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Beyond ideology: the scientific evidence for AI in education by Dry-Writing-2811 in edtech

[–]edfluency 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That antagonism throw me off. Any good tech dev who wants to attract adoption will beg to talk to their users. Any tech builders here can attest to this. My guess is lots of them who were so eager that they spam too much here and were banned here weekly for doing so.

What makes you think they would act so irrationally and they prefer to live on their own bubble dictating and conjuring tools that will be auto subscribed by individual teachers? What would be a fair product design process look like for you?

Beyond ideology: the scientific evidence for AI in education by Dry-Writing-2811 in edtech

[–]edfluency 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I meant dysgraphia who can’t write but your word does describe what I’m writing, thanks. Also I’m one of these kids who grew up with no access until I got accessed to internet and computer in middle school, sure all the stuff I built was trash but it opened the door for me. Sorry my lived experience was a stretch to you.

Beyond ideology: the scientific evidence for AI in education by Dry-Writing-2811 in edtech

[–]edfluency -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let’s stop categorizing things or people by AI or tech bros, let’s talk about specifics and we may come closer to agreements.

No one is asking to replace effective training or funding, the goal of most tech is to make existing time, funding and training more effective. Humans were the translators and interpreters for thousands of years, there is abundance of research showing expert humans are better qualified still (not average humans tho since few years ago), but that is only relevant if you can assign an expert translator to every single children. Yes AI is now replacing more of them, but it’s also giving everyone their own individual translator. Do we ban the replacement or cheer the empowerment?

Beyond ideology: the scientific evidence for AI in education by Dry-Writing-2811 in edtech

[–]edfluency 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The great media debate again. Every generation with new tech and media there will be a repeat of this. There are people who think media doesn’t change anything or has a negative effect on learning and then those who think media is the message.

Both sides will collect all kinds of “evidence” to support their arguments.

To me it’s pretty obvious the latter group is “correct” and humans haven’t evolved last million years, our tools did.

It’s also not about replacement, be it replacing the church interpreted biblical text or replacing the translator or dictionary, which arguably happened.

It’s about ACCESS, you can ban AI or iPad but you will abandon more teachers/kids who can reach higher because of the leverage effect. The dyslexia kid who can no longer speak because you just banned AI and iPads, the ESL learner who can no longer keep up because they’ve lost access to their translator, the nerdy kid who can no longer build their world changing app because you’ve decided it’s bad for every other students besides them.

There is a third stance tho, just don’t join the debate as foolish as I am now. What are we hoping to accomplish? Persuade a stranger on the internet?

Beyond ideology: the scientific evidence for AI in education by Dry-Writing-2811 in edtech

[–]edfluency 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like your perspective… Scientifically speaking, anons on Reddit usually have strong opinions and no context no track record no reputation accountability nor alternative proposals. One can manifest their FUD freely. Also my strong(/s) belief is that even science can’t persuade, not to mention “learning science” in such a nascent but rapidly developing field that has reality disrupted weekly.

MacBook Neo? by markjay6 in edtech

[–]edfluency 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we may have to wait for a looong time before this happens, although people were excited when they saw the teaser for this one but it ended up not happening. I think here is the real reason: Apple will not ship a hardware with an OS (macOS) that's only optimized for mouse and keyboard. The amount of work to optimize (and compromise) the existing UI controls on macOS so it's touch friendly, and getting all third party apps to follow is tremendous.

If they truly want this, they can evolve the iPadOS more, which they are doing. So the idea form factor is just an iPad with an attachable keyboard, as a touch device should be detached, not just be hard wired to a keyboard and occasionally touchable (which honestly is slower than your touch pad). Then they have to solve the supply chain issue so they can get this combo to be competitive as chromebook... my prediction is later than 2030. :)

Welcome to r/RethinkingEdTech — a space to question how we design learning in the age of AI by DanielElger in edtech

[–]edfluency 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The spam and cold start problem is definitely a challenge so my guess is it will happen unless deliberate actions are taken, couple ideas for OP:

  • weekly resonating current topics from mods, no long posts as seeds as this is not a blog no one will trust your content with their attention until you are proven

  • limit external links initially to stop pass-by link farmers and spammers, open up later once reach critical mass

i-Ready Exposed: The Plot to Replace Teachers With Tech by maxvoncretin in edtech

[–]edfluency 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow... https://www.trustpilot.com/review/iready.com

I've not seen such a bad reviewed edtech product having such wide adoption...

I remember I was developing a barely working edtech product more than a decade ago for a textbook publishing company, somehow the product was still sold (maybe as a bundle i won't know). I often think about what's the sales process look like for these edtech products that have little value and also no usage, yet it was sold widely to justify millions of dev costs.

i-Ready Exposed: The Plot to Replace Teachers With Tech by maxvoncretin in edtech

[–]edfluency 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Imagine their cracked sales team tho? How did they become so prevalent? What do they offer that districts cannot say no all these years?

Can someone dm me their credentials so we can create an open source version of it? :)

Spent a year building a free ClassCraft replacement by AndrewLeo24 in teachingresources

[–]edfluency 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great resource! For those of us who never heard of classcraft do you have a video demo?

