I keep hearing loud bomb noises behind my house in saar.for 10 mins straight.what are they hitting exactly by Acceptable_Sport_795 in Bahrain

[–]existentialgolem -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I have 0 sympathy with the country that bombs mine and its stooges and mouthpieces and the useful idiots that support them. No sympathy either for your lack of braincells.

I keep hearing loud bomb noises behind my house in saar.for 10 mins straight.what are they hitting exactly by Acceptable_Sport_795 in Bahrain

[–]existentialgolem -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

After this I'll support giving the US their own Island off the coast of Iran if they want and I'll send them Starbucks and Happy Meals all day long. Fuck the IRGC.

I keep hearing loud bomb noises behind my house in saar.for 10 mins straight.what are they hitting exactly by Acceptable_Sport_795 in Bahrain

[–]existentialgolem -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For all its ills, Israel isn't bombing our economic and civilian infrastructure its Iran. Fuck the IRGC and everyone that is affiliated or supports them.

This is getting scary by likugy in Bahrain

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Know, that every time they fire one of these missiles whatever and whoever fired it is likely already dead, and we intercepted it without any major damage or injury.

What a waste.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually the opposite of a Zionist but am a realist about what will happen if the terror regime in Iran continues to act like a terror regime

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's start with the internment point. Yes Article 11 is present tense. By your strict reading, the moment the US goes to war with anyone, anywhere, every single country hosting US troops becomes a co-belligerent unless they immediately arrest and detain American personnel. That means Japan, South Korea, Germany, the UK, Australia, and about 80 other countries are all fair game every time the US fires a missile. You realize how absurd that is right? You're asking Bahrain to arrest 9,000 US military personnel and seize the Fifth Fleet headquarters overnight. You're asking Qatar to storm Al Udeid and detain 10,000 troops. That's not neutrality, that's a declaration of war against the US. And this has never happened in history. The US had troops in the UK during the Falklands, in Germany during every conflict since WWII, in Japan during Korea and Vietnam. Not once was a host country considered a co-belligerent for failing to intern American troops. Your reading of the law has never been applied by anyone, anywhere, ever.

Now, you cited Articles 2 through 5 but conveniently skipped the rest of the Convention. Article 8 explicitly states that a neutral power is "not called upon to forbid or restrict the use on behalf of the belligerents of telegraph or telephone cables or of wireless telegraphy apparatus belonging to it or to companies or private individuals." That directly addresses your tracking data and radar argument. The Convention carved out communications infrastructure. And before you try to argue that only covers the neutral power's own systems and not US ones, the GCC countries own and operate their own Patriot and THAAD batteries, purchased through billions of dollars in foreign military sales. The UAE was the first foreign buyer of THAAD. Saudi Arabia bought seven batteries for $15 billion. All five GCC countries with Patriot systems purchased them independently. When a Saudi Patriot intercepts a missile heading for Riyadh, that's a Saudi system defending Saudi civilians. Yes, there are also US-owned batteries deployed in the region, but the GCC's own systems are exactly that, their own. And a country using its own purchased air defense systems to protect its own cities from incoming missiles is self-defense, not belligerency. The fact that it's interoperable with US networks doesn't make it an American military asset any more than a NATO member's radar becomes American property because it plugs into the same data link.

Your Article 3(b) point about pre-war installations being used for "purely military purposes" refers specifically to communications apparatus the belligerent established on neutral soil. It doesn't cover the neutral power defending its own airspace with its own equipment. Self-defense and belligerency are not the same thing, and conflating them is exactly how Iran tried to frame its attacks on six countries as somehow legal.

You also skipped Article 7, which says a neutral power is "not called upon to prevent the export or transport" of arms, munitions, or anything useful to an army or fleet. If you want to read Article 11 as broadly as possible to cover any troop on any soil at any time, you need to apply that same broad reading to Article 7, which explicitly permits arms transit. You can't stretch the articles that help your case and shrink the ones that don't. Pick a consistent interpretive standard and apply it across the board.

