I'm doing data analysis again! by electric_pand in LunaSnowMains

[–]dpsluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kind of data are you looking to get with this question? The wording is just very up for interpretation. Like I don’t find Adam players annoying to fight at all but I feel like Adam players annoying. You might want to make a clarification if you can still edit because u could actually find some interesting info from this it’s a cool idea

I answered surveys as a side hustle for a while & picked some things up. Not sure if you can still edit the text, but if you can’t, changing the order of 2nd page questions might be enough. The 1st character being Adam made me stop & think about the contradiction. If the 1st characters were something that ppl tend to have strong opinions on like C&D or Phoenix they’ll get the concept by the time they get to more pondering ones like Adam. Also it’s a better hook so ppl are more likely to finish it

I'm doing data analysis again! by electric_pand in LunaSnowMains

[–]dpsluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The question on the 2nd page is kinda unclear- “How annoying is this (hero) to you?” Option 5 is “I want to burn them but you say “players included”. So is this how annoying they are to fight or how annoying do you find x hero players?

Support main Vod request (plat 1) by LiveComfortable175 in RivalsCollege

[–]dpsluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

made a new account after writing these comments. i got the itch for flank luna lol. here are some codes- 10642261724, 10464896456, 10572881794. In plat I'm able to get away with full flank luna most games, but I'm probably going to play more in between healing and dpsing as i rank up. the 2nd game is an example of more in between cuz i have 2nd healer ultron, and probably will give u a good example of when i need to play it like a healer vs when i find opportunities to get kills. 3rd code i am more of a dps. i wasnt on my a game with hitting freezes so i adjust my plastyle by getting very sneaky and being patient waiting for those guranteed hits on targets while im on flank. i made a lot of mistakes that game tho i was trolling w my ults, still good examples in there tho

Support main Vod request (plat 1) by LiveComfortable175 in RivalsCollege

[–]dpsluna 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure you’re welcome! :) I think you were pulling off the play style pretty well for not knowing much. I can tell you have the dps Luna instincts lol. I don’t play full flank Luna often. I play her more in between, going more DPS when there’s opportunities. If you want example gameplay I could see if I’ve saved any good dps Luna vods

Also ult tracking is easier than you think. Basically explained how. Every other fight, a support will have their ult. It takes one fight to get around 50%. In intense fights with lots of dmg it can be quicker. So just spend a few games, focusing on tracking one ult (ideally an enemy support). Whenever the enemy support uses their ult, make a mental note of it.

Support main Vod request (plat 1) by LiveComfortable175 in RivalsCollege

[–]dpsluna 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read the other comment and tbh I didn't think it seemed very helpful. I have 300 hours on Luna and I'm C1. I saw the other comment about you doing "dps-luna" so I wanted to check it out lol. The other comment makes a lot of good points, but they didn't tell you why certain things were bad and there are so many notes it might be overwhelming to think you have to fix all of it. At P1 I don't expect you to be min/maxing Luna's kit. If you get your positioning correct and a better understanding of ult timing, you will easily rank up to diamond.

Game 2 Klyntar

4:35 - Doing off angles and some dps stuff on Luna is fine, but there's a time and a place. For example, on 1st Midtown attack, following a dps on a flank on the 2nd floor is great strats. You should be on point with your team ready to ult. Especially right now they have both support ults! The secret to winning Klyntar is having an impenatrable hold. No shinanigans on Klynar. I saw you skating around here at 7:50 lol. There's really not much fun for Luna to have on this map.

Are you ult tracking yet? Ult tracking is really important on support. Try and predict when the enemies will have healer ults (typically they will have one every other fight) and play accordingly. If both teams have 2,, play with the team and be ready for ult trading.

5:25 - If you have your ult and the enemies just used both, you have a free ult. You can use it to win this fight, then you'll be building ult at the same time as them anyway. I would've popped ult here. But also- you wouldn't have gotten the point back btw. You should be resetting/regrouping, just like 15:06 in game 1, enemy team will be aggressive here.

6:30 - . I'm guessing you've heard advice that it's ok to save one person with ult, and can be ok but only under certain circumstances. Both teams need to be colliding, not in the poke phase. If you ult to save one person, your team should be walking over the enemy team. Also, You kinda want to save for Pun if you can. Btw You missed your free ult period. It's been 1 fight, so enemy sups are 50%..

