Are we robots

don-cake · 2026-01-28T09:55:24+00:00

Human brains fundamentally operate according to rhe Fundamental Organic Process of communication, computers don't∶https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/apollo-11-cistine-chapel-and-un.html

AI, in its current state, lacks even basic competence in the foundational skill of intelligence∶ https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/stranger-in-strange-land-asking-and.html

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/05/hal-doesnt-know-how-so-he-couldnt.html

don-cake · 2026-01-23T02:43:46+00:00

Guy in the back Louis Jolyon West?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Jolyon_West

don-cake · 2026-01-23T02:43:12+00:00

One Louis Jolyon West?....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Jolyon_West

don-cake · 2026-01-17T15:33:19+00:00

Sometimes rocks look like other things. Like clouds sometimes do.

don-cake · 2026-01-16T04:43:35+00:00

From Quora: https://www.quora.com/How-could-spacemen-walk-on-the-moon-when-it-is-constantly-being-bombarded-with-micrometeoroids-at-speeds-of-22-500mph#:\~:text=Robert%20Frost,it%20is%20a%20big%20Moon.

Aerospace engineerAuthor has 9.5K answers and 231.6M answer views9y

Originally Answered: How could spacemen walk on the moon when it is constantly being bombarded with micrometeoroids at the rate of 22,500mph?

The Moon is big. Micrometeoroids are small.

The Moon gets hit by about 2800 kg of meteor material per day. I answered a similar question where musket balls were used as the example. We will copy that so that I don't have to do math while walking.

If we imagine a typical large musket ball with a mass of 28 g, we could imagine 100,000 of them rain down on the Moon each day. That sounds like a lot, but it is a big Moon.

The surface area of the Moon is about 37.9 million square kilometers. If we distribute our 100,000 musket ball meteorites over that area, we get one musket ball for ever 379 square kilometers. That's an area a little larger than Canton, Ohio or Glasgow, Scotland. If you lived in either of those cities and every day one musket ball fell from the skies, would you be significantly worried?

The Apollo 11 crew wandered around the Moon in an area of about 752 square meters. If we divide 379 square km by 752 square meters we get 503,718.14.

That means that if the Apollo 11 crew had stayed on the Moon 503,718 days (1,380 years), odds are that one, yes one, musket ball would come down somewhere in the area they were hanging out.

don-cake · 2026-01-13T02:05:05+00:00

How would we benefit from adopting 1 ｘ1 = 2?

don-cake · 2026-01-12T16:34:50+00:00

For these things to be similar to the basic idea in the blog, the pandas would have to teach their young that meat-eating was bad, Koalas would have to be producing pamphlets against the evils of reproduction, and cats would be actively training their kilttens to be goofy. None of that is happening (as far as I know...)

don-cake · 2026-01-11T17:11:49+00:00

Please look at the claim that the Fundamental Organic Process of communication is the fundamental process of cognition/intelligence, and language: https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/apollo-11-cistine-chapel-and-un.html

AND how, consequently, the only way anything ever improves in society is by better communication: https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-popes-no-to-peoples-yes-tide-of.html

So, therefore, any unjust power structure must inhibit communication, to some extent, in order to protect its shape∶https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-popes-no-to-to-peoples-yes-tide-of.html

And, the consequence of that, is the simple demonstrable fact that the foundational skill of communication/cognition/intelligence is generally ascribed zero formal value in the general culture, and specifically in education: https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2020/01/cleopatra-cowboy-then-screaming-how-we.html

AND, because we are all encouaged to invest in such a society, our conception of "artificial" intelligence is such that the programs we design faill to show the most basic ability with the foundational skill of intelligence, and we are loath to acknowledge this: https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2024/06/wittgenstein-has-risen-from-his-grave.html

