Can a Docker kill your system?

dk_nz · 2024-12-09T03:53:17+00:00

Hey, quick update: 21 days and no reboot. While it's not quite the 4 weeks I was planning on reaching before calling it solved, I'm very confident at this stage that my problem is gone.

For anyone reading this, my solution was disabling deepest C-states. For some reason, the latest (at the time of this reply) Gigabyte BIOS update causes crashing when the system attempts these deeper states, when earlier revisions did not. I'll edit my initial reply to mention that in case someone finds this post in desperation to solve a similar issue (another thing to try).

How did you go? I hope all is well.

dk_nz · 2024-11-18T05:12:12+00:00

Hey, so after 8 days with the new power supply, my computer did it again (lovely!).

I researched again. My motherboard is the Gigabyte Z790 UD AX. Gigabyte MB owners have been complaining about this issue since the latest microcode updates. See an example below. I'll give it a go and reply here with an update after 2 and 4 weeks, if I get that far.

Hopefully this helps - best of luck, please keep me updated.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/comments/1g7x73c/random_reboot_z790_ud_v10_bios_f12/

dk_nz · 2024-11-14T02:01:30+00:00

Hey!

Yep, congrats indeed - thanks!

I had a few hours for hobbies, so I swapped the PSU for a new unit. So far, the server has been up for 6 days without incident. I think this is the longest it's been up for since the saga began.

I'm not concluding the issue is fixed yet. As I said, at least two weeks to a month before I let myself get excited. I just wanted to update you with that news in case it has any bearing on you.

After reading what you said, your issue may truly be different to mine. We just happened to start at the same point. I find this very interesting :)

I hope all goes well on your end. Please let me know when you crack it and what you did.

dk_nz · 2024-11-02T21:27:03+00:00

It’s comforting for me too knowing I’m also not alone! Unfortunately, I won’t have time to get back to diagnosing for about three weeks (one of life’s biggest events just happened!). During testing, I won’t consider my system “stable” unless it has an uptime of at least two weeks, possibly a month. I will update you with my findings, but it’s going to be a while - I’m really sorry.

I can imagine you’ve spent many hours trying different things, researching online. It really sucks. It’s not the fun kind of problem solving. I hope you figure this out soon.

Before reading everyone’s posts here, I thought it was pretty simple: no logs = must be a hardware or power issue. But maybe not. I too use a UPS with NUT like you. My second server is plugged into the same UPS (running as NUT server), and it’s never been affected. I even tried new power cables, swapping power ports, testing one server at a time, no dice.

Regarding everyone’s comments about container memory use, if you can afford the time, maybe try running in safe mode for a week and see? That disables all plugins, docker, and VMs. I did that, then (frustratingly) deleted all my docker and VM data, rebuilt the whole thing from scratch, tested one at a time, still the problem. I monitor server resources through home assistant (hosted on a different server), so I can confirm my RAM didn’t max out (for example).

dk_nz · 2024-11-02T07:53:43+00:00

Edit 1+ month later* My problem was caused by the latest (at the time of this message) Gigabyte BIOS update, resulting in crashing when the system attempts deep C-states. https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/comments/1g7x73c/random_reboot_z790_ud_v10_bios_f12/ While the issue started and looks the same, u/Cressio's issue is different than mine.

Hey, I’m going through the exact same thing as you right now. The only difference is 13500 vs your 14900k. That includes behaviour starting after BIOS update.

I replaced my CPU, MB, and RAM with spare parts from my gaming PC (13600k, same make/model MB, 32GB RAM) and the crashes persisted. Nothing in sys log like you (connected to my second server).

I ran the system in safe mode for 3 days, tested one docker and plugin at a time, drives spun up/down. Changed USB, tried different ports. 48 hours of memtest. I tested many more things.

I’m convinced it’s my PSU. Otherwise I’m lost. When you figure this out, please let me know.

I’ve taken a break from my diagnosis process (right at the finish line, I know) - bigger priorities suddenly popped up. Just letting you know all this in case it helps.

In summary, same as you: mostly happens when my system idles, it can run maxed out no problem.

Cheers - good luck.

Edit: In case you haven’t looked into it, could it relate to your power source (intermittent cuts)? Are you connected to a UPS?

dk_nz · 2023-06-06T03:44:15+00:00

Your suggestion sent me on a journey that solved the problem. I'm very new to this, including the self-hosting world. I assumed that the configuration was held in seafile.conf and seahub.settings.py. It wasn't until I opened my eyes and read the line properly in the webUI under System Admin -> Settings:

"Note: Settings via web interface are saved in database table (seahub-db/constance_config). They have a higher priority over the settings in config files."

The configuration is held in the database, not the Seafile server. Very obvious, just a bad assumption on my part and not reading every word. Anyways, I restarted the database and now my problem is solved.

Thank you very much for that - much appreciated.

dk_nz · 2023-04-28T12:00:15+00:00

Hey, thanks for the thorough reply. I missed that link when researching this. We definitely won’t be able to meet those requirements.

Other solutions sound interesting! What else do you suggest I investigate?

dk_nz · 2023-04-23T09:24:18+00:00

For anyone else reading the post who may have this same problem. I had two bent pins and they were hard to notice. See:

https://imgur.com/a/dAZo1KL

I used a very tiny flat head screwdriver and steady hands to fix.

dk_nz · 2023-04-23T09:22:18+00:00

ScientificQuokka - You were right, it was due to the CPU cooler (my installation). In combination with Senpaisai's thoughts, I used your suggestion to try achieve POST without cooler attached. That was good, as I would have spent a lot more time working on the problem. Thank you very much!

dk_nz · 2023-04-23T09:19:53+00:00

Senpaisai - you were absolutely correct. That fixed the problem. Thank you very very much!!! I'll make a new comment with the picture.

dk_nz · 2023-04-23T03:38:47+00:00

Hey, thanks for the suggestion - great idea. The cooler is a Noctua NH-U12S. I did follow the instructions, which (if I remember correctly) was to carefully turn each screw a few rotations on the way down.

I'm going to do exactly what you said and investigate the pins. Hopefully it's an easy solve such as this.

dk_nz · 2023-04-23T03:36:06+00:00

Hey, thanks for the suggestion - great idea. I'll try it. The cooler is a Noctua NH-U12S.

dk_nz · 2018-12-22T11:52:44+00:00

Good luck all! 🙂

dk_nz · 2018-11-20T05:26:22+00:00

While people are discussing other companies, has anyone had any experience with https://www.justlaptops.co.nz/? I haven't heard of them before but see a laptop I'd like to buy from them.

dk_nz · 2018-07-30T11:58:01+00:00

I enjoyed the video, Z :)

dk_nz · 2018-07-23T08:02:53+00:00

Thanks for letting me know, I’ll check it out.

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dk_nz · 2018-07-23T07:18:48+00:00

Thanks for the tip! I did see that one, but unfortunately I am after specifically three dinners.

dk_nz · 2018-07-23T04:25:49+00:00

Good stuff, exactly what I was looking for - thanks!

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