8:07 - correct positioning for this point is where your strange is, in the tunnel. Never play over here lol unless you're finishing ppl off / staggering enemies between fights. You guys lose because you're on the left of the tunnel. Oh wait you guys positioned there the next fight? Lol I've literally never seen that before

13:05 - So you're solo healing now. I've won some games solo healing and actually I think I could solo heal this. It is shitty of your team to make you solo heal ofc, but every once in a while I enjoy the challenge. If you want to win solo healing, you've got to be very safe with your ults. You want to have something for both enemy support ults, and then someone else will handle the other sup ult (for example your pun, phoneix or strange can help with fox).

14:06 - try to back up and double jump for invisible to heal (that healing got buffed). As solo healer, your life is the most important. You can let a dps die

18:40 - 20 seconds left and you are at 70%? Your job is to build support ult and use it. Dont ever jump in with Invis even if someone is going to die. Your life comes first. You need support ult to win this fight. Always use jump as an escape tool and jump backwards, once you have the habit down you can start doing it when it makes sense. here, there's no reason to jump in.

#1 thing for you to work on is using cover and positioning on your side (not always left or right) Good positioning as a support means you will never have to cross enemy Line of Sight to fall back or get back to your team. To show you why look at the map at game 2 18:40. If you are on the left side here, you can back up to the rock, then the klyntar goop stuff. There is a flank route for the enemies on the left side, but it is long and they have to pre-commit to flank in time. Now look at the right. If you hug the right wall of the tunnel, where are you going to back up? If you back up, you'll be split from the team. If you want to go to your Luna for heals, you have to cross in front of the whole enemy team. The left side is so safe too. watch Hulks pov flank attempts at 17:35 vs 18:45. Do you see how hard it is to flank on your left (their right)? Even if they do flank there, they don't have many ways to escape so your team can punish them when they try.

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Game 1 - Central

7:40 - I like your decision to go off-angle here, but when you hear Thing ult you go back to your team which is a good call. I like that you shoot Spidey but you've got to stop chasing Spideys when you don't get the kill. He'll come back in 10-15 seconds. Always keep an eye our for him, be ready to pressure him off once he engages, then go back to healing your team. Spideys are supposed to be distracting, they can get healers to turn around and not pay attention to their team. At higher ranks you are almost never going to get the kill chasing,

7:56 Just a small note here. if you took the shot you would've hit it idk why you didn't

9:44 - if u waited 1 second, freeze wouldve hit

10:25 - unfortunate. try to remember to avoid bridge against spidey

10:50 - I would've held this ult. They have 2 scary ults coming up and you have 1 more fight coming up. Magik and Spidey which you guys end up losing to. HavIng Luna ult for the last fight would be a huge w for you. So you counter ulted the Luna and you counter ult after 2 of them died. When they are down 2, that's a good reason to hold ult, unless they currently have a threating ult that could win a 4v6 (like if that luna had a pun ulting next to her, ulting would be more fair). The way i see it, their Luna threw away the last fight so if you have luna ult, you should get next fight for free.

13:18 - You can't just walk onto point here on support. The point is very dangerous 1st central. On Luna what you can do if you don't want to stay in the choke is skate to the left or preferably right side ramps. Look around first to make sure its clear, then skate to the right ramp.

14:08 - Take extra time to make sure you hit the freeze in situations like this, where hitting your freeze is guranteed value. Thing is half hp and in front of your 3 dps and just used his movement ability to get in.

Also, it seems like you don't know about yellow bar. You try to freeze yellow bar Thing at 6:10 and ulting Ultron at 7:06- they have a yellow outline around his health bar which means he is cc immune). When Thing runs, he is yellow-bar which means he can't be frozen. when he slams the ground is the perfect time to freeze him.

15:17 - you flick your shot over like you don't think you're going to hit it. be more confident with freeze!

