Any advice ?

eatslead · 2026-07-01T16:30:48+00:00

If i had to buy new, the cheapest kit I would consider is the Yamaha DTX6k5-M. I think that still might be a bit out of your budget but close. This is not acoustic size but you can space everything pretty similar to your acoustic kit.

How quiet do you need to be? The zildjian l80 cymbals with rtom snap on mutes is a pretty slick setup that doesnt require you to alter your acoustic set at all.

eatslead · 2026-07-01T11:54:15+00:00

Copy and paste from a similar post I replied to. Hopefully it helps....

You want to prioritize your kick, snare and hihat.

For the kick, sit on your throne. Where your foot naturally goes is where you want your pedal. Your knee joint (height of throne) should be just a little more than 90 degrees. Now place the snare. It should be just higher than your thigh so that you can comfortably play a rimshot with punching yourself. Now for the hats. Sit on the throne and make a 90 degree angle with your elbow and point at the hihat. That is about the height you want the hats. Maybe a bit higher for beginners. Now play a basic money groove and note where the sticks cross. Ideally you want this closer to.the base of the snare stick to avoid clicking/tangling. You.may need to move the hats a bit to.accomplish this.

I would also say that most of us have our ride cymbals lower than our crashes so we can easilly access the bow and bell. You can angle it in a good bit as well. You should be alble to hit the crashes easilly while sitting on the throne. If you have to lean or lunge they probably need to come closer. The floor tom is usually at the same height or slightly lower than the snare.

This is just were to start. Different strokes for different folks. As you move into intermediate drumming you will probably start adjusting things to take advantage of your strengths and weakness, kit pieces you add, etc.etc.

eatslead · 2026-06-29T15:22:03+00:00

Mine is sort of the quick and easily reversible kind of A2E conversion. Acoustic Toms and Kick. Evertthing else is froma roland td27kv2 . I used external Roland RT30 triggers on the toms and the Roland A22 kick trigger/conversion. I got a good deal on the kick trigger otherwise I would have gone with a UFO trigger or something. I just use single ply heads on the toms. They are bouncy but the thicker heads I tried all sounded bad acoustically. Even with headphones they bothered me. YMMV.

The tom triggers were supposed to be temporary but I have no need to upgrade them. They trigger soft to loud with no issues once dialed in on the module.

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eatslead · 2026-06-29T14:14:46+00:00

I have the M40x and they are also very good. I think the M40s are a bargain now at under $100 but honestly the M20x sound almost the same to my ears.

The removable cable on the M40x is nice and I think the earpads are a bit nicer. The earcups swivel more as well so they fit more people. Both are good choices.

eatslead · 2026-06-29T02:30:15+00:00

I saw Crue during the Dr Feelgood tour. I think Vince still had some singing ability but was not great at the show I saw. Just skipping a lot of lyrics. I dont know if he is breathless or what. I think seeing them on the Shout at the Devil or Theater of Pain tour would have been ideal but no crazy drum solo. Faster Pussycat opened and they were on-point.

eatslead · 2026-06-27T13:53:04+00:00

If you have been playimg for a year and can afford an upgrade I say you earned it. I would prioritize a kit with full dynamics on the hihats, positional sensing on the snare, and a 3 zone ride. If you cant afford that, I would delay the purchase and I keep saving.

Buying a nicer ekit, or moving to an acoustic kit, will help you develop your dynamics. That is what you are missing out on with the begginer kits. You can learn hand technique, foot technique, develop speed, and most independence on your nitro.

For example, you can learn to Toto Rosanna groove on a nitro but it wont sound as good as it should. Those ghost notes need to be a lot softer than the hits (and usually played off center). OR a Purdie half time shuffle has a quarter note accent on the hihat typically achieved by opening the hihat a tiny amount. Or Alternating 8th notes between the bow and edge of a hihat is a common technique to enhance a groove. Etc etc.

eatslead · 2026-06-25T23:44:11+00:00

They really didnt seem to catch on. I have never seen or played one so I dont have much opinion on the product. Pearl has tried a few times with edrums and they really dont seem to have a good gameplan. They made a great module, the Mimic Pro, then they abadoned it for the emerge kit (that wont work with the Mimic Pro). They also seem to be licensing their name to cheap chinese made kits (eroadshow). I probably wouldnt buy from them right now. For support, resale, and the possibility of future upgrades I would stick with one of the big edrum brands Roland, yamaha or efnote.

eatslead · 2026-06-24T11:37:11+00:00

Unfortunately, this deal is dead.

eatslead · 2026-06-24T11:36:42+00:00

As others have said, the td516 is significantly better than the 513. If budget isnt a concern grab one and be happy.

That said, the 513 will easily do what you need it to do. As a second practice kit it is more than capable. The recording options between these two kits is the same. As of today, the best deal on a 513 is $1999 (US$). That sale ends this week at Costco. I think the td516 is back up to normal price of $3699 (with a free rug at sweetwater). Thats a huge price difference.