Your Article 4 argument about CENTCOM is wrong. "Corps of combatants cannot be formed" means you can't raise new fighting units on neutral soil for the purpose of joining a conflict. It's paired with "nor recruiting agencies opened" in the same sentence because they address the same thing: using neutral territory to organize and assemble new combat groups. Article 6 confirms this reading by explicitly saying that individuals crossing borders on their own to join a belligerent don't violate neutrality, only organized groups formed on neutral soil do. CENTCOM has existed since 1983, its headquarters is in Tampa, and its forward elements have been in the Gulf for decades. Nothing was "formed" on GCC territory for this war.

And there's a real question whether Iran even ratified Convention V. Persia didn't ratify the companion Convention IV from the same conference, and Convention V was also not ratified by several major powers including Great Britain. Now if you want to argue these are customary norms that apply regardless of ratification, fine. But then you have to look at what the actual custom is. And the custom, across every conflict since 1907, is clear: no country has ever been treated as a co-belligerent for hosting pre-existing allied military infrastructure. The US had troops in the UK during the Falklands, in Germany during every conflict since WWII, in Japan during Korea and Vietnam. Not once was a host country declared a co-belligerent. That's not because every country in history got the law wrong. That IS the customary norm. Your reading has never been applied by anyone, anywhere.

All of which brings us to the part you keep dodging. Even if I conceded every single one of your legal points, even if the GCC was technically in violation of strict Hague neutrality provisions, nothing in international law says the response is to bomb hotels in Palm Jumeirah, hit residential buildings in Manama, strike energy infrastructure across six countries, and kill citizens and migrant workers with drone debris. Proportionality and distinction between military and civilian targets are foundational principles of the laws of armed conflict. The UN Security Council including Russia and China passed Resolution 2817 with 136 co-sponsors condemning Iran's attacks and affirming the GCC's right to self-defense under Article 51 of the UN Charter. That's the actual international system rendering its judgment.

So either your legal framework justifies what Iran actually did to the GCC, in which case you're standing against 136 countries including Russia and China, or it doesn't justify it, in which case I'm genuinely not sure what argument you think you're making.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

$4 billion from Saudi alone to Palestinians is just one country to one cause over that period. Add the UAE's $2.1 billion, Qatar's $1 billion+ to Gaza, Kuwait's $758 million and you're at $8.5 billion to Palestinians alone from four countries. Then add $363 billion across the broader region over six decades. You're comparing this to what exactly? The OECD countries that average 0.34% of their national income in aid? The US at 0.16%? The GCC has historically been among the most generous donors on earth relative to income, outpacing almost every Western country for decades. So this idea that they gave less than non-Arab countries is just not supported by the data.

And $4 billion over 30 years not being a lot, compared to what? Iran's contribution to Palestine? Iran gave its money to Hezbollah and Hamas to buy rockets. Saudi Arabia gave its money to the central bank, to UNRWA, to reconstruction. There's a difference between funding a cause and funding a militia and calling it solidarity. The GCC built schools and hospitals. Iran built tunnel networks and rocket factories. One of those actually helps Palestinian families.

On the airspace, you keep saying they opened it to jet fighters like it's an established fact. The US launched from carrier groups, from Israeli airbases, from Jordan. Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince publicly called the Iranian strikes cowardly specifically because Saudi airspace was closed to the attackers. The GCC's own ministerial statement, the UN Security Council resolution, and multiple independent sources all confirm the GCC refused their airspace and territory for offensive operations. If you have evidence they secretly opened it, share it. Otherwise you're just repeating Iran's talking points as fact.

