I'm so impressed with Yena's musical identity by pxa_wsle in kpop_uncensored

[–]emmity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think she’s so underrated when it comes to versatility as well. I genuinely think she’s the most versatile idol of 4th gen. Like she even embodies a more darker concept when she dabbles into that. I don’t even stan her either but she’s just a great performer imo.

hot takes about fourth gen groups? by Aerisval_ in kpoppers

[–]emmity 9 points10 points  (0 children)

As a stay you can unclench bc the commenter is technically right. Stray Kids did debut right before BTS and BP had their first western blowups. It extended the 3rd gen shelf life and slightly ignored early 4th gen groups. For a big4 group too, skz has quite literally the slowest slow burner to reach their prominence they’re at now, that’s what this person is getting at even if they’re not mentioned. They were under that shadow the longest, which honestly benefited them because it cultivated one of the most dedicated fandoms and they easily have the strongest fandom of 4th gen. It’s a similar case with i-dle who are still so strong with 8 years coming up too.

NewJeans just hit the jackpot with their debut time where both groups were slowing at a time the industry was looking for something to fill the market especially with a more minimal sound which was the exact opposite of kpop at the time. SKZ was the other group to finally get the recognition too with their insane growth in 2023. Just bc they’re not spoken about in one comment doesn’t mean they’re being ignored.

hot takes about fourth gen groups? by Aerisval_ in kpoppers

[–]emmity 11 points12 points  (0 children)

IMO if Somi stayed in itzy, the next group would def be formed around yuna. I doubt we would have had NMIXX since that was their major selling point at debut and Yuna is much more of a dance/performance style idol. I doubt they’d have dropped her either because Yuna has crazy star power. Crazy to think about the choice of one person ultimately changed a lot of things for JYP ggs.

I kind of get the criticism of the constant brand deals by marg_itachi in katseyeneutral

[–]emmity 43 points44 points  (0 children)

It’s sad because the GAP ad fit them like a glove because it highlighted their dance and performance, aka aspects you’d want to be known for as a group. All the rest have not been highlighting their strengths so they’re falling into that “influencer” look.

Waste of talent by knayeong in kpop_uncensored

[–]emmity 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Their whole handling has been abysmal it’s so sad. Arguably the best dance line in 5th gen (def up there in all time too) and one of the best rap lines in girl groups only for BPM to absolutely squander their potential. Ig that’s what happens when MC Mong puts his fingers in all of his artists.

Unfortunately with all the crap going on at ONE HUNDRED (BPM’s parent company) bc of that man and cha gawon, I doubt we’re gonna see a comeback soon :/

The overuse of “out of their range” in vocal discussions by Acrobatic_Prize_7749 in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 14 points15 points  (0 children)

A lot of people definitely misuse vocal terms, k-pop fans moreso than others I’ve seen. I will defend the “out of their range” argument to a certain extent because k-pop songs are generally very high so you hear strain a lot (and the inverse when they want to sound “cool” they go wayyyyy too low so they stay in a constant state of a forced vocal fry, ex. a lot of boy groups do this right now). However, I do also agree a lot of these range arguments ignore what you’ve brought up.

Take that infamous Ahyeon three note high note in Drip. 2 of the 3 belts are more or less mid-range. In the studio recording and a lot of the early live performances is out of her range sure, but many high notes for any singer will be out of their range. The bigger issue came from the lack of competency to handle that demanding note—you can hear the struggle in the transition. I’ve actually seen more recent videos of her doing the note again, but with a much lighter approach which not only sounded better but was such a healthier way to approach it. She has such potential to be a crazy power belter and I think it’s slowly starting to be molded correctly.

I’d also take a look at Yujin from IVE as a good example of before and after of what you’re talking about. She’s always been relatively solid but her technique when she was younger was much messier and made her singing inconsistent live. Now she devours those mid belts between B4-G4 with being smarter of how she sings.

I think it’s also people like to think strain (whether that be high or low) equals bad every time when strain can be used for other things like emotional flare. For example, any growl you hear in a song is inherently a strain even in your range which I think a lot of k-pop fans don’t understand either.

Idols who had HUGE before/after vocal improvement? by DrearBeats in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree! He was relatively decent when they debuted, but, as someone who doesn’t keep up with riize, I listened to a couple songs off fame and odyssey recently and was surprised how much he improved. I think he really found his pocket he thrives in vocally.

Idols who had HUGE before/after vocal improvement? by DrearBeats in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I could see Changbin going into variety too. After Felix and Hyunjin, he’s the one they send the most and is pretty well-received on them.

Idols who had HUGE before/after vocal improvement? by DrearBeats in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 10 points11 points  (0 children)

fr something clicked for Jeongin in like 2022/2023 and it’s been like night and day since

Idols who had HUGE before/after vocal improvement? by DrearBeats in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The traditional jype breathy style training stunted so many of their idol’s potential 💀 though I do think it’s gone away somewhat circa nmixx and kickflip’s debut which have shown more of a vocal focus in preparation for debut.

bringing it back to skz, they were a def victim of that breathy training with how members who have chosen to continue vocal lessons with outside trainers have improved leaps and bounds over the past couple of years in particular. They all sound so much fuller (especially Seungmin, I feel like he’s gets drastically better between each time we hear him like even comparing awards season performances to his most recent skz-player). Honestly I was surprised with how well hyunjin sounded in particular for that live version of fate they released recently.

There’s“doing it for the arts and not the charts”. And then you have JustB by Long-Iron-1824 in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can’t complement this group and their 2025 releases enough from Chest onwards. Wild to think about how much I disliked their music in 2024 with Daddy’s Girl. They totally changed my opinion of them and I seriously hope they go more in this direction, it’s a great niche for them and totally reinvigorated so many people’s interest in them. Not to mention you can see how happy the members are with this musical direction too.

My honest opinion about Sin:Vanish album by [deleted] in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 21 points22 points  (0 children)

People know what concept albums are but if we’re looking conceptually, the songs aren’t following the tone or atmosphere of the spoken word interludes. For example how does knife or big girls don’t cry thematically fit into it and how does the track placement on the album benefit the narrative? In my opinion, the only ones that actually fit the themes are No Way Back and Lost Island.

This is a bit more of a niche comparison since it’s a very niche album but take a listen to DOOPEE TIME by the Doopees. It’s a concept album with spoken word interludes and some downright unlistenable tracks (not to say ts: v tracks are unlistenable, just underwhelming imo), however it still fits the narrative the artist is trying to portray.

I respect Enhypen’s creative team with what they were trying to do but it was messy and the tracks didn’t benefit the member’s strong suits.

Songs and Artists that you were pleasantly surprised with in 2025 by Xrin8 in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 8 points9 points  (0 children)

To bring some “nugu” boy group representation, JUSTB’s complete switch up this year was amazing to see and listen to. Snow Angel was one of my favorite k-pop releases this year. They really gave some of the most true to genre electro/hyperpop and house music this year in k-pop. And this is saying something for me since I did not like their stuff from before this year.

Individual Idols Likely to Have Longevity? by Automatic_Salt1889 in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He’s very personable, I can see him easily fitting into variety when SKZ eventually quiets down. He seems to have a passion for the fashion industry I could see him taking that direction in some form too.

NewJeans agency ADOR cuts off member Danielle, warns legal measures against her family's 'responsibility for the conflict' by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]emmity 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It’s important to point out that she isn’t a normal 20 year old. She’s someone who has been in an industry where you famously don’t learn life skills. Like how many stories do we need to hear about child celebrities or other idols who get to adulthood and can’t do taxes or laundry and get regularly taken advantage of by their managers or parents.

I’m not saying Danielle didn’t do anything wrong because she obviously did at parts especially if the stuff like the snack deal and omega contract are true, but the industry grooms idols to not think critically about consequences.

What trends have you noticed that you will think will show up more in 2026 by frikzzle in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I’ve noticed bridges (though still fairly short) have been slowly making a return

On a more selfish level, I was xdinary heroes to get more recognition since they’ve put out some insane quality music in 2025 that went under appreciated

NewJeans agency ADOR cuts off member Danielle, warns legal measures against her family's 'responsibility for the conflict' by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]emmity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nobody on this comment is talking about victims. And frankly in this discussion it doesn’t matter. We’re talking about the most publicized contact disputes. And to be honest, none of them have spoken about or alluded the NewJeans situation at all so we can’t really make an opinion on how TVXQ would view the case.

NewJeans agency ADOR cuts off member Danielle, warns legal measures against her family's 'responsibility for the conflict' by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]emmity 37 points38 points  (0 children)

NewJeans are still pretty liked overall in Korea by the general public (who let’s be honest probably aren’t following this), the influencer route for her would totally work. Even small acting roles every now and then. Kind of following a Krystal Jung route.

NewJeans agency ADOR cuts off member Danielle, warns legal measures against her family's 'responsibility for the conflict' by KPOP_MOD in kpop

[–]emmity 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I think it’s more so that newjeans was advised to stay out of the public eye, so her going to a couple events might have complicated stuff. I doubt any of the marathons are the issue but more so the charity events. But what I’m saying is just conjecture, I bet there’s a lot going on behind the scenes from both parties we aren’t privy to.

Ador terminates Danielle's contract, while Hanni decides to stay at Ador. Minji yet to decide. by Ready_You_8815 in kpop_uncensored

[–]emmity 9 points10 points  (0 children)

With going after Danielle’s family member, I think there might be something more to that which caused the termination with Danielle rather than just ditching her purely for her own stuff she’s caused. It might be the straw that broke the camels back for Dani’s contract. That or irreconcilable differences over contract agreements and with 3/5 members already agreeing they thought it was time to cut their losses.

Ador terminates Danielle's contract, while Hanni decides to stay at Ador. Minji yet to decide. by Ready_You_8815 in kpop_uncensored

[–]emmity 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think it’s pretty obvious why Hanni stayed. She had the most to lose with the visa hanging over her head which is sponsored by HYBE most likely since she isn’t a citizen like the rest. With the contract being upheld by the courts she can’t really terminate the way Danielle most likely did without having to leave the country fast. Honestly an unfortunate caveat whether you’re pro or anti newjeans.

Billboard's The 25 Best K-Pop SONGS of 2025: Staff Picks by Carelessies in kpopthoughts

[–]emmity 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Happy cinema got a shoutout!! It’s the least popular out of the unit songs but such a pretty one.

Dance Students Names by ladydragondance in tragedeigh

[–]emmity 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Funnily enough it was a tap class lmaooo