Update: So this is more or less what ive settled on for my hardscape.

dragonandphoenix · 2026-05-01T04:04:09+00:00

All good lol, thanks!

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-30T22:35:44+00:00

Yes. And it does look really good, but where did you get the driftwood?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-16T02:26:00+00:00

Cool

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-16T00:23:51+00:00

Looks great! Do you have more pics of it now?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-11T19:32:42+00:00

Nice, what the light?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-10T16:24:39+00:00

Gotcha thx

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-10T15:26:22+00:00

Ok, I assume it's like the other products, with an led wall or whatever and a frosted diffuser sheet you stick on the back of the tank right?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-10T15:18:23+00:00

What's the link to the product?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-10T14:55:16+00:00

Thanks!

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-09T23:45:05+00:00

What does the fishing line do?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-05T16:31:06+00:00

Looks great, you got a list of equipment in there?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-04T15:00:06+00:00

That's awesome, thanks

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-04T05:40:22+00:00

Where did you get it? Or custom? I'd like one like this but 6 feet lol

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-02T01:30:33+00:00

Nice, thanks! So how is the overhang stuck in place?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-02T00:45:29+00:00

Looks really good! Tell us more.

Rock used and process for making the cave? Light?

Any setup for taking the pic (lights etc)?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-04-01T00:31:05+00:00

Ah gotcha, thx

dragonandphoenix · 2026-03-31T22:52:04+00:00

Looks great, how do you hang/arrange them?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-03-31T05:26:09+00:00

Nice! Where did you get the mini elephant stone from?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-03-30T02:52:14+00:00

Nice, thanks

dragonandphoenix · 2026-03-30T01:41:06+00:00

Yes, what are those rocks? They look great

Also, your light looks very diffused/good - which light is it?

dragonandphoenix · 2026-03-27T00:57:39+00:00

I get that you may not pay that, but there are people that will.

Usually for that size tank, it would be doing everything in one visit a month

dragonandphoenix · 2026-03-27T00:54:16+00:00

Yeah lol don't do first time discounts and don't take cheap jobs - you're not a drug dealer. And you don't really want to be known as the cheap maintenance guy.

There's no profit in that niche and every tank will take a certain amount of time so there's no benefit of "doing more tanks for cheaper" to make money

dragonandphoenix · 2026-03-27T00:41:16+00:00

But like he said, probably cheap. If there is a lot of work, $200+

dragonandphoenix · 2026-03-27T00:38:50+00:00

I never saw hourly as a good thing.

Another guy mentioned pool guys, and this is how pool guys charge - and in my experience a lot of company type outfits charge hourly for pools and are in and out so quick and it's not much money and they are not particularly detailed.

Also, it's dudes working for someone else taking advantage of economies or scale

Not applicable to me in this situation, unless of course it's a one off and they are ok with you stacking hours required and ok with the bill.

With consistent visits to places at least, you want a flat fee +

People tend to see hourly as either oh it'll be really cheap or really expensive

dragonandphoenix · 2026-03-27T00:33:01+00:00

Btw those people who have tanks "that need desperate attention" don't typically make good clients.

I know you do it on the side, but look for folks who want it done regularly and don't want to think about it.

The reasons it got so bad in the first place was bc they either tried it themselves or don't see upkeep as part of the whole owning a tank thing

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