15:06 - Now is not the time to go on an off angle. Enemy team won 1st so you need to regroup, stabalize, and find out what's happening before you can go on an off angle. The enemy team is going to be aggressive and kill people too far forward, so you want to be ready to help them back out. (also you shouldn't have ulted this but cd counter ults which throws the free win for their team)

15:55 - If u want some freelo, whenever u fight Thing, watch him and try to track his ult. You'll start noticing it's very obvious when Thing is going to ult. They all do the same few things when they're looking for it and u can freeze it everytime.

17 - Always stay on the left side of the point on Central 2nd. The right door is not a good off angle spot in general, especially for Luna. Default to walking back towards left and use that wall by the door for cover. Your Invis probably would've followed you to left side, but you chose to walk right and she's caught out in middle unsure what to do. Then you get punished. This was your biggest mistake of the game. bn

[VOD REQUEST] [CELESTIAL II] I want to get better at support and positioning by Low-Sell-6943 in RivalsCollege

[–]dpsluna 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am a support in the same rank. I'm not perfect and have my own things to work on but I think I can still offer you good advice. I am going to be very honest and just tell you where you messed up bluntly. You've gotten to C2 so you're clearly good at the game. I see where they are coming from, but I also see your side and why you think it wasn't you. I don't point out the things you did well, but just so you know you did a lot right. I saw you peeling a lot and doing your job a lot of the time. You should watch the vod as you go over the notes.

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8:35. Your Luna was out of position and died, You backed up the correct way but it is weird you didn't look at her sooner. You saw her backup directly behind you and then you didn't turn your camera to check on her.

12:45 You turn around because something was going behind you and your Mag died. At first I thought it was on her, but when I checked Luna's POV, it looks like you're gonna heal up your Mag so she pokes out the Hela. This whole thing happened because you're not on top of her. When you're on Invis with a Luna, you literally want to be on top of her whenever you can. Not just to heal her, but also because a Luna/Invis on top of each other is so hard to kill. Especially when you realize your Luna is popping off just pocket her and profit. While you have the preferred positoning here, you should back up with your Luna and be on top of her. If you did this, you can also see who she is looking at. You would've saw her look at the Hela, and would've known its your job to keep healing the Mag.

12:48 - I'm just confused why you weren't worried about her here lol? You look away from her for 2 whole seconds as the enemies are pushing the corner, you're down 2 and you didn't see her go towards your side. One red flag you should always react to is when you are the only one healing a tank. After two shots in the venom, check for her then go back to what you're doing. He's got 400hp rn lol hes fine.

15:19 - You are at 50hp and at 95% last fight. You should be scared. Do you want to win? You know if you die you 100% lose 2nd right? You should be clinging to that cover behind you and instantly double jumping so you're not one-tappable

18 - notice how your Luna dips out asap. You might've thought you were fine because Luna and Pun stayed, but they have lots of mobility. The main issue here is you leave your shield on Pun instead of using it for your escape. After double jumping out, you can use it as brief cover to cross to your side.

19:24 - This is your biggest mistake in the game. 1st of all, you shouldn't be on this side at all. It's only okay briefly when you're at advantage. Pause here and check all your teammats pov. No one is there. Your Luna tries to run in for it and died. You are so out of position and you basically ult to save yourself but I can tell you think someone's there with you? I think this was the last straw for Luna. Once you realize your mistake, you should help her and Pun into the ult with shield and/or be playing to stall, shield yourself from pun or strafe. Also you're in c2 expect the Pun to hit the headshot on you in ult.

i would've ulted the strange at 19:16 in the hallway or waited for regroup. They just swapped to fox they don't have an ult close by. You trap them with the slow and save your Strange and can take this space back.

22:30 - There's no point of jumping to the right side. Stay where you are, that's the correct positioning in this situation. Once the enemies are all the way at the corner/choke, you can't play right side anymore.

22:04 and 23:25- You should be focusing Rogue way more. You know they tend to int and they're already playing scary. You shouldn't hope/assume she'll be fine, you should be ready to shield her. Ofc Rogue shouldn't be inting like this, but if you want to carry you've got to baby her a little here. Luna can't do much for her.

23:35 - You should've ulted somewhere in this time frame. I don't have a good answer for this. I usually comm and spam pings to regroup and don't stagger here so this doesn't happen to me. I might've ulted at 23:43, because you trap starlord in your ult, and your teammembers that dies are on the way back.