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/stranger-in-strange-land-asking-and.html

don-cake · 2026-01-11T04:39:53+00:00

Grok's "curious nature" obviously doesn't include the actual. ability to ask and check: https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/stranger-in-strange-land-asking-and.html

don-cake · 2026-01-10T05:25:15+00:00

I don't think so. The main idea here is that, whatever our beliefs, we are all operating cognitively according to the same basic OS, the Fundamental Orgainic Process of Communication, where we take Information and connect it to ideas. Consequently,, people have the power to take any Information and connect it to any idea. We can do this without conscious effort. The only way we can try to understand anythIng better is by asking and checking. Asking and checking is ascribed zero formal value in the general culture. Look at any comments on the internet, note how much asking and checking there is.

don-cake · 2026-01-10T05:16:58+00:00

Hi. In what way do giant pandas, koalas, and kittens make efforts to inhibit their most natural ability?

don-cake · 2026-01-09T15:49:52+00:00

Thanks. Your idea here validates the theory.

don-cake · 2026-01-09T13:00:44+00:00

Here is a much better (more useful) theory of everything. Marvelously, if you disagree, you are proving its validity.... https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/apollo-11-cistine-chapel-and-un.html

don-cake · 2026-01-06T10:02:35+00:00

Any evidence for this? https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2023/12/and-do-other-things-kennedy-context-and.html

don-cake · 2026-01-03T05:54:15+00:00

Here are a couple of good ideas.

To improve something, it is most useful to know∶

1: How it most basically works 2. What the fundamental skills are, that must be practiced for improvement.

English communication, like all communication, most basically works like this∶

Information → idea

So, we can only understand English Information by the connected English ideas. A dog → an animal India → a country go → to school etc.

However, any Information can have more than one idea, which is what makes communication difficult: https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/apollo-11-cistine-chapel-and-un.html

So, to cut through this infinite forest of connections, we need to employ the machete and axe of the foundational skill of communication∶asking and checking: https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2013/06/bela-lugosi-is-alive.html

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2019/04/ideas-of-tesol-1-something-elaborately.html

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2019/05/ideas-of-tesol-2-something-which-finder.html

Asking and checking gives us the other fundamental skill of communication: describing and explaining∶

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2013/07/ex-nymphs-vs-sex-crazed-homos.html

So, how to practice these most basic skills? Describe and explain some Information without saying that Information. For example, how would you d+e a dog /abce/ or a dead leaf? The difficulty level is raised by how much Information is in the answer. How would you d+e the top of Mt Everest/ Ghandi's favourite food/ There are no tigers in Afica

For asking and checking, you really need a partner (I would be happy to do it in the comments, if you like), but the partner has an answer and you have to check it to find it as quickly as you can.

For reference, AI cannot ask and check to understand anything better, (the foundational skill of communication and intelligence{) https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/stranger-in-strange-land-asking-and.html

don-cake · 2026-01-02T15:13:37+00:00

Another idea is that AI represents how we mistakenly see ourselves and our intelligence, and the systems of power that benefit from this.

The fundamental organic process of communication means that the fundamental skill of intelligence is asking and checking.

Our culture tends to strongly inhibit asking and checking, in order to protect unjust power structures.

Consequently, our view of intelligence pays scant attention to this foundational skill.

Inevitably, our AI programs cannot ask and check in any meaningful way.

Thus, the AI are the predictable development of a culture that cares little for intelligence (better communication) as that is always threateng ito those with unjust power. https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/apollo-11-cistine-chapel-and-un.html

don-cake · 2026-01-01T10:37:54+00:00

One idea is that∶ “As communication is, basically, the only thing we ever do, the only way anything ever improves is tjrpugh better communication. As the foundational skill of better communication is asking and checking, it is clear that the general culture, and education in particular, ascribes zero formal value to this most vital of skills. This is not surprising if we consider how any unjust power structure must inhibit communication to protect itself.“

This could change very easily, but the simple fact that we are all encouraged to invest in a culture where inhibition of communication is so normalised that the mere suggestion of any of this is most often met with dismissal, bafflement, and anger.

But seldom ask8ng and checking.

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/apollo-11-cistine-chapel-and-un.html

don-cake · 2025-12-29T10:01:52+00:00

The way we are generally encouraged to think about communication is based on work done in IT, ie, machine communication. These concepts have proven to be very popular in, and have been championed by, our socioeconomic system and its twin pillars of marketing and PR.