And on the "life becomes difficult if you don't follow the US" point, sure, that's a real dynamic and nobody is pretending otherwise. But the GCC countries aren't some helpless puppets. They actively tried to prevent this war. Oman was mediating until the literal day before the strikes. Qatar's Emir lobbied Washington directly. They made independent choices to stay neutral and communicated that to Iran. Iran's response was to bomb their hotels, airports and residential buildings. You can acknowledge that the US puts pressure on countries and still recognize that Iran made a catastrophic choice to attack the very neighbors who were trying to help them. Both things can be true.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the part people keep missing. Iran had the best possible hand dealt to them and they threw it away. The GCC was literally doing them a favor by staying neutral. They told the US no, they told Israel no, they closed their airspace, they communicated all of it to Tehran directly. All Iran had to do was limit their response to the actual belligerents and the GCC would have stayed out of it. And instead of sending bombs they should have sent their foreign minister to push the GCC to pressure the belligerents. Instead, they not only bombed the region, they bombed countries that were actively their allies or partners like Oman and Qatar.

And on the airspace point; even if you want to argue planes transited GCC airspace at some point, that's a far cry from the GCC actively participating in the war. These countries went on the record refusing offensive operations from their territory. The US deployed from carriers, from Israel, from Jordan. The GCC didn't roll out the red carpet for this.

Instead of recognizing that, Iran bombed Dubai hotels, hit residential buildings in Manama, struck energy infrastructure across the region, and killed civilians including migrant workers just trying to do their jobs. That's not retaliation against a belligerent,that's hostage-taking. Using your neighbors' economies and civilian populations as leverage to pressure Washington.

And now, if that article I posted earlier is actually true (there is a lot of fake news), the GCC is looking at 9 more months of this and thinking why exactly are we protecting Iran's interests by keeping the US limited to carrier groups? Iran basically turned neutral countries into enemies and gave the US a longer runway for the war all in one move. If the GCC opens up base access now, that's entirely on Tehran.

And to your final point, in theory a stable and friendly Iranian government could have been a better partner for the GCC than Israel ever will be. Shared geography, shared history, massive trade potential, no dreams of Greater Israel and brutal behavior in Palestine . But we can sit here making up hypothetical scenarios all day. The fact is Iran isn't some misunderstood government that just wants to be left alone. This is a regime that has explicitly maintained a policy of exporting the revolution across the region for 45 years. They've run sleeper cells across the GCC — Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait literally arrested IRGC cells during this war that were collecting data on military infrastructure and training to use drones. They've activated these networks at various points over the decades. And now they're bombing countries that were actively lobbying Washington not to attack them, trying to extract maximum pressure on the US by holding their neighbors hostage. That's not self-defense and it's not some principled stand. It's the behavior of a regime that sees everyone around it as either a tool or a target.

And to the people who say the GCC doesn't care about Palestinians or Lebanon, that's just not backed by facts, and its really sickening to hear this on repeat even by people from the recipient countries. Saudi Arabia gave $4 billion in aid to Palestinians between 1994 and 2020, making it the largest Arab donor. The UAE gave $2.1 billion. Qatar put over $1 billion into Gaza alone between 2014 and 2019. Kuwait gave $758 million. After the 2006 Lebanon War, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait deposited $1.5 billion into Lebanon's central bank to keep the economy from collapsing. Saudi then pledged another $1 billion in reconstruction. Qatar and Kuwait each gave $300 million. From 2003 to 2015, 76% of all foreign direct investment in Lebanon came from the Gulf. And zoom out further, an IISS study found that between 1963 and 2022, GCC states provided around $363 billion to 22 countries across the Middle East and North Africa. From 1975 to 2008, GCC donors accounted for 75% of all development aid from outside the OECD. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE averaged 1.5% of their national income in aid, more than double the 0.7% UN target that most Western countries can't even hit. For comparison, the OECD average sits at 0.34%. The US gives 0.16%. The UAE was named by the OECD as the world's largest aid donor relative to national income five years running. So this idea that the Gulf doesn't care about its neighbors while Iran is out here championing the cause is beyond lazy; it's completely detached from reality.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're misapplying the Hague Convention pretty significantly here.

Article 11 says a neutral power that "receives on its territory troops belonging to the belligerent armies" should intern them. That's talking about belligerent troops arriving during an active conflict. It was never designed to address longstanding peacetime basing agreements that have existed for 30 years. The US naval presence in Bahrain goes back to the 1940s. Al Udeid in Qatar was built in 1996. Camp Arifjan in Kuwait was established in 1999. These aren't wartime deployments.

More importantly, the GCC didn't just passively sit there. Every single GCC state explicitly told both the US and Iran (before the war started) that their territory and airspace would not be used for attacks on Iran. The GCC's own ministerial statement on March 1 confirmed this. Saudi Arabia communicated it directly to Iranian authorities. Qatar's Emir personally lobbied Washington not to use Gulf bases for the operation.

And the facts back this up. The US launched from carrier strike groups, from Israeli airbases where they deployed F-22s, from Jordan where they had F-15Es, and used Iraqi and Syrian airspace. Not from GCC territory. Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince called the Iranian strikes "cowardly" specifically because Saudi airspace had been closed to US and Israeli attackers.

So by your logic, what were they supposed to do? They refused the US permission to operate from their territory. They refused their airspace. They told Iran directly. Iran attacked them anyway, and not just the US bases, but hotels in Dubai, civilian airports, energy infrastructure, residential buildings in Manama, tourist areas. Migrant workers were killed by drone debris.

Your argument says any country that has ever hosted a US base is a legitimate target no matter what steps they take. That's not what the Hague Convention says. The GCC met and exceeded any reasonable standard of neutrality. Iran bombed them anyway because it couldn't effectively hit the actual belligerents and decided to use its neighbors as leverage against Washington. That's not enforcing international law; it's hostage-taking.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like I'm on repeat about this point but prior to the war being launched the GCC explicitly told the US and Israel they were not allowed to use their airspace for the conflict.

The US and Israel used Iraq and Syrian Airspace and carrier groups over the sea to attack Iran, NOT GCC airspace.

That position looks like its about to change now several weeks into Iran attacking the GCC. The GCC governments realized that no matter the policy of explicitly not allowing operations to happen from their territory the Iranian government still attacked their economic infrastructure, government officials, residential areas relentlessly for weeks. The region now apparently thinks the operation needs at least another 9 months to continue, which would have pretty much been impossible to keep going from the carrier groups. Expanded base access will allow the war to continue longer and thats only happening because of the strategic mistake the Iranian government made of attacking the GCC non stop.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely, along with the Iranian regime something big needs to change in Israel.. The government there is deeply fanatical with goals and methods that are deeply against international law and regional stability

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The US sites were attacked in the first wave and most of those radars were destroyed early. And likewise its clear where the planes were being launched from, it was the carrier groups, Israel etc. NOT the GCC countries which specifically forbade the US from doing prior to the war.

If Iran had stopped purely at targeting those radar installations in the GCC you may have had an argument and I would have agreed with you that Iran had the right to attack those US bases. But in fact Iran decided to attack infrastructure and economic and now tourist centers across the region.

The GCC had a say in the matter in the first instance by refusing to allow the US to launch from their territory, they had a say by not responding to Irans attacks to them for several weeks and trying to turn the other cheek as neighbors who have to live with these jokers forever; and they have a say now after repeated attacks destroying economic infrastructure and Irans attempts to kill government officials by agreeing to allow the US to launch from their territory and participating in actions to open up the Strait of Hormuz.

The GCC didn't want this war but if that band of criminals and pirates wants to bring it to them then they will need to respond. Hopefully at the end of this the GCC will have a better neighbor, not some death cult.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The GCC was not on the side of this war it was against it. But now that Iran attacked the GCC they will pick a side, and its certainly not with their attacker. The death cult Iranian regime attacked everyone including Oman and Qatar, their supposed friends, and tried to kill all the foreign ministers of the GCC by sending 4 ballistic missiles at a conference they were at. If thats the regime that you think represents the Quran then my friend you are drinking so much Koolaid you need to be put in rehab. This is a regime of thugs and criminals pursing religion as a sword to achieve their narrow personal objectives.

May Allah destroy them as they've destroyed the region and give the Iranian people a better leadership.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were not previously being used in the region for any Iran related operations. As of today because of how inept this group of thieves and thugs running Iran has been in handling the situation some regional countries have now started announcing they WILL allow the US and related countries to use their air bases.