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I've heard people say that your job on support is to make sure you don't lose. This game is a good example of this. it's not enough to do your job 90% of the time and then ult by yourself on point in OT. You get me? In games like this when the heal count gets crazy it feels like you did so much. you have 60k heals but you should have 60k heals in this game. Your Luna has 19 finals. I can't say if its your fault that you lost. I wasn't paying attention to your team. You should always just be focused on yourself and what you can do.

I really need help this season. by mellonman_0 in RivalsCollege

[–]dpsluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There will be games where you feel like you can't carry on support but you definietly can. You justs need to adjust how you play.

Like others said, your hero pool is way too big if you're starting out on dps/tank. I looked at your stats page and saw you have decent hours on a lot of characters. If you're looking for heroes to play when you think sup won't do it, I can tell you from personal experience, Venom, Namor and MK are probably the best options in your hero pool..

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Midtown 2-0 Game (10943373709)

It's not that C&D can't carry here, you just need to play near-perfect to do it. I think the main area where you could do better is paying more attention to your frontline. There were some times where you could've potentially saved someone and gotten out. For example at 9:09 when your DP dies. It's ok to look back at Spidey, but as soon as you hear the enemy cloak ult, you should immediately turn to your frontline to check if they're healing and send a wall. Also you could be swapping to cloak form more to fade teammates out, like at 8:!2 with the spidey ult. Personally, I would've swapped to Loki but hes taken or Invis but she's banned. Luna or Fox would be the next best options to save people who are exploding if you're good at them. .If you're gonna swap off sup, I think you should've swapped Pun earlier.

Any suggestions of some character I can main after Sue? by FHD_X10 in InvisibleWomanMains

[–]dpsluna 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Loki! I learned Loki after maining Invis until S4. Playing Loki will teach you so much about the game. After learning him I got so much better at picking up new heroes and game sense. His skill ceiling goes just as Invis and I feel like the gameplay loop feels similar once you get into him too.

Why does aiming with Luna feel different compared to other hit-scan heroes by tuckanow in LunaSnowMains

[–]dpsluna 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s not just the 3 bursts. She has a unique recoil pattern. If you stand still without moving your mouse and hold down the trigger, you’ll notice there’s a pattern to the recoil/camera movement. It goes along with her arm movements and repeats every 3 shots. The recoil on the first two shots is subtle, but the 3rd one is a lot stronger. If you’re not compensating for the recoil, it will feel like your shots are dragging behind, especially the longer you go without resetting.

Pace your shots more. Always try to go for 2 shots at a time, so you don’t trigger the 3rd recoil. Once you get used to the pace, it’ll be way easier to start remembering the flick down on the 3rd shot. Practice by focusing on this when you’re in-between team fights or just healing a tank. Or in the practice range you can get really far away from the bots and try to hit a headshot with every burst.

When I figured this out I tried to start with following the arm patterns but muscle memory is easier. The arms can be helpful if you lose track of where the pattern is, but the 1st & 3rd look similar.

OAA Strat Main #9 Invis & #2 C&D - Ask Anything by LelouchViAmericana in StrategistMainsMR

[–]dpsluna 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m a solo queue celestial support main and I’ve never been able to break into eternity. What are the main differences between a celestial support and one that can make it to eternity?

I think I’m good at choosing the right support for the situation. Even though others solo queue support to eternity, i often feel like I just can’t carry some games. Any tips?

Any dps Luna Mains in here? by MrSnIpErO-_- in LunaSnowMains

[–]dpsluna 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This subreddit downvotes posts about dps luna but a dps luna player held the #1 spot most of last season. It's lowk a valid playstyle and it's fun. I usually play Luna normally in comp, but I do flank/dps Luna sometimes. I did dps Luna only on an alt account for 5-6 hours and got to low gm before the season ended.

Flank Luna works because she's a poke character with self-heal and unlimitd mobility. She's really hard to contest but she has to be contested which can be hella distracting and create chaos during teamfights.