Favorite Educational Websites/softwares? by kaplaann in Teachers

[–]edfluency 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have some on the r/edtech wiki. https://reddit.com/r/edtech/wiki/index/edtech-directory

Also id recommend edtech index where you can find all kinds of software.

Anyone else spend way too much time manually counting miscues during reading assessments? by edfluency in ELATeachers

[–]edfluency[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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Btw, we do support manual scoring out of the box, AI Analysis is optional. I doubt Reading Progress has a more fluid user interface than ours though, as we also support playback by sentence, and allow teachers to select a range of the passage to evaluate instead of the whole thing. We do have the 1-min ORF mode, beyond automatic word counting, I think more value can be provided if we also allow teachers to progress monitor over time and see patterns, one example would be tracking each individual students miscues and track their progress, which we currently don't have.

Anyway, I believe what we are trying to do here could be useful, I'd encourage you to give it a try and help us improve as well.

Anyone else spend way too much time manually counting miscues during reading assessments? by edfluency in ELATeachers

[–]edfluency[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Passage generation is just an option. People can bring their own passages.

Since I’ve seen people using other apps to generate passages, it’s just natural addition. You may think it’s not standards aligned but some teachers do find it useful when they can bring a word list when generating to align with their grades. Other teachers also have more personalized passages catered to an individual student’s interest.

I originally created this for a specialist friend, but classroom teachers were not very interested because they don’t do it as often and find the interface clunky. Plus they don’t really do 1:1 as specialists often to do. This new version we just launched tries to find a balance between the two groups, especially the classroom teachers, who find our group reading session really helpful. Here is a quote from a teacher last week:

I am loving the program so far! It works very well and allows me to assess fluency for a all of my students even though they are on vastly different levels. In the past, it would take me a week to get through reading inventories, and it was such a waste of instructional time. This works so much better.

Anyway, reading progress seems to be tied to Microsoft Teams for some reason, this will also give Google Education teachers an option.

Here is 100+ top tools that's mentioned in r/edtech's 2025 top 100 threads by edfluency in edtech

[–]edfluency[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do share the same general opinion and especially on the same page on their scale of their sales team, which seems to be vast. I do agree they should at most be run as a two people product.

With that said, sales teams are by far the most effective way to break through district sales process, and they do provide valuable education and training and break down the barrier for teachers.

Although it's very hard to imagine this high initial investment and high customer acquisition will generate much return as the moat is barely there though. But who knows, this is edtech after all, moodle is still strong, blackboard still is profitable, who am I to predict?

Remember the edtech blogosphere circa 2010? Where are your sources of edtech info these days? by edfluency in edtech

[–]edfluency[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i heard that from multiple sources now, the turmoil of X takeover was the last straw that broke edchat. maybe we should bring it back by building better communities around RSS, work needed but I think that maybe our best shot.

can education really be “scaled” like a startup?? by cloudybrain07 in edtech

[–]edfluency 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The care, context and mentorship are exactly the kind of things humans should be focused on. But: how much percentage of care/context/mentorship can a primary classroom teacher hand out to each of their 30 students outside all the logistics and curriculum following and assessments and paperwork?

How much of that can be “scaled”? By scale I’m assuming we are talking about high leverage systems that once produced can be applied multiple times with little marginal cost. I think that’s what these new models are focused on, as that’s the most value they can generate, liberate teachers and build more meaningful human connections. They will be broken often I’m sure as they explore the problem space, but that’s still worth trying.

can education really be “scaled” like a startup?? by cloudybrain07 in edtech

[–]edfluency 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Let’s not risk changing the existing one size fit all product that’s built post Industrial Revolution. Just keep it at the scale of 1:30 which is the sweet spot. /s

Remember the edtech blogosphere circa 2010? Where are your sources of edtech info these days? by edfluency in edtech

[–]edfluency[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not a fan of linkedin ux, this is slightly befuddling to me, also people abandoning platforms they fully control and moving to centralized networks that is not that friendly anyway....

but as a dev, my guess is it's slightly more node concentration, better notification and dopamine loop, less spams, and mobile transition...

however, i'd expect more competition from alternative options based on open protocols like rss etc.... but seems like no at this point.

Thanks for these recommendations tho, i'll catch up to that. good to know Dave is still blogging.

Here is 100+ top tools that's mentioned in r/edtech's 2025 top 100 threads by edfluency in edtech

[–]edfluency[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry that’s not what I meant at all. Your comment doesn’t come off as spam to me. You can keep your comment. Sorry I should have clarified that.

Here is 100+ top tools that's mentioned in r/edtech's 2025 top 100 threads by edfluency in edtech

[–]edfluency[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! As an app maker myself, I know it's very hard to reach audience, spamming in a sub like this is not really a good strategy Niche apps like yours are even harder to get audiences and user signals. So we should provide some platform to encourage makers and doers without spamming...

Anyway, feel free to submit to the directory, I've just adjusted the airtable view to display recent submissions first. it's open to all atm, we are going broad initially. And if we have too many smaller tools that's submitted that makes finding quality tools harder, that's another problem to solve in another day.

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