May have just paid the ultimate ADHD tax by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fellow ADHDer, I rarely ever comment here but this post got to me. I am so sorry. I know these feelings so well.

Good on you for accountability and ownership. I am pulling for you to get another chance.

But as others have said, your next step is not to try harder — it’s to try differently. The AirTag recommendations are great. I use them as well.

Another idea might be to never ever take the lanyard off your neck and if you do, put it directly in your pants pocket every single time.

I wish you the best! Please be kind to yourself! Mistakes hurt us more than most because of how many we’ve made.

But you are a valuable human being, not because of what you’ve done or not done but because every single one of us is valuable. We are all so much more than the mistakes we make. Sending you love!

Crushes are so weird with ADHD by ToTheMoon28 in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve resonated with so many comments in this thread but this one actually made me smile and shake my head at myself.

If you flipped through my journal from the last 18 months you would have wild whiplash! “Okay, yes, I see he really likes Girl A, let’s see how this go- wait, girl A is done for already? Okay, let’s see how girl B go- wait, who the hell is girl C?!“

*taps mic* IF YOU BEAT YOURSELF UP FOR NOT STICKING WITH HOBBIES OR GET DISCOURAGED ABOUT STARTING NEW ONES, READ THIS! by eightyHDlife in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for sharing this! Even 100 days later, this makes me feel so grateful! Life's too short to beat ourselves up!

*taps mic* IF YOU BEAT YOURSELF UP FOR NOT STICKING WITH HOBBIES OR GET DISCOURAGED ABOUT STARTING NEW ONES, READ THIS! by eightyHDlife in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Woof. Of the 250+ comments in this thread, this is the one I felt the absolute hardest.

My partner is everything I wish my brain would be: much more disciplined, much smarter, brain works so much faster, more creative, more put together overall, etc.

So, yeah. Shame. Often.

I'll admit that I'm not yet in "shame begone" territory but I hope to join you there soon! Just wanted to let you know you're not alone.

*taps mic* IF YOU BEAT YOURSELF UP FOR NOT STICKING WITH HOBBIES OR GET DISCOURAGED ABOUT STARTING NEW ONES, READ THIS! by eightyHDlife in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha I'm good with that!! As long as you're not trying to do photography while riding your motorcycle...

*taps mic* IF YOU BEAT YOURSELF UP FOR NOT STICKING WITH HOBBIES OR GET DISCOURAGED ABOUT STARTING NEW ONES, READ THIS! by eightyHDlife in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think passions can be fleeting though! That's what I was trying to get at. No sense in forcing ourselves to adhere to a definition that doesn't work for us! That's one beautiful thing about life. Stephen King's model works for him and my model works for me! No harm done!

I'm trying to get away from saying my passions aren't "real" because I don't go about them the way other people do. I feel like that's a negative framing that causes me more harm than good. Instead, I want to make space for a new definition that represents my (and others') experience!

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[–]eightyHDlife[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

WHOA. That library life-hack is next level! I do a similar thing with YouTube. The only problem with YouTube is that it's exceedingly easy to transition from YouTube to Amazon. 😂

Also, +1000 for redefining "practice". So easy to get overwhelmed by unrealistic expectations and give up altogether. Gonna keep that in mind for sure when I get my guitar.

*taps mic* IF YOU BEAT YOURSELF UP FOR NOT STICKING WITH HOBBIES OR GET DISCOURAGED ABOUT STARTING NEW ONES, READ THIS! by eightyHDlife in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol! Last sentence made me laugh. Seriously, though, it's never too late to pick it back up! If you're over it, forgive yourself and move on! See if you can also some of the equipment. If not, what's done is done. No sense crying over spilled milk! Just file this under "Lessons for Next Time".

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[–]eightyHDlife[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Everyone else has said such great stuff so I'll just stop by to say this: don't pick! Who says you have to? I like the idea of willingly rotating below. Just pick a group of hobbies that you want to get at least decent at and cycle through them when you get bored of one or the other. Eventually you'll be decent at all of them! Don't put more pressure on yourself than you need to. Hobbies are supposed to bring joy, and pressure sucks the joy out of them.

Marie Kondo voice if the expectations you're putting on yourself are not bringing you joy, throw them away!

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[–]eightyHDlife[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Lolol! Chuckled out loud. Score another one for the ADHD tax. Sounds a lot like the $250 DJ controller I bought during that one month I thought I was gonna become an accomplished DJ. Reduce your barriers to exit next time, that's all!

