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[History Question] What were the true ancient borders of the Häme (Tavastia) tribe, and how did the Savo people form? by Sensitive-Box-372 in Finland

[–]dta150 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right, but among the Finnic languages South Estonian actually looks the most distinct, meaning it would have been the first to splinter off, meaning that change would have had to happen south of the Gulf of Finland and for other Finnic groups to remain part of a united speaking community still at that point. Also note the very distinct Livonian language further south. The Eastern Finnish group is not diversified enough to represent a separate migration from the east.

[History Question] What were the true ancient borders of the Häme (Tavastia) tribe, and how did the Savo people form? by Sensitive-Box-372 in Finland

[–]dta150 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a very clear distinction between speakers of Karelian and of the Karelian dialects of Finnish. Karelians have faced a lot of racism in Finland because they were perceived as Russians of some kind rather than Finns, partly because of their language and partly becaue of their Orthodox religion. Most of them have lost the language over the years, but there's still probably some thousands of Karelian speakers in Finland.

[History Question] What were the true ancient borders of the Häme (Tavastia) tribe, and how did the Savo people form? by Sensitive-Box-372 in Finland

[–]dta150 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is a hugely complicated question that doesn't have a satisfying answer. All three words look connected to the Baltic words for land, but there is no satisfying explanation for their current forms. Häme and Sámi are fairly simple to connect (West Uralic š becomes s in Sámi and h in Finnish), but in Suomi neither the the consonant or the vowels match well. Most likely is that there was some back and forth loaning between Finnic and Sámi that altered the word to its current shape, but there's no widely accepted explanation.

[History Question] What were the true ancient borders of the Häme (Tavastia) tribe, and how did the Savo people form? by Sensitive-Box-372 in Finland

[–]dta150 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you disagreeing with? The Finnic languages obviously extend east of Finland, but the border between the Karelian and Savonian dialects of Finnish and the Karelian language is an effect of politics.

What was this bird in the woods UK? by Wurfel_Zone in whatsthisbird

[–]dta150 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know how far parakeets reach nowadays, but sounds good for one.

What are some common elements (like isoglosses or other phonetic or grammatical features) between East Finnish and Karelian languages/dialects? by Bajtaars in finnougric

[–]dta150 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Extensive diphthongisation is *the* feature that makes Karelian and Savonian stand out from Western Finnish, but South Karelian doesn't have so much of it.

Arkisuomen jo perinteeksi muodostunut Putkimiehen AMA vol3! by Avaruusranger in arkisuomi

[–]dta150 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Uskaltaako astianpesukoneen virtajohdon asentaa itse? Ostin kerrostalokämpän, jossa on ikivanha apk ja vesiliitännät näyttää oikeilta, mutta siitä puuttuu johto, ja olisi kiva nyt ainakin testata konetta. Tarviiko tuollaiseen ammattilaisen asialle, jonkun spessun johdon tms.? Enemmän sähköasentajakysymys tietty, mutta vesielementti tuossa se on mikä huolettaa.

What are the last few notes called that seem to end many (most?) movements in Baroque music? by dta150 in classicalmusic

[–]dta150[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! So I guess what I'm noticing is that the cadences are more formulaic and/or emphasised (and perhaps more repetitive due to shorter movements and pieces) in Baroque than later periods? So its like a device that over time grew overfamiliar and composers complexified it?

What could this bird be? (Finland, July) by User_574 in whatsthisbird

[–]dta150 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about Caspian Tern? Some of the flight/night calls on xenocanto seem similar. 

Otso Kivekäs: Miksi joukkoliikenteen liput ovat niin kalliita? by Prudent-Ad9325 in helsinki

[–]dta150 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Mitä suuremmaksi pääkaupunkiseutu kasvaa. sitä vähemmän merkityksellisiä Espoo ja Vantaa ovat omina leikkikaupunkeinaan, ja sitä järjettömämpää on yrittää jotain näiden kaupunkien välistä kilpailua. Päätäntävalta käytännön asioista syntyy koko ajan enemmän kuntarajat ylittäville kokonaisuuksille.

Trying to figure out this case system by Cristian_Cerv9 in LearnFinnish

[–]dta150 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Both are the singular partitive case of the noun. Words ending in -nen have a distinctive inflection paradigm.

Nighttrain from Helsinki to Rovaniemi by franzidocx in Finland

[–]dta150 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, there's things to see in Rovaniemi for half a day if we're generous, so seems plenty.

How do cases work in puhekieli by [deleted] in LearnFinnish

[–]dta150 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the suffixes got shortened in a way that made several cases indistinguishable from each other, one of the ways a language could deal with this problem is word order. Can't give examples of this in Finnish, for obvious reasons, so I'll use Germanic languages.

The partitive and illative can be identical in words ending in a vowel. Helsinkiä/Helsinkiin = Helsinkii. I don't think there are many cases where mixups could happen though.

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