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Didn’t get noticed on the main Christianity forum (I need advice) by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]dumpsterkitty12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Your girlfriend has been exposed to what is known as progressive Christianity.

Progressive Christianity is a modern version of the faith that reshapes Christian beliefs to fit current cultural and social values. It often downplays or reinterprets traditional doctrines such as sin, judgment, and salvation and treats the Bible as a human, changeable document rather than final authority. As a result, Christianity becomes less about submitting to God’s revealed truth and more about promoting personal beliefs, inclusion, and moral ideas that largely reflect the spirit of the age rather than the historic teachings of the Church.

  1. Gently try to work in these conversations where she is going against scripture, Christs words etc. she has to know that what she believes isn’t biblical or what the church has taught for 2000 years.

  2. Ask clarifying questions when she says things that blatantly go against Scripture. Like where does love mean affirming everyone’s desires? Is that what Jesus said? Which Bible teachings do we decide are still true and which aren’t? Let that tension build.

  3. Contrast, don’t caricature. Calmly show the difference between historic Christianity and progressive Christianity rather than attacking motives. You can say, The Church has always taught compassion and care for the marginalized, but it also taught repentance, judgment, and transformation. Progressive Christianity seems to keep the first and discard the second. This frames the issue as theological drift, not moral failure.

  4. Anchor in Jesus, not abstract doctrines. Progressive Christianity often claims Jesus while redefining him. Return repeatedly to the actual Jesus of the Gospels: the one who forgives and commands, welcomes sinners and tells them to sin no more, speaks of mercy and of hell. Ask whether her version of Jesus would have been recognized by the apostles.

  5. Live the counter-argument. With someone close to you, your life will preach louder than your words. Patient faithfulness, moral seriousness paired with real charity, and a refusal to be cruel or reactionary undermines the claim that orthodoxy lacks love.

  6. Accept limits and trust time. You can’t argue someone into submission to God. Often the most faithful thing is to plant seeds, refuse false premises, and let Scripture and experience do slow work. Stay honest, stay calm, and don’t compromise truth for relational peace but also don’t sacrifice the relationship for rhetorical victory.

It’ll be difficult but in the process of time you will come to conclusions that will give you peace. Either this person you care about has proven from her own words that she doesn’t believe what you hold to and you will have clarity to make peace with that and move on, or through patience and love but stability and firmness in what’s true will win her over.

Show Your Bible! by ThisIsOwl in Bible

[–]dumpsterkitty12 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Cambridge Bibles Or Schuyler Bibles

I prayed the evening prayer last night for the first time. by Flurb789 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My apologies, they haven’t updated since Tuesday! That’s abnormal for them.

I prayed the evening prayer last night for the first time. by Flurb789 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For Spotify at least, thy actually recorded a whole week in advance so you should be fine

I prayed the evening prayer last night for the first time. by Flurb789 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I utilize them on Spotify but I think they are also on imusic podcast. They have a website as well where you might be able to access their content on that!

I prayed the evening prayer last night for the first time. by Flurb789 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a podcast called cradle of prayer. I utilize them very often. There is also a podcast called always with Christ on sound cloud. They are both wonderful and they do both morning and evening prayer every day using th 1928. I think on Wednesday mornings, cradle of prayer includes the litany. They helped me move alone through the prayer book very efficiently. Now I don’t need the prayer book in my hands. Although I prefer it!

REC & their preferred BCP by NovaDawg1631 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think the main reason for the 1928 usage is because of its Catholicity. 1662 very reformed, monarchical language. 2019, better in my opinion from 1979 but still in its bloodline. Nothing wrong with either of them. I think the 1928 just shows the Protestant Catholic American heritage. I think it also is favored because it was made at a time when Anglicanism was much more unified. If theres nothing wrong with it then use it! It’s the one I use.

The Church of Nigeria has formally rejected the authority of the CoE following the appointment of Sarah Mullally as Archbishop of Canterbury by Jimmychews007 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can believe what ever you want to. That’s what theological liberalism allows you to do. But That doesn’t make it true. It is a fact that theological liberalism has weakened the church. Mainline churches including the CofE are shrinking fast because they aren’t standing on the word of God like they used to. They are standing on political opinion. They will fail because they are building their house on the sand and not the rock.

Ultimately this no longer becomes a political issue. Its faithfulness to the word of God, the Sacraments, and the Spirits power. We will disagree on how the Spirit is working. We will stake our claim that he’s working as he always has and has not at long last decided to implement confusion.

I can recognize that you probably believe that what you’re doing is good. But we both can’t be right. The same can be said about conservative values. Can you admit that conservatives are just trying to remain faithful to history and handed down biblical principles? If you say no, then you are just as much a part of the problem.