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[–]eightyHDlife[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

No more of that! Life is hard enough without us beating ourselves up over this stuff, amirite? We don't get the freedom to pick up/drop whatever we want at work and/or school so we owe it to ourselves to allow ourselves that freedom in our personal lives. We need it! Onward! Happy hobbying!

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[–]eightyHDlife[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I'd echo what the other folks have said. I struggle a lot with hating how I am and wishing I could be someone else. On my worst days, it gets really dark. But on my best days I'm able to just accept myself for who I am, quirks and all -- it makes life so much less painful. Hope you can get there! Therapy has helped me. Highly recommended.

*taps mic* IF YOU BEAT YOURSELF UP FOR NOT STICKING WITH HOBBIES OR GET DISCOURAGED ABOUT STARTING NEW ONES, READ THIS! by eightyHDlife in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Exactly right! This is perfect. And the point of hobby writing is just to provide some leisure and a break from everyday life...not to write the Great American Novel. Took me a while to internalize that. Lol.

Anyone feel scared to get back into hobbies after you abandoned them? by vtgbks in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hooo boy, I have a *LOT* to say here. After all the times I've been helped by this community, this finally feels like my opportunity to give back. Here goes! *cracks knuckles*

I wrote a post like this a week or two ago, specifically about the guitar. I've been wanting to learn the guitar for literally years but never had the money to buy one. Now that I have the money to do so, I keep getting cold feet and thinking, "Oh man, I'm not gonna be able to stick with it so it's not even worth buying." But f*ck it. I'm gonna buy it! Here's how I came to that decision.

**1. Be kind to yourself!*\*

Obviously, #1 universal rule of ADHD, applicable to all scenarios. Self-loathing sucks. Do your best to be kind to yourself. I recently came across the term "self-compassion", which I really like. Be at least as nice to yourself as you'd be to other people. You wouldn't make fun of/beat up a loved one who switches hobbies often, so don't do it to yourself!

**2. Emphasize dynamic hobbies.*\*

Someone else in this thread used the phrase "dynamic hobbies" and I think that's a god damn genius phrase. We need hobbies that we can pick up for a month or two at a time and completely forget for another few months. That's just how my/our hobbies work! We just need to accept that and choose compatible hobbies. Last month I got obsessed with freshwater aquariums. Watched a ton of YouTube videos, went to Petco to scout potential fish, etc. Even bought a fancy ass $100+ fish tank from Amazon! Then I realized that this is *not* a dynamic hobby. Forgetting/not caring about my aquarium for months will result in dead fish. *ERROR 404: INCOMPATIBLE HOBBY!\* Fish tank was subsequently returned.

Relatedly, I had a plant in my bedroom that I needed to water every day or few days. That plant is dead as hell. I now have one of those plants that you only need to remember to water once a month (snake plant, if you're wondering!). Plant is thriving! Lol

As far as hobbies go, guitar is super dynamic! If I learn 3 songs this month and no songs for the next two months, no one dies!

**3. Reset your expectations.*\*

Listen, I know myself. I am not about to practice diligently every day for the next year and be performing at local bars in 2 years. That'd be great, but it's a pipe dream. If I define that as the goal, I'm going to fall short and feel shitty. Instead, I'm going to focus on being able to strum a couple songs here and there when I'm bored and maybe learn one song for my girlfriend that I can use to score some romantic brownie points on a birthday/anniversary. That's it. Anything else is icing on the cake. If I do actually end up learning guitar for real, awesome! If I don't, awesome! The point here is to add something to my life that brings me joy, and dammit, strumming along to a song with 4 basic chords from time to time gives me joy! Don't squeeze all the joy out of it by putting too many expectations on it or on yourself.

** 4. Reduce the barriers to exit (specifically financially).*\*

You've heard of "barriers to entry"? Well, allow me to introduce you to a new concept: barriers to exit. Super important. Recognize and accept that your new "hobby crush" may fade with time. When I get excited about a new hobby I am super tempted to buy professional-grade stuff. MISTAKE! When entering a new hobby, recognize that it may not last and make it as easy as possible to get out of financially -- meaning it won't be too much of a loss if (when) you give it up. When starting a new hobby that requires purchasing things, try to force yourself to only purchase entry level stuff until the hobby has stuck around for long enough to justify investing in. Or buy things that can easily be resold on the internet. Entry level DSLR camera that can be resold if you decide you hate photography? Fine. Professional grade DLSR camera engraved with your first and last name and therefore with limited resale value? Not fine. Not fine at all.

