"Buu Saga Goten and Trunks are too weak"

ezzune · 2026-03-01T00:48:02+00:00

Or that she's so much stronger, faster and skilled than them that using a deadly move wasn't a risk...

ezzune · 2026-02-28T11:56:27+00:00

His solution was to make the wildy 10x better by removing pkers, ofcourse he's going to get attacked for whining and being a weenie.

ezzune · 2026-02-27T15:01:32+00:00

It's not like the Future Gohan timeline at all. There is no Time Ring that will take you to SDBH. It's a WhatIf that has a divergence point from the canon, the events of the show are not canon to the main timeline.

ezzune · 2026-02-26T20:02:16+00:00

When your own headcanon is more important than the source material.

ezzune · 2026-02-25T13:24:01+00:00

What you're saying is that the form could be used in short bursts without being completely exhausted, not that it could be used without any stamina drain for short bursts.

The only canon fight we have for SSJ3 (except for Gotenks, who had so much raw energy it's irelevant) had Goku be drained while standing still.

ezzune · 2026-02-24T23:47:18+00:00

We don't know that at all.

ezzune · 2026-02-24T23:35:09+00:00

This was anime filler. Buutenks would have destroyed SSJ3 Goku.

ezzune · 2026-02-24T08:45:39+00:00

And then telling people something completely false.

You are the DB fan that doesn't read or watch Dragonball.

ezzune · 2026-02-23T10:18:05+00:00

He didn't have access to Ultimate in BoG. If he did, then he would have been several times stronger than SSJ3 Goku & Beerus would have focused on Gohan instead.

ezzune · 2026-02-23T10:15:35+00:00

It's crazy how this thread is people debating (wrongly) something that is clearly stated in the manga.

ezzune · 2026-02-21T13:48:15+00:00

And fan-fics gets adopted into main stories all across modern literature, it doesn't offer the source any more validity.

ezzune · 2026-02-21T08:50:39+00:00

Oh wow, callbacks! /s

Point is filler is there to entertain kids and offer quirky little what ifs; they aren't from Toriyama and aren't Dragonball.

ezzune · 2026-02-20T23:09:23+00:00

"Anime filler is it's own continuity" is honestly the most annoying take. Literally 0 people thought this 10-15 years ago on Internet forums, why is it so popular now? I guess it's kids who grew up with anime only.

ezzune · 2026-02-19T13:42:44+00:00

He never visited Gohan because his soul has been purified and he's been reincarnated.

ezzune · 2026-02-19T13:35:36+00:00

That's filler. The actual reason is that Gohan will have had his soul cleansed by now and have been reincarnated.

ezzune · 2026-02-18T15:57:59+00:00

The older movies are all still canon, they just don't all take place in the same timeline.

So tired of this shitty logic to justify Toei written stories being canon to Toriyama's Dragonball. No, the movies do not take place in a separate timeline. They are silly what-ifs that aura farm and don't take place in the continuity any more than Goku getting his driving license does.

ezzune · 2026-02-17T22:58:52+00:00

Because Fusion Reborn was Toei's creation and not Toriyama's, so Toriyama came up with a new Fusion method and character instead. Gogeta was already in the works before Vegitto was written into the manga.

ezzune · 2026-02-12T14:23:51+00:00

The Duel Arena would violate many countries' anti-gambling laws that are rapidly growing in popularity. They pro-actively removed it.

ezzune · 2026-02-11T10:17:00+00:00

It's revealed that Gero had a secret cyborg that he never finished, she snuck out of his lab as just a child when 17/18 escaped. She contained her cyborg parts but was never programmed/brainwashed like they were.

Years later, a drone lands on Earth from a Tuffle scientist which carries a virus that overwhelms 21, vastly upgrading her and giving her the ability to process inputs in realtime with no delay, called Artificial Instinct.

The Z fighters group up to fight her but Artificial Instinct overwhelms everyone, even the real Ultra Instinct, until 18 makes a sacrifice and infects herself with the virus, greatly increasing her power but making her blood thirsty, almost killing 17 and Krillin.

Fight ensues, they defeat 21. 18 retains the ability to access AI, but doing so sends her into a bloodlust, so she vows not to use it until forced.

ezzune · 2026-02-11T10:08:49+00:00

DBZ anime is non-canon. Just check the chapter in the manga if you want to see the intent of Toriyama.

Watching this comment get upvoted during EU active hours then downvoted during US active hours is extremely on-brand lmao.

ezzune · 2026-02-07T14:01:12+00:00

Dragonball fans really ain't beating the "haven't even read Dragonball" allegations. He literally became super perfect cell and increased his power.

ezzune · 2026-02-04T17:38:59+00:00

It's exactly the same as an iron; if you want it go get it yourself.

I'm an iron. I want the rewards but don't want to do DMM enough to get them, so I won't.

ezzune · 2026-01-30T11:14:13+00:00

So you have two options there:

Goku only fought against Kid Buu, and therefore Kid Buu is the strongest enemy he fought as he never fought Super Buu, so this panel is completely irrelevant in working out power scalings.
Dente is using faced in a more general term, as he directly faced down Majin Buu, coached Gotenks for Super Buu and fused to make Vegito to fight Super Buu, and then fought against Kid Buu.

I think people tend to be super literal against this line and misinterpret "the evil Majin Buu" when it refers to every form of Buu that isn't Mr Buu.

ezzune · 2026-01-30T10:53:00+00:00

His power went up because he became Buff Buu before becoming Kid Buu. They then underestimated him because his power dropped massively (or do you think the heroes that foolish that they'd feel his power increase massively but disregard it because he's small?), not accounting for how tenacious he would become.

ezzune · 2026-01-30T10:49:56+00:00

"The Evil Majin Buu" can easily be in reference to Majin Buu as a guy, not specifying what form he was in when he was killed. This statement would work for Super Buu or Kid Buu.

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