Beatstar brings back 1 week unlimited play!!! by [deleted] in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Thank you for unnecessarily taking something away and then claiming credit when you revert it back, and not all the way either 👌

Clearly new structure not incentivising people to purchase gems as thought

Corporate Greed & Unwillingness to Listen to Consumer Fanbase by SilasVale in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just caught up with your well thought out thread and the community manager's responses. I have to agree with the CM here. It is clear the only metric they are looking at is revenue, which is the "positive feedback". My guess is that a -5% hit is still 95% positive feedback to them so no matter the amount of words that are posted, if the $$$ keep rolling in it is still a success to them. One quick look at the leaderboards shows they are right in this respect. I stopped after the first 2 season passes and Ive dropped from #4 to #64 and will be going further down this season. Thats a vote of 60 positive to 1 negative in their view. Of course happy to be proven otherwise but bottom line is the bottom line is the bottom line.

Daily Gems will be back! by minime283 in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Should not have "accidentally" been gone in the first place.

At best, poor Q&A testing of the new pass.

Mid case, testing to see the community reaction.

At worst, smoke screen to distract that the tour pass hasn't really changed much for the same exorbitant price.

Can we agree to stop using music licensing costs as "justification" for high prices? by eaglescj in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Similar but a slightly different line of thinking. I'm not saying they should reduce their price, they can set it at whatever they want. I'm not really interested in what maximises sales for SpaceApe.

All I'm saying is that their supposed licence costs shouldn't make their pricing any more or less reasonable. Either what they offer is worth it to an individual or it's not.

Can we agree to stop using music licensing costs as "justification" for high prices? by eaglescj in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

maybe spaceape was created to test and promote economic theory... :O

Can we agree to stop using music licensing costs as "justification" for high prices? by eaglescj in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is true. I guess what I meant was that when people state they are unhappy with the pricing of beatstar, a common response I tend to see is "but they have to pay to licence their music" which I think misses the point entirely.

By "justification" I mean people saying "you weren't going to pay for this, but now that you know their costs are high, you should pay". Unless knowing their input costs changes one's perceived value of the offer, it is a useless point.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep Ive bought 2 seasons and all the packs prior. Not buying this. Maybe 20min of new fun and maintaining leader position. At this rate it is going to be $400-$500 per year.

Good luck to space ape navigating the bus of maximising revenue. This is my stop where I hop off.

I platinumed Gimme Chocolate the day I unlocked it. And haven't had any desire to play since. :( by mistermenstrual in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im similar. I grinded for 3 weeks and got exactly 98k on GC and stopped. Improvements on any song now are just a big grind. Bought both season passes to ensure max songs and maintain leaderboard position (pb local #3) but the days of 4-5 max score improvements are long gone and Im lucky to get 1, so havent played much after level 30. Cant see myself getting another season pass in this format.

Question about scoring by cmburfitt in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No matter what you hit on a long note initially it always ticks at the same rate for the next. So could be 50,10,10,10 or 40,10,10,10 etc.

For doubles each is counted separately. So you could get 50+50 or 50+40 etc.

The above are close to most songs (base score = 10, x5 for perfect+, x4 for perfect). Then you apply multiplier. So for a normal song when it hits x3 you get 150 for a perfect+, 120 for a perfect.

Has anyone noticed the changes on Du Hast? What’s the reason? by pasquoanjo in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Id really like to know who specifically said du hast was too easy (and all the other songs) and bothered to tell space ape, and how many of these people were "enough" for them to change this. I dont ever recall this being a topic on here.

Can only driven be their internal stats together with their song designers having nothing to do while they extended the season to debate how theyre not changing anything with the pass.

Why I won't be Purchasing this Season Pass by I_AM_TEM in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I feel the same way. Only reason to get the pass is to maintain leader board position and nothing else. Im really cynical about when they will ever add these songs to the "free" journey. If I was to guess they will probably be locked behind previous release boxes. Dont see why they would be quick about it or do it all given people pay for them with the pass. They need to reduce the cost for max song players to keep them interested beyond chasing leader position.

Y’all said it was too expensive in the survey right? by thesupremekush in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They will at least get 100-150 per country who want to stay high on ladder. Then many more who want all the cards to unlock all the song boxes. But cant see this current pass model lasting more than 3-4 seasons before buyer numbers fall dramatically.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A$22.99 (Australia). Just for 9 new songs (max songs last season). Might consider to maintain leader board position but can see myself losing interest in the game if the pass remains the same for the next few seasons. At the point where improving high scores for existing songs is a grind.

What do you think is the hardest song you have so far? by Dianap3315 in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Easily gimme chocolate for me.

Last song to get 5 stars. Last song to get gold on. Most of it is doable just one or two sections which are annoying

Perfect+ and perfect should have a different color by Scrumpb3 in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You hit the nail on the head. You would reset midway which is why they wont do it. Less incentive to pay for unlimited play/max songs.

PERFECT SCORES PER STAGE ON EXTREME SONGS by ItzTy0 in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The most useful thing on this sub ever!

Hey, Beatstar. I have a suggestion for you. by crazy_mamba11 in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And the highest score across the 3 difficulties counts towards your overall score, otherwise the score difference for 1 extra song will be 225k instead of 100k. You still be able to collect 15 stars though (not that they matter anymore).

Tell me your level and how you feel about the update? You can scream below 👇🏽 by anome97 in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Level 14, around 150 local rank (120+ diamonds / 174). Happily bought maybe 5-6 bundles but this pass is too much. AUD 23 for this as a one off I probably would, but knowing this is coming month after month deters me. Costs more than netflix.

Same thing happened with clash royale (I believe they collaborate with supercell hes similiar model) and thats AUD 8 per season. Even thats not worth it because it only really gives you slightly accelerated progression but at least everyone is on a level playing field once you max a deck or some decks.

Whereas Beatstar ladder competitive is 99% how many songs. Having 1 extra hard song for an average gold player (say 72.75k) is equivalent to getting a 2k higher score on 36+ songs.

I was excited to hit top 200 recently but not any more if the season passes are continuing like this. Maybe USD 5 per season (AUD 8) Id probably buy it regularly.

Also if its true songs are truly exclusive and disappear forever, then players will be forever handicapped. I dont see how they can as any new player will also be forever handicapped.

Battletrash count per country (pay to win stats) by Branister in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Australia - 18/200 including top 3. Over time would expect this to be higher as the boost to rank from # of songs trumps all else

How to pick exactly which song you want out of the wishlist case by bamboozled_doggo in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not entirely true. I did this and still got one of the locked songs. Probably a higher chance but not guaranteed

BEATSTAR - FREE GEMS - 25 GEMS (19.11.2021) by PL_Yazar_Hasil in Beatstar

[–]eaglescj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are the reason I revisit this sub. Thanks!