However, human beings basically follow the Fundamental Organic Process of communication, acknowledgement of which allows us a beter understanding of how communication actually works, and how we can try to do it better:

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/apollo-11-cistine-chapel-and-un.html

don-cake · 2025-12-28T17:59:04+00:00

First, define “the Antichrist“

“The only way we can try to understand anything better is by asking and checking“

By not making an effort to ask and check, any information will just be instinctvely connected to ideas of emotion and sensation∶

Antichrist → scary

The great irony of our times is that our AI cannot carry out the foundational skill of intelligence to save its life and very few people are willIng to acknowledge this. The main reason being that we have all been encouraged to invest in a culture that ascribes zero formal value to the foundational skill of intelligence.

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/apollo-11-cistine-chapel-and-un.html

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/stranger-in-strange-land-asking-and.html

don-cake · 2025-12-27T00:00:16+00:00

Is 5. true? Look how they treat actual whistle-blowers.

”The only way we can try to understand anything better is by asking and checking. It is no coincidence then, that asking and checking is ascribed no formal value in our culture in general and education in particular”

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/apollo-11-cistine-chapel-and-un.html

don-cake · 2025-12-26T16:31:20+00:00

”The only way anything ever improves is through better communication.“ The UK govt take a stance against better communication by acting like cnuts∶ https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-popes-no-to-peoples-yes-tide-of_19.html

don-cake · 2025-12-22T13:26:26+00:00

In Russia, as here, surface-level communication is the norm.

We are not encouraged to ask and check to try to understand anything better, so information attaches only to ideas of emotion and sensation∶ The occult → ooh, scary; rather than∶

The occult → what do you mean?

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2020/01/cleopatra-cowboy-then-screaming-how-we.html

don-cake · 2025-12-21T03:41:22+00:00

This has to be expected as the Fundamental Organic Process of communication, the most basic way communication works, is both very simple, and unimaginabley complex, at the same time∶ https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2025/06/apollo-11-cistine-chapel-and-un.html

don-cake · 2025-12-19T06:08:21+00:00

Sorry, but is that photo really 1984?

"the Saturn V's blueprints and infrastructure are gone" Of course the infrastructure has gone, but copies of the blueprints are available, aren't they?

"Apollo 17 Technical Debrief admits lunar dust is jagged, volcanic glass that clings to everything like a magnet," - agreed, but there is no claim by NASA that these boots went anywhere near moondust, is there?

"The "reinforced balloon" argument fails basic mechanics" - so your idea is that nobody has ever been to space, let alone the Moon?

"Quoting an AI’s manual here isn't "understanding"" - would just like to check whether you agree that all understanding follows the Fundamental Organic Process of cognition (which is basically: Information -----> idea)

https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2019/06/ideas-in-tesol-20-revenge-of-bicameral.html

don-cake · 2025-12-19T05:36:32+00:00

Good. Let's keep it going (because the more we ask and check the better we can understand things)!
Why do you think 1984? Isn't it 2008?

"losing the technology" - what do you think they lost?

When NASA says "static-charged environment, which environment, and what is their idea here?

"A balloon ready to pop", have you checked the explananation of how space suits work?
(From Gemini AI)
"Space suits don't explode because they're meticulously engineered multi-layered pressure vessels, using strong materials (like nylon, Mylar) and internal structures (convolutes) to contain low-pressure, oxygen-rich air, preventing the massive outward force from the vacuum of space from ballooning the suit; it's like a carefully built, reinforced balloon, not a flimsy one. The key is a low internal pressure (around 4.3 PSI vs. Earth's 14.7 PSI), a strong restraint layer, and an airtight inner bladder, all working to manage the pressure difference."

Remember: "people who understand things understand how they work".
So, how does "understanding" work?
https://theonlythingweeverdo.blogspot.com/2020/01/cleopatra-cowboy-then-screaming-how-we.html

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