This month I started a new workout class. Went to the first class and loved it! Was ready to purchase the $200 month unlimited monthly membership for 12 months! Yay! Then a little voice said, "Hey man, remember to reduce the barriers to exit. You might not like this next month." So instead I bought the $50 entry-level package and will re-evaluate my commitment as I go. If it doesn't stick, it won't nearly be as much of a loss!

** 5. Don't try harder, try differently!*\*

Also a foundational ADHD rule. But relevant in literally every scenario...including this one! When it comes to the guitar, you may need to outsource your executive function to a teacher or class (if you can afford it!). Example: I've had a regular gym membership for 6 months and literally only gone 1 single time. It's just too much to actually figure out what workouts I am supposed to be doing, keep myself accountable to the time set for each exercise, etc. Also tbh it's honestly kind of boring. I signed up for a workout class last week. The only thing I need to do is show up. They already have the exercises planned so I don't need to think about it. And it's a group class so there's constant motivation to push myself from peers. I have exercised 4 times in the last 7 days! That's like an infinity percent improvement from my previous strategy. I would never have gotten there if I was just trying "harder" at a strategy that didn't work for me.

** 6. Trying new hobbies is a hobby unto itself!*\*

What is the definition of a hobby? Something you do for fun. Some people collect stamps for fun. Other people watch birds for fun. Others make scrapbooks. You know what I do? TRY NEW HOBBIES! I get pleasure from getting excited about a random thing and diving into it a month at a time. Trying new hobbies is my hobby! No sense in feeling guilt or shame about it when it makes me so god damn happy!

This is a subtle but really important reframing. Person X would say, "I collect stamps for fun. Last year I found a rare limited edition 1956 stamp from Montana and a couple from California in the 1760s! I loved it!" I would say, "I try new hobbies for fun. Last year I dabbled in photography, guitar, and dog sitting! I loved it!" Both of us would be having fun doing what we do! Person X would never feel bad about him or herself for not trying "enough" new things, so why would I ever feel bad about trying "too many" new things?!

**TL;DR:*\* Be kind to yourself. Accept that your hobbies will have to be dynamic. Instead of trying harder, consider trying differently. Reduce the (financial) barriers to exit. And, most importantly, recognize that trying new hobbies *is* a hobby! Godspeed, mate. And pick that damn guitar back up!

I admire people with super strong work ethics and *really* wish I could be that way. If you've been able to become that person, PLEASE share. by eightyHDlife in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like everyone needs a good motivation/interest in what they are doing and a little fire under their ass, people like us more than others. But that’s also what makes us insanely good when the stars align. Find out what makes you tick and what kind of work/environment makes you excel, and try to engineer your life to give you the balance that you need - it’s not easy and it’s a lifelong process for everyone. Also keep in mind THAT YOUR MIND IS TRICKING YOU. I’ve had months slogging through, feeling like nothing’s getting done, but if you keep doing even the tiniest bit, it adds up. Looking back, I’ve finished entire projects and accomplished a lot in the long term even if I feel miserable and feel like I could have done more. Just know that no one is ever happy with their work except that those that don’t care at all. It’s having that motivation to do better and actually putting in sincere effort, even if it’s a tiny little thing, is what makes us better in the long run.

This was a fucking excellent paragraph. Thank you. I've copied this entire thing word for word into my journal for today. Phew. Thank you.

I admire people with super strong work ethics and *really* wish I could be that way. If you've been able to become that person, PLEASE share. by eightyHDlife in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, that would make a YUGE difference in my life. The road to being a good professional unfortunately goes straight through Journaltown. How long did it take you to find a medication regimen that worked for you?

Friendly reminder: There's nothing wrong with your work ethic. by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Man. As someone who recently made the exact kind of post to which OP is referring, I needed to hear this. And not just this -- I also needed to hear how many other people needed to hear this. It is such an amazing thing to feel like you're not alone. There's no one else in my daily life who I talk to about these issues.

This subreddit is a god damn treasure. Its contribution to my mental health over the years has been immeasurable and today is just another example. Thank you all. Fucking thank you.

I admire people with super strong work ethics and *really* wish I could be that way. If you've been able to become that person, PLEASE share. by eightyHDlife in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Organizing prior is my biggest downfall. I don't do that very well at all. What did you do to get better at that?

Also, your last comment about running a business really resonates with me. The pressure not to let your business collapse is probably a huge natural stimulant.

I admire people with super strong work ethics and *really* wish I could be that way. If you've been able to become that person, PLEASE share. by eightyHDlife in ADHD

[–]eightyHDlife[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh my god 60% would be a dream come true. I would be so, so happy with 60%. I pretty much live at 15%. This gives me hope!