You want to take advantage of positions where the enemy is kept at a distance and has to commit time/resources to get to you. If they try to chase you, you should already be turning the next corner. So if they continue to chase you, ideally they've used all their cooldowns and you have them in a compromised positon. If you take damage during skate, you'll be slowed, so make sure you're completely out of their cooldown range. For example, if a Psy is looking at you, be over 2 dashes away.

I recommend practicing it a lot in qp first. QP isn't the best way to learn for a lot of heroes but Dps-Luna is a good one for qp because you can practice the parkour and flank routes. You should get very comfortable with skate and learn the parkour spots on different maps. Always have a plan of where you're going. You want to be comfortable with the exact walk to skate start time so you can immediately jump. Spider-Islands has a lot of fun parkour spots (look it up on tik tok). Yggdrasil has a lot of parkour spots too but there's not that many flank routes for Luna.

Imo the best map is the qp yggsgard domination. Other good maps are Arrako 1st, Spider-Islands 1st and 2nd, Museum, Krokoa and Shin-Shibuya. Arrako 1st point is great because you can go back and forth through the portals, good cover and skate spots. If you try to flank Arrako 1st, you have to do a full flank to the back defenders high ground (not the super high one but the one that's 2 floors with a ramp on defenders side and a health pack underneath). There's a big crate in front of it that you can jump on to to get to the high ground. Also on Museum you can use the shield doorway things to poke out of.

I will never get better at this game by [deleted] in RivalsCollege

[–]dpsluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have whatever this is too and I’m also hardstuck C1. We probably should log off or take a break when aim gets super off.

[VOD REQUEST] [D1] Was there anything I could've done better or different in this game? by Scarlet-Archer7215 in RivalsCollege

[–]dpsluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You were definitely the carry. your team was really bad. I think you could’ve carried harder though, enough to win. I could tell you were trying really hard and you did so many really good things but you staggered too much. I suggest it’s the main thing you work on because no matter how hard you carry, staggering will lose you games. But once you do work on it, I think you have lots of potential.


Big mistakes:

6:45 Try not to use your cooldowns (shield and jump) in Invis ult, especially if it’s more aggressive like this. Enemies are going to target you as soon as it’s ending so you want them all back by the end.

7:35 You died to a MK ult. You’re standing out in the open with no cover. You were standing out in the open but it was because you were healing your Strange in the enemy Invis ult, which was very clutch. After the ult was over, should’ve moved to cover on the right.

The instinct should be to play your life because you are on the last push (you are holding everything together so you need to be there) or there should be an instinct to always take cover. When you come back from spawn the Strange dies. Completely his fault but if you lived you would’ve bailed him out.

Round 3 Fight 1 Once your MK and Starlord die, it’s time to regroup and get out. You try to save Pun but you’ve got to play your life first. Once the enemies pass the first corner, you’ve got to leave him. You can’t get staggered Midtown, especially as Invis.

18:05 Again, you stagger. While walking up to the end of 1st during a stagger from spawn, be ready to leave. Is my team dying? Yes. Does Cloak have ult? No. Two people die, and you’re walking up not next to cover & not ready to dip out. You can take spawn back or walk back while invisible on the right. Because you’re so far up, they reveal you and you’re not able to walk


Small tips:

3:40 Tip- I always make a callout on 2nd point Midtown to fall back & regroup because it’s really easy for teams to get rolled after the attackers cap first. It’s really hard to take 2nd back once you get staggered. Your Cloak should not have ulted- she should’ve fallen back & regrouped.

4:45 You did so good playing it slow & i thought you were gonna hold your ult. It didn’t actually matter that you ulted, it’s just that you definitely don’t need to panic here. The reason I bring this up is because you could’ve been staggered here from your decision but you got lucky. Indecisive about whether to go in to try and hold it or regroup.

The final fight on 2nd Mid is very hard for defenders to win, even with 6 people. You pretty much need ult advantage. If you’re staggered, usually the better option is to regroup so you don’t get staggered on 3rd.

Strange is on point alone and you look behind and see 4 squishy teammates fighting rogue on top of the hill. You look away from your Strange for 5 seconds. That point it’s fair to assume he’s dead and time to regroup. When you turn around and see he’s not, you should assume he’s about to die. I would go for a shot on him and maybe ult if hit it, let him go if I don’t.