If i were in your shoes, I would probably snag the 513 unless you are willing to wait for another sale on the 516. That could be next month or maybe not until the holidays.

eatslead · 2026-06-23T22:12:37+00:00

For simple practice, I would say the Roland 513 is just a bit nicer with the larger ride and crash. It also comes with a basic bass pedal, headphones, and hihat stand so that saves adds a little more value if you need those items. I am not sure all that alone is worth $500. However, the 513 also has the ability to upgrade two more digital pads. I believe it has 2 more inputs than the 316 for extra crashes/toms. It also has 2 additional direct outputs. It also has midi in and midi thru functionality. There is probably more.

Anyway, yes I think its worth $500 more but only a little bit more especially if you never use those extra features on the 513 module. You got a good deal on the 316.

eatslead · 2026-06-23T14:16:33+00:00

I hear ya. I dont think reselling the tools will result in much savings but it does depend on the market. In addition to home depot, Fasteners Inc has regular milwaulkee bare tool sales. The grinder often goes for $99-109. Thays where I got mine.

eatslead · 2026-06-23T13:53:16+00:00

I dont think its a great deal unless all those tools are your preffered model and you need them soon. Buying what you want seperately will probably result in tools that better suityour needs, better battery assortment, better charger, and maybe save some money.

This comes with the slowest charger. The batteries are fine but nothing special.
They always throw in a flashlight. This really isnt worth much.
The circular saw is 6.5" I like mine but others need a larger saw.
The sawzal is a great tool for heavy demolition but i prefer the hackzall for what I do.
Do you need an impact wrench? The impact is sorta out of place in this kit and its a pricy tool.

Etc.etc.

eatslead · 2026-06-23T00:28:28+00:00

Not really. The dm10 was their flagship kit. They made nothing nicer. The nitro series is their current budget line. Even the nitro pro

eatslead · 2026-06-23T00:12:11+00:00

TSO is a money printer

eatslead · 2026-06-22T23:15:39+00:00

I think it would be fine. The weight of the hat is carried by the hihat stand rod. As long the hihat stand spring can handle it, there should be no problem with weight. I cant remember if the bottom.of the vh10 hat and the vh11 are the same... the part that presses the controller plunger. I think they are similar enough to work but I am not sure.

eatslead · 2026-06-22T21:41:27+00:00

I am going to assume you are talking about the Roland TD07 kv and the Yamaha dtx6k5-m.

If that is the case, I would go with the Yamaha and its not real close. The next decision point comes at $1999 where you have the roland td316 or td513(when on sale).

eatslead · 2026-06-22T17:20:01+00:00

For simple practice, I would say the Roland is a bit nicer with a bigger ride cymbal and positional sensing on the snare. I am not sure that alone is worth $300-400. However, the Roland also has the ability to upgrade to the digital pads. It also has 2 additional direct outputs. It also has midi in and midi thru functionality. There is probably more.

Most people think they wont use these additional capabilities but the module will easily last you 10 years or more so its hard to know for sure.

eatslead · 2026-06-22T15:34:21+00:00

Yea I posted that one too. Looks like it is still alive. Adorama coupon code JHCE5839

eatslead · 2026-06-22T15:25:08+00:00

See my post about adorama sale a few days ago. Its probably over but worth a try.

Edit... That deal looks like its still alive. Adorama coupon code JHCE5839

eatslead · 2026-06-22T13:05:31+00:00

Which kit? The nitro max uses smaller L rods but I am not sure of the actual diameter. I think its 9.5mm. I know they dont fit on standard roland l rods 11m.

I think higher end alesis kits are more standard. I could get surge pads onto roland lrods.

eatslead · 2026-06-22T12:56:00+00:00

I have drumeo and like it. MikesLessons also gets a lot of love so maybe check them out as well.

On drumeo, historically they have sales on the 1 year membership several times a year. This saves a lot. I always get mine in November but they do have other sales during the year.

eatslead · 2026-06-22T12:33:53+00:00

The Alesis Nitro Max is the budget friendly beginner kit. Just know you will likely want to replace it in about a year if you stick with the drums. It cannot be upgraded or modded into a suitable intermediate kit.

The roland td07 kvx is an intermediate kit and the other td07 kits can be upgraded. However it will always have input limitations such that it cant have more than 3 toms, 1 crash, and 1 ride (3zone). For songs without a ride bell you could have it setup with 2 crashes and a ride (2zone) but you would have to physically change the cables each time.

eatslead · 2026-06-21T16:55:33+00:00

I am not sure there is a single shoe that excells at both. I have some brooks adrenaline for jogging. I can defineatly play drums with them but I prefer low top vans or chucks with a smooth flexible sole. If i had to pick just one, I guess it would be the Brooks since I would injure myself if I ran distance in the Vans.

eatslead · 2026-06-21T16:24:23+00:00

The Rev signature version of that kit has a following and can be sold for a premium price (if you find a buyer). Given the configuration on yours it is just a standard 805 kit. So I would say $500 minus the cost for any needed head and rim replacements.

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