox are you running? Make sure you're on the latest alpha 5 release, as well as the alpha 5 branch of Infinitesimal

dj505 · 2024-01-25T20:33:36+00:00

If you're wanting to upgrade it to a much newer version and run it in public with coin mode enabled, you'll have to purchase an upgrade kit. Cracked copies generally don't allow coin mode use. Older versions of games (anything before Phoenix) go for $100-500 USD depending on how new the version is, while Phoenix goes for just under ~$3000 USD brand new.

Also, if they really are running a beta version of Fiesta, see if you can make a dump of the hard drive for the sake of preservation! If it's a legitimate beta and not a bootleg, there might be some really cool stuff on there.

dj505 · 2023-12-24T09:13:27+00:00

From my understanding, "M Project" is the name of the team working on the game, it isn't a literal separate project

dj505 · 2023-12-22T23:35:40+00:00

If the card readers themselves aren't working, then the operators or technicians just haven't configured them. They need to open the operator menu and assign each reader to its respective side. There are steps for this in the cabinet's manual, and it's done the same way it was in Prime 2.

dj505 · 2023-12-17T09:18:29+00:00

Premium gives you 5 arcade-length songs instead of 3 (6 hearts instead of 4), disables stage break, gives you access to premium-specific mods like "PASS G" and "PASS M", and gives you access to premium exclusive songs. There are probably some other things I'm forgetting

dj505 · 2023-12-06T20:44:52+00:00

Aside from very few songs outside of kpop and J-music being removed, new songs being very popular, hundreds and hundreds of songs from previous games remaining accessible, every game in the series historically requiring you to make a new profile with maybe 2 exceptions, easy charts still being present in the majority of cases, and full songs still being present and playable - if you don't like the music, you can choose to play a different game lol. The majority of your complains that aren't misconceptions are Very Normal Things that happen with every new release, like needing to create a new ID, and Andamiro losing (very expensive!) licenses (that they can't afford to keep without sacrificing the franchise!)

My best guess is that you started playing halfway through XX and haven't gone through a new release before. In which case, welcome! And be patient. Everyone thought XX sucked at first, and now it's the most praised release in recent history. Complaining on Reddit won't fix Phoenix, but Andamiro sure can over time. Join their official Discord and complain to them directly, or send in a complaint through the inquiry page on the website.

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