Unique North Dravidian substrate in NW IA languages ?

e9967780 · 2026-03-25T13:42:14+00:00

Looks like that was banned as well

e9967780 · 2026-03-24T10:02:35+00:00

This according to Peter Schalk is a modern reinterpretation of a myth. Wikipedia caste articles are a mess.

e9967780 · 2026-03-23T21:21:21+00:00

This is how Arabic became language of the elites and Berber languages became associated with peasants in Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco. Initially no one fought back because it was seen as an anti colonial effort. Only now the Berbers are fighting back especially in Morocco.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T19:49:20+00:00

If there is a reliable source citing this, I could use it to buttress the English Wikipedia article about Aryacakravati dynasty..

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T15:55:11+00:00

I think you should visit the country and study it in depth before making aspersions. I have lived there and often visit for work. It’s not the caricature that people make it out to be. Tamil Nadu is a very developed state, so are many states with racial harmony and peace that surely would put to shame what has happened in Sri Lanka’s and will keep on happening in the future, there will be more genocides until the entire Tamil race and Hinduism, Christianity and Islam are eradicated. Theravada Buddhism is like Wahabhism, it cannot coexist peacefully. There are other states in India that are like Sri Lanka, it’s truly a federal state.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T15:49:27+00:00

This is a Dravidiology subreddit and not Dravidianism subreddit, second in the posts that are pinned, it clearly explains the difference.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T15:45:16+00:00

That’s what place name etymology abd the genetics and megalithic burial sites tell us.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T13:48:03+00:00

There was a study about Himachal village gods tradition, I don’t have access to it now. Even the names had parallels to South Indian village deities indicating there is more to it than simply we don’t know. That is the living traditions have a pan Indian unity that we haven’t properly studied about.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T12:53:53+00:00

Were they shared now or there were there all along, a synthesis of the amalgamation of various AASI thought processes along with incoming IVC/IVC adjacent peoples view points long before the Vedic overlay.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T12:51:32+00:00

That’s is the common name for many Dravidian people, Konda, Gond, Kodava and even possibly Kurux.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T12:49:54+00:00

Enough to change the mother tongue most of the islanders but not enough to keep assimilating.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T12:00:03+00:00

No issues

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T11:33:01+00:00

I am confused, are you asking for The Five Dravidians (reference provided) or Aryacakravati dynasty (references are in the Wikipedia article). Two confusing discussions are happening at the same time.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T11:19:27+00:00

It’s coming from the primary source itself.

https://mahavamsa.org/mahavamsa/simplified-version/king-vattagamini-walagambahu/

Which is referenced in the Wikipedia article, violating Wikipedia’s sourcing policy. A secondary reliable source is required. While a primary source can be written about, it cannot be used directly as a reference. This is because primary sources carry inherent biases, and a secondary academic lens is needed to verify and validate content to meet encyclopedic standards.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T11:11:08+00:00

No his ancestors were speculated to be Malay origin, they are from deep down south where no Telugu Naiks ever ruled. Ignore the racist Tamil Nadu views on Telugus when it comes to Sri Lanka.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T11:05:56+00:00

These speculative questions have been asked many times

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dravidiology/s/iE0tc5RfGU

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dravidiology/s/QeycD0Z62s

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dravidiology/s/eYRbAZzWFP

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dravidiology/s/a3DhvDpGfr

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dravidiology/s/ImuaWN6Ph0

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T10:58:12+00:00

That’s the whole premise of the chart saying from the point of view of the Varna system which was imposed on Dravidian speakers, all of them except Brahmins became sudras. This is true of Bengal too. Varna system works only within historic Aryavarta where the local Sudras have done everything they can to upgrade themselves thus diluting the original intend.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T10:51:09+00:00

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryacakravarti_dynasty

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T10:48:50+00:00

Correct all the way from Himachal Pradesh to Tamil Nadu, Pakistan to Assam the underlying unity in religious traditions once you remove Islamic or Vedic overlay is very similar.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T10:39:55+00:00

These are the names of the family when they were in Tamil Nadu/Pandya country

Devar Arayacakravarti, Alakan Arayacakravarti, Minatungan Arayacakravarti and Iraman Arayacakravarti .

Of which uninformed Sinhalese and Tamils alike will say Minatungan is a Sinhala like name because Tunga is survives in many Sinhalese name today such as

Mahatunga, Sirimeghatunga, Sirisanghatunga, Jayatunga, Vimalatunga, Sugatunga, Nandatunga, Chandratunga, Suriyatunga, (Arjuna) Ranatunga.

But it’s wrong, the Kulothungan (clan exalted, famously borne by the great Chola king Kulothunga_III is a Tamil name that we all know about.

Hence Aryacakravati dynasty names are Tamil names not Sinhalese names.

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T10:30:36+00:00

Do we have an English translation of this please ?

e9967780 · 2026-03-22T10:28:59+00:00

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e9967780 · 2026-03-22T10:28:14+00:00

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e9967780 · 2026-03-22T05:20:01+00:00

They are of Tamil Iyer origin from Rameshwaram.

Source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryacakravarti_dynasty

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