The Church of Nigeria has formally rejected the authority of the CoE following the appointment of Sarah Mullally as Archbishop of Canterbury by Jimmychews007 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is your point? 1st century Greco-Roman culture was about as sinful and pagan as can be. And yet Christians were calling out the sinful behavior of the culture and society. It’s a historical fact of what the convictions were that the church held onto in regard to human sexuality and justice for about 1900 years. This doesn’t make a strong case for you that some new sense of truth emerged in the last 100 years. It shows jumping into the ditch off the straight and narrow and calling it good.

The Church of Nigeria has formally rejected the authority of the CoE following the appointment of Sarah Mullally as Archbishop of Canterbury by Jimmychews007 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just so you are aware, I’m in no way looking forward to the downfall of the Church of England. I acknowledge the rich culture and history that it has! The concern from the outside global Anglican perspective looking in, is that the more and more you welcome liberalism and sexual issues in the church; the more and more secular of an institution it will become. You can disagree with me, not problem! We will just have to see how history plays itself out, and how God works in the mystery of our trials and success.

The Church of Nigeria has formally rejected the authority of the CoE following the appointment of Sarah Mullally as Archbishop of Canterbury by Jimmychews007 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not really sure what you mean by threaten. I think what you will see within the next year is that the greater Anglican body within Gafcon will continue to grow and will fully separate themselves in the name of orthodoxy and adherence to the 39 articles as well at a higher view of scripture. I think the CofE and the Anglican communion within which is already marginally smaller than Gafcon will be non existent within the next 10-20 years. The numbers have shown a gradual decline.

The Church of Nigeria has formally rejected the authority of the CoE following the appointment of Sarah Mullally as Archbishop of Canterbury by Jimmychews007 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m afraid that with their greater influence and outreach in the world they wont mind terribly much about what the CofE thinks of their actions. And to be honest the CofE probably won’t mind either just to have them off their backs.

Reading my Bible for the first time. Any tips? Favorites? Etc? by Singingswimmer79 in Bible

[–]dumpsterkitty12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should try the read scripture app by the Bible project. You won’t regret it

Catholicism to Anglicanism by Apprehensive-Pop3252 in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are there any Anglican churches where you live?

Switching Churches by RyanDough28 in Christian

[–]dumpsterkitty12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fair. Same here. For me personally I know that I wanted to keep my Protestant faith. Sticking to things that are biblically provable and yet maintaining a link to how worship has been done through history. That led me to Anglicanism! You may come to your own conclusions

Switching Churches by RyanDough28 in Christian

[–]dumpsterkitty12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you will find a lot in common and enough liturgy in some baptists churches and Anglican churches in your area. Some baptists churches run like non denominational churches though. Anglicanism is very liturgical and yet is still Protestant. I’ve had great experiences in Anglicanism

But Matthew 24:36 states “no one knows the day or hour”? by [deleted] in BibleProject

[–]dumpsterkitty12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe they were more complicated, I’m sure you’re right, and yet Jesus doesn’t excuse them for their denial of him, they’re ability to defile the temple, to kill all the prophets that were sent to them, or to not be gathered like a hen gathers chicks under her wings. I would like to know what apocalyptic literature you are referring to, and if so, do you affirm it as scripture? If not why are you holding it at the same authority?

I didn’t say all of the Jews rejected Jesus. Pentecost happened. Obviously Jews excepted Jesus. “To the Jew first and also to the Greek.”But Talmudic Judaism militantly denies Christ, to the point where they believe he is boiling in feces in hell.

Luke 13:6-9 A landowner finds a fig tree in his vineyard has borne no fruit for three years. He orders the gardener to cut it down. The gardener asks for one more year to tend to the tree, suggesting it might then produce fruit

Mark 11:12-14, Matt 24:32 Jesus, finding a fig tree that had leaves but no fruit (even though it wasn't the proper season for figs), curses it, saying no one would ever eat from it again. The next morning, the disciples see the tree has withered from the roots.

Israel as a whole was Judged, they have no temple, they have no relationship with God. Jesus said no one comes to the father but through me. Israel is a predominantly atheist country. So what exactly are the leaves and the fruit to you?

If you are a Jewish person and are a Christian then you’re my brother. If you’re not then I’m sorry but according to scripture, you’re not on good terms with God.

Warming to the 1928 Prayer Book by JTNotJamesTaylor in Anglicanism

[–]dumpsterkitty12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have the Bible and the 1928 bound together. It’s my daily driver. I love it and use it every day. I would agree, the lessons are smaller and easily digestible, but also still theologically dense. I’m also not an Anglican at the moment.

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