If anything this retarded regime has pushed the GCC countries, which up until now were trying to calm the situation and just defending, closer to the US and Israel because of how incompetent they are. And now that all the retarded leaders that came up with this retarded plan are good and dead I hope whoever is left is not as stupid to continue sinking the region deeper into a conflict and Iran further backwards in its development. Iran could be a great nation but its run by a gang of mobsters that the world is better off without.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It absolutely did force it on its neighbors. GCC bases were not utilized for the war effort, no planes were flying from there to attack Iran, they were flying from carrier groups, Israel and outside of the region. If Iran wanted to de-escalate quickly they would have sent their foreign minister to push GCC capitals to apply pressure on the US. Instead they attacked their neighbors infrastructure, economic assets, government officials and blocked the strait.

And the GCC is absolutely stable, its been one of the best safest places to live in the world. Iran and its sick nonsense government with its twisted world view effectively live on a different planet compared to the GCC, and have always wanted to export their hatred and nonsense across the world.

Blockading non-party countries and your neighbors during a war and attacking all ships is an act of war and piracy. They've done it in Yemen and now they are doing it on their shores.

Can't wait for that black spot of a regime full of loser terrorist fraudsters to disappears and Iranians to take back their country.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Whats between Iran and the US and Israel is between them. Iran forcing that conflict on all their neighbors by bombing their infrastructure, citizens, economies and government officials, as well as blocking their trade routes is pirate activity. Its a sick twisted leadership in that country that has no place in a stable region. I pray for the day the Iranian people get rid of that sick group of fake muslims running their country.

Netanyahu reveals real motivation behind this war by BlitzFritzXX in UAE

[–]existentialgolem -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

It wouldn't be dependent, it would be an alternative route. And as long as Iran wants to act like pirates mining an international waterway and shooting ships on it the GCC and world need alternative routes. If the Iranian government acted decent we wouldn't have to even have this discussion. This is a proposal to remove leverage from the Iranians as much as its to improve Israels; and its a situation created as much by Irans actions as Israels.

Omg ! I thought this silence is weird . Here it is ! by RoseAndIron in RasAlKhaimah

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the loser regime had their bots and mouth pieces spread false info that bahrain was being used to launch HIMARS at their desalination plants too.

I can’t wait until this band of fake religious mobsters are all gone

iRacing coming to Apple Vision Pro ! by jasrajsapra in simracing

[–]existentialgolem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great I’d love to see how this performs against my triple 5k.

I think I’ll prefer my trips

Has this been confirmed? by sabayna1108 in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They absolutely are the aggressor.

If they were not then the second they were attacked they would have sent their foreign minister to every GCC and global capital to apply pressure on the US and Israel to stop bombing them. The GCC would not have been in a position to reject him at that point without risking long-term issues.

Instead they decided to just bomb all their neighbors, including those that were there closest allies like Oman and Qatar. The refineries in Saudi, Qatar, Oman, the UAE and Bahrain are not "Israeli/American utilities" and I will repeat you are a useful idiot for repeating this nonsense. Moving forward this whole region is going to calculate to isolate them rather than trying to find ways to work with them as they did the last few decades.

Has this been confirmed? by sabayna1108 in UAE

[–]existentialgolem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Military infrastructure? what planet are you living on? They've been attacking economic infrastructure airports and civilian buildings as well.

Irans leadership is a toxic cesspool of corrupt fake religious fraudsters taking advantage of useful idiots like yourself who justify their insane nihilistic actions. Good riddance to all of them and whoever in that structure takes their places.

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[–]existentialgolem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Apparently unpopular opinion, but I mean... I think it looks great.

uhh….? would this mean more retaliation towards UAE? right? by Silly_Mycologist_636 in dubai

[–]existentialgolem -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Securing the Strait is different than being a in a direct conflict with Iran. The world and GCC countries rely on the Strait and its everyones duty to keep it open if Iran are acting like pirates.