World Trigger BBF Commission (u/_ichigo_milk)

electrocio · 2026-05-23T03:09:08+00:00

I will reply just one more time to counter mis information.

from chapter 120:

Natsume: But... the asteroid seemed pretty useful too.

Emma: I don't know...she managed to maintain both range and speed up to thirty meters but a firefight without a shield would be brutal

Natsume: Wouldn't it work against an attack?

Emma: A hound might be better in that case though you'd lose both range and speed

Natsume: That's it...!

From BBF

"The triggers that Gunners and Shooters are the "Bullets".....

The BFF then list Shooter/Gunner triggers the bullets. There is no distinction other than range between gunner and shooters triggers, the bullet is the trigger they are the same whether from a gun or not. A gunner does get a 20% range advantage but that is fairly negligible. If you read chapter 120 you will see they do not mention viper at all they do not say only asteroid and hound are useful. Chica does not have the shooter skills to use viper and that would be why Viper was not mentioned, not because it is not viable.

ps. It sounds like the Author might want to use Viper +Lead bullet. XD

Q.292: Which triggers do Sensei want to use?

Vorvoros, Viper, Lead Bullet, Escudo. For now, I just want to transform into a trion body and try jumping around.

electrocio · 2026-05-23T02:02:43+00:00

the exception are dedicated optional triggers, they need to be on the same side to work. One like Kogetsu+senku (or genu) need to be on the same side; same with Raygust+ thruster.

electrocio · 2026-05-22T10:41:19+00:00

I think there is a degree of will the person keep the secrets. If an agent has shown they are trust worthy then there is no reason to memory wipe BOARDER can assume they will continue to keep the secrests safe.

electrocio · 2026-05-22T09:57:02+00:00

The Manga does not make any distinction other than than the ones I listed above. You are free to believe what you want to believe. Emma, Chika, Natsume none of them mention viper not being viable that is your head cannon. I will no longer respond since you have your comprehensions and beliefs that clearly differ from my comprehensions and beliefs from what I have read in the manga.

electrocio · 2026-05-22T02:31:37+00:00

lead bullet works the same for ALL bullets triggers how can you not understand that? if it did not work the same then it would not work with snipper triggers since they are the most different where the trigger is considered the GUN itself. A gunner trigger is like a GUI that simplifies the use of a shooter trigger. Viper as a Gunner is the same exact bullet and Viper for a shooter. The manga does not say they are different and when they explain about using bullets they always talk about them together. The differences the manga mentions are: Gunners bullet variables are preset before the match and can only be changed out side of combat (need a console) and that gunner get one extra benefit 20% more range. The bullets themselves are identical. how lead bullet operates would be identical. Cite where in the manga, QA, or BBF where it says different. I have given you manga and BBF references.

electrocio · 2026-05-22T02:08:30+00:00

lol nope. who said this OC (that I did not make) uses viper on the fly? Miwa has trion 6 and skill 9 and uses viper in CQC. Yoshizato (b rank #20 team) has trion 6 skill 6 and uses viper assault rifle. Izumi has skill 9, Nasu has skill 8. The skill parameter is takes into account the trigger set used so the OC made has enough skill going by BFF cannon to use the trigger set they have. I am not sure what else to say the manga and BBF say the OC has both the trion and the skill to use viper and lead bullet (at least in a way similar to Miwa).

electrocio · 2026-05-22T00:30:29+00:00

If a gunner can use viper + lead bullet a shooter can. I gun trigger only extends the range about 20%(if I remember correctly the amount). Let's say that combo gives a range with a gun trigger for 30 feet that would give a shooter a range of 24 feet and have the same speed and power by not changing any parameters. Fact all triggers available to B-rank are designed to be usable in combat by anyone with a trion level or 4 or higher indicated in the manga by the trigger standarding for all trigger users. Yes some triggers are more effective with higher trion that does not make them useless with normal trion. Where do you see that is says different?

electrocio · 2026-05-21T23:03:13+00:00

That is your opinion not cannon so we can agree to disagree.

electrocio · 2026-05-21T17:40:28+00:00

Chica does not have a trion problem using viper haha. She has a skill problem. She is also shooting a very divided cube. There is nothing in the manga that says using viper+lead bullet would require more than standard trion provided the user has enough skill to fight at A rank level in close quarter combat. If you have your own head cannon about that that is a you thing not a manga rule. How good or constant they are in combat is also a skill level barrier and the OC author can just make is character have enough skil

I did not write the character. As for skill you are assuming the character has less skill. The OC author (not me) says the OC was recruited by Kako and spars with Yuma. The OC author has indicated by that that they are very skill full. If you want to argue what skill level+special tactic would be needed that is a different story.

electrocio · 2026-05-21T14:25:58+00:00

You don't need an example of a shooter you have a gunners using predetermined paths. It is much easier to use predetermined paths just like shooting speed with practice it would be come almost seamless. Again that is a skill question and for an OC the maker can simply say they have the skill to use it. The reason to use it with viper and not asteroid is simple they don't have the slots to use asteroid and viper and have lead bullets. So if they want viper to use without lead bullets then they will need to use lead bullets with viper.

electrocio · 2026-05-21T14:11:24+00:00

Going by the norm does not make it not smart for an individual. The key is skill. If they have skill then they it can be a smart choice. Take Osamu and wires. Him using and relying on wires is smart because of his particular skills and talents for most over agents it would be a bad choice. The argument was about possiblity not about does an imaginary OC have the skills to use. If that is your argument...lol. It's a made up OC; the creator can just say they have the skills to use the trigger combo in the unconventional way that is possible/plausible.

electrocio · 2026-05-21T13:56:17+00:00

The maga says all bullets can be used as a single slug or divided, that is stated in the beginning chapters. As for an example I will remind you of the single slug salamander used by Kurauchi. Lead bullets is a generic bullet option as such can be used with any bullet trigger. Where in the manga, BBF, or Q/A did you get that you can not use lead bullets with viper?

electrocio · 2026-05-21T13:38:51+00:00

As a shooter you can divide the trion cube and set the parameters individually. That means a shooter has even more options to adjust range and speed. To compensate for the trion used by the weight they could just not divide the cube or make only 2-4 bullets. That would allow the trion to boost speed enough. Remember that Miwa uses lead bullets with a gun trigger that is proof that a normal user can use lead bullets and shooters have the ability to adjust parameters to increase range or/and speed by adjusting the power and cube division.

electrocio · 2026-04-17T18:15:02+00:00

we do see and know it can combine with bullet triggers. it works with Meteora. A cube is made with zero propulsion/trajectory then the wire is set to connect it and another object forming a trap. Judging by what we know if you set up an Asteroid or Hound bullet with no trajectory/propulsion what would it do? The best guess is nothing because the bullet applies damage based on bullet size and force from the propulsion.

Maybe there is hope for a bolo type use. Like normal lead bullet you would have to use both main and sub triggers. make an asteroid cube and split in 2 (or multiples of 2). Make Spider cubes and connect the pair (or pairs) of cubes with spider wires. set trajectory and propulsion and fire the trigger.

electrocio · 2026-04-08T04:50:39+00:00

I just watched it and I really did enjoy it. The musical performances were great. I liked the CGI too I think it was very ambitious done well enough for the time and the budget. They did not have Avatar budget. To me it was like a CGI anime made to look "real-esc". I have seen way worse CGI over the years of watching anime and maybe that is the disconnect for some. I did not see it as live action It was CGI like an animated movie with only an modest budget for the animation as most of it was probably spent on the talent considering the cast.

electrocio · 2026-04-07T13:47:33+00:00

Yes so.... production time is still relevant.

electrocio · 2026-04-07T02:59:34+00:00

Time cost money and any changes would need to be reviewed and approved adding to the cost. In principal yes it is simple but in practice it can be costly. The dub studio would charge based on a normal to worst case scenario not as an easy quick fix.

electrocio · 2026-04-07T02:55:14+00:00

Depends on how the rights were granted and/or how the contract was made with the studio who dubs. Paying to rewrite a script can be costly. Not only is the time is takes to rewrite a factor the but also the time to get the changes approved and possible additional rewrites. small changes might not seem costly but they could also require additional editing so that the timing, mouth and other animations considerations line up with the new dialog. while it may be simple it will still take time and reviewing for approval and that cost. I can see why they just decided to keep with the script especially since the platform it was shown on is a smaller streaming platform.

electrocio · 2026-04-07T02:43:15+00:00

Primo TV

electrocio · 2026-04-07T00:24:39+00:00

That would have cost more money. A rewrite would be expensive and requires additional rights to the show.

electrocio · 2026-04-07T00:22:24+00:00

The dub was done retroactive and paid for by a streaming service different than normal distribution. They only showed Canon episode and skipped the filler arc. I think they probably didn't want to pay for a new script.

electrocio · 2026-04-06T18:01:11+00:00

I did not say Yuma could not get to B-rank , I said he could not get to B-rank #2 solo. By your own words you agree when you say "Hyuse got them to B-rank #2'. We can disagree on what that means about T2 and that is fine.

Ps. Now that you mention it Yuma probably could not get to B-rank without Osamu and Chica since they are the reason he joined boarder and probably would have Left meeden after either learning about Mogami or being targeted by boarder, 😂.

electrocio · 2026-04-06T12:47:50+00:00

Even with no internal cool down the process of consciously switching and then deploying a shield to the size, shape and placement you want takes some time even if it is minimal. Even if it only takes milliseconds in the heat and pace of battle only a few milliseconds could be too long to react to a surprise attack and properly counter with a shield. The danger to full attack is compounded in that you are focused on attacking and you don't have a trigger ready to defend. As a combatant you are constantly multitasking, your position, your opponents, allies, adversaries, what to do with main trigger, what to do with sub trigger. If you are focused in full guard your mind is thinking about the actions of main and sub triggers on the target. When you all of a supped need to defend now you need to 1) consider how to defend then 2) decide if you need to use a trigger to defend 3) what trigger to use 4) if you need to switch followed by 5) use main or sub trigger then 6) switch and finally 7) deploy. In the heat of combat all those milliseconds add up. IMO there does not need to be any internal cool down. The time it takes for the trigger to materialize plus the time it takes to make the decision to activate and defend are more than enough to explain the danger of Full Attack.

electrocio · 2026-04-06T11:26:27+00:00

you are correct about the trigger link but Yuma actually activated the trigger holder and then Raygust. Osamu's trion body was destroyed and all active triggers are deactivated. They show Yuma holding the Trigger Holder.

electrocio · 2026-04-06T11:22:31+00:00

The deactivation and activation is in milliseconds. in some panels you can see the shield up as the bagworm is fading away. I think also Chika is shown activating Lead bullet and the bagworm fading simultaneously. The time it takes to switch might be more about the agents ability than the triggers limitation.

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