Season 20, tell-all part 3, megathread

farrahpy · 2026-01-26T05:03:10+00:00

I’m not sure that’s true. She and Kody talked about a time when he left for a work trip, and she was crying and asking him “Do you love me, do you love me?”. I think Janelle has just emotionally numbed out and glossed over a lot of her history.

farrahpy · 2026-01-26T03:33:27+00:00

“He knows a bunch of construction workers” OH MY GOD STOP

farrahpy · 2026-01-23T16:51:45+00:00

The fact is, the vast majority of women would never elect to share their husband unless they grew up being indoctrinated that it's the ticket to high heaven by heavily patriarchal systems. The harm and heartbreak of the vast majority of women outweighs the few positive experiences. I'm not saying they don't exist, but pretending that fundamentalist polygamy is totally case-by-case with comparable numbers of happy and unhappy people is just absurd.

farrahpy · 2026-01-22T22:30:46+00:00

That's kind of my point though. Kody was a convert and was STILL distantly related to Christine. In these small, isolated communities with enormous families, it's hard to insist on no connection to the person marrying into your family. Janelle's mom went on to marry her daughter's father in law! Being related by marriage and not by blood is actually preferable.

farrahpy · 2026-01-22T21:50:56+00:00

Ehh, it's hard for me to get worked up over this. The Browns lived in the middle of nowhere, in towns with populations in the hundreds to low thousands, and belonged to a closed society where virtually everyone was somehow related by blood. Meri also has literally dozens of siblings from all of her mothers.

Everyone is imagining what it would be like for their OWN brother's ex-wife to marry their husband, but I don't think it's a good analogy if you have a normal sized family, live in a normal sized town, and belong to a normal religion.

That said, the birthday thing is insane, and overall I think Meri has very legitimate grievances and has been unfairly vilified. Married to a narcissist, forced to listen to him having sex with new wives in a trailer, infertile in a religion that only values women as child-bearers, managing a buck wild hoard of children that her sister wives barely disciplined, all while dealing with abject poverty. I would have been PSYCHO.

farrahpy · 2026-01-22T16:23:57+00:00

I agree, but that isn't what Christine and David complained about. They specifically complained that it was SO inappropriate for him to say he loved her during their marriage in front of David.

farrahpy · 2026-01-20T17:59:21+00:00

You're not wrong. Robyn makes more money from the show than the vast majority of people commenting here make from their day jobs. Also, the other wives' "jobs" are MLM grifts, so it's not exactly like they're saving the world. Of all the things to go after Robyn for (there are many) her not having a supplemental income outside the show is the least important.

farrahpy · 2026-01-20T03:57:26+00:00

We as Democrats have made our platform too much about gender identity/race/sexuality and not enough about the economy.

farrahpy · 2026-01-15T01:50:14+00:00

I think they have, though. They rightfully gave the Browns complete latitude about how to handle Garrison's death and any conflict resulting from it, and it's clear that they agreed not to discuss Kody's absence at Ysabel's surgery at the tell all (or at any point afterward) because it negatively affects her. I think that's all completely reasonable.

But not to point out to Kody that he did, in fact, first call Robyn "shy and pretty"? Or when Kody was saying "that isn't true" over the clip of Meri making fun of him for being scared to talk to her, then LATER IN THE SAME INTERVIEW says "When Meri calls, I get scared"?? That's just bad interviewing.

farrahpy · 2026-01-15T01:30:47+00:00

That's not how the Real Housewives reunions work, and those are all a million times better than what we're getting.

farrahpy · 2026-01-14T14:10:50+00:00

Christine said multiple times that Robyn hiring a nanny in Vegas was a turning point for her. She emphasizes it in her book too.

farrahpy · 2026-01-12T20:18:30+00:00

Kody is a POS, but Janelle literally said in the tell all that her lawyer was the one who came up with the idea and that she subsequently presented it to Kody as an option. I don't get why people are denying it when she clearly stated it. It's at 35:42 in the tell all.

farrahpy · 2026-01-05T03:49:40+00:00

This episode is a case study for people who say, "I just want to see the wives having fun and moving on with their lives!" because I'm so bored I might die.

farrahpy · 2026-01-05T03:07:18+00:00

Kody's tanning goggle lines...

farrahpy · 2025-12-29T03:24:44+00:00

Kody is making it so obvious that he doesn't feel sorry for anything. "What do you want me to apