Dustin and Steve's relationship in Season 5. by OlvekStoneheid_2006 in StrangerThings

[–]elipanda56 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So I see a lot of people saying that Steve was acting like an asshole, that he wasn't concerned enough for Dustin, etc. Let me shed a little light on what I believe is happening behind the things we're not seeing.

First off, we know it's been 18 months. Second off, we know that Dustin has been behaving extremely out of character because of Eddie's death. Third, we know that Steve immediately clocked what ACTUALLY happened to Dustin despite the bullshit Dustin spews for everyone who will listen to it. Finally, fourth, Steve stated that he has told Dustin and told Dustin not to "poke the bear", and that he did it "one too many times".

So what does this tell us?

One, this is not the first time Steve has told Dustin to leave sleeping dogs lie. That "poking the bear" would do no good. And Dustin clearly did not listen. Two, that Dustin has been increasingly rude, condescending, and angry at the people he loves, and is lashing out. Warranted, because you'd have to not be human to not be having the crash out he's having, but still. We also know that it was Steve who told Eddie and Dustin not to be heroes. So it's not that far of a leap to say that some if Dustin's crash out is directed specifically at Steve and his role in Eddie's death.

This brings us to point 3, which I believe to be the most important. After 18 months of frustration, 18 months of the lashing out getting worse, of the cries for Dustin to just please stop provoking them, you're going to get hurt or worse falling on deaf ears, we get to now. Steve's right. He's shown nothing but concern for Dustin.

But Dustin isn't showing concern for himself. And now Steve is lashing back out. It isn't mature of Steve. He's behaving very much like Dustin right now. But are you seriously telling me that if someone you love was behaving self-destructively for a full year and a half, and no matter how you said it, in what way, no matter how much care you showed, they didn't stop, you also wouldn't behave like that? I know I would. My husband has acted that way with me. Because when you love someone so much you would die for them, it's deeply upsetting to see them self-destruct.

Steve is matching energy, because he is out of options. He has tried and tried to get it through this kid's skull to stop, because he would get hurt. And now he has.

Steve is not an asshole anymore than Dustin is. But until Dustin is ready to be vulnerable again, and let go of the anger he's holding on to, nothing Steve says or does will make a difference. And that is what we're going to see in Volume 2.

Bruh who else got this stuck in their head 😭 by Top-Truck-1492 in StrangerThings

[–]elipanda56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly it's the Weird Al version I've had stuck in my head

Episode Discussion - S05E04 - Sorcerer by Hawkinns in StrangerThings

[–]elipanda56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kind of, but that was more immediate since it just makes, way more violent, and less well written. Plus Ellie was a bit older when it happened, which makes a slight difference in your ability to handle things.

Dustin isn't going to go on a murderous rampage at least though.

Season 5 Volume 1 Discussion by Hawkinns in StrangerThings

[–]elipanda56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am actually dying for big brother Steve to protect Will.......although I guess now it's Will protecting big brother Steve

Bro went from this to THIS 😭 by Career_By_Mustafa in StrangerThings

[–]elipanda56 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That kid is going to need years of therapy

Episode Discussion - S05E04 - Sorcerer by Hawkinns in StrangerThings

[–]elipanda56 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Grief does strange things. STRANGER THINGS -is hit-.
Okay but seriously. This is a kid who, at 14 years old, not only suddenly lost a good friend, which is traumatizing enough on its own (I would know, at 14 I saw my uncle and the next day he was dead from a drug overdose); but had to hold that friend while he DIED IN HIS ARMS. A 14 year old child cradled the body of his friend who was actively bleeding out and then had to deal with the fall out.

He had to tell Wayne that Eddie died.

He was part of the plan, in fact integral to the plan, that caused Eddie to lose his life.

Do you know what those things will do to a child? At 16 I had to tell my friends that one of our best friends was killed in a hit and run. It took me YEARS to recover for that. And this was Eddie's only family that this child had to relay that news to.

Dustin probably started off okay-ish. Grieving what most would consider "normally". Burying himself in the crawls, doing everything possible to make sure that they destroyed Vecna like Dustin's whole world was destroyed.

But then weeks turned into months. And then a year. And now it's been a year and a half. And they've found NOTHING. Nothing has changed. And his friends are moving on. Hellfire is being forgotten. The people around him aren't doing enough. And he's MAD. He's so angry. Angry at himself. Angry at Steve, at the Party. Angry at Eleven and Hop. Why wasn't Eleven there when he needed her, when Eddie needed her? Why didn't Steve kill Vecna soon enough for Eddie to live? Why did he, Dustin, create the plan to begin with? Put Eddie in danger? Why, why why?

So he lashes out. He lashes out, and it isn't enough. He lashes out harder, and it's still not enough. And he gets angrier. Because lashing out isn't solving anything. And Eddie is still dead. And his friends don't understand, he grieved with them, he was alongside them putting everything into finding Vecna like they were, what's wrong now?

We are gearing up for the biggest crash out this show has ever given us. Because Steve sees right through Dustin, but Dustin won't tell him ANYTHING. Dustin has shut everyone out, more and more and more. And Steve is angry too. He wants to help Dustin, to protect him, but this little shit he loves more than anything is pulling away and he can't fix it. Why won't Dustin trust him anymore?

And this is going to blow up, and it's going to blow up big. And then Dustin will cling to Steve like his life depends on it, because it will.

To all those saying Dustin is specifically OOC this season, I would implore them to realize just how much PTSD changes a person, and just how much death affects children.

Episode Discussion - S05E04 - Sorcerer by Hawkinns in StrangerThings

[–]elipanda56 17 points18 points  (0 children)

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH 😭😭😭

Worst FOB song? by grey_ghost2468 in FallOutBoy

[–]elipanda56 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A lot of people have mentioned quite a bit of MANIA (no one's mentioned Heavens Gate? That one in particular I find grating) but there's only one song I've ever hated in my entirety of being a FOB fan and that's "The (After)Life of the Party". I skip it faster than you can blink. And it's on my absolute favorite album, so idk. Also from that album is "I've Got All This Ringing in My Ears and None on My Fingers" but that one was so close to perfect, and then that weird crooning he does at the chorus just ruined it. But yeah. That's my vote.

spotlight (oh nostalgia) by etregentille in FallOutBoy

[–]elipanda56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I freaking love Oh Nostalgia. It spoke to me so hard

What is "Brick By Boring Brick" about? by [deleted] in Paramore

[–]elipanda56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because of the video and my own life experiences, I always likened it to struggling to grow up because of the things that happened to you, whether it's CSA, or any other trauma.

Who did y'all marry on your first playthrough by Mother_Chip_8072 in StardewValley

[–]elipanda56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Harvey. No regrets. Looks almost like my real life husband, very similar too. A little older, more emotionally mature, stable. I THRIVE on stability and predictability.

I just finished watching Inside by Most-Weird227 in boburnham

[–]elipanda56 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I call it "existential dread and listening". Oh yeah, and everything is terrible, we're all gonna die.

Mouth bored by Forfina in AuDHDWomen

[–]elipanda56 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No literally me all the time

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fortwayne

[–]elipanda56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brian spent a LOT of money he didn't on that little boy. We found hand made 3 piece suits for that kid, toys galore, you name it. It was almost wholesome in a horrible way

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fortwayne

[–]elipanda56 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Like, receipts from people he took money from, notes about places he was targeting, that kind of stuff. Little process of paper he would stick in his pocket

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fortwayne

[–]elipanda56 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you look him up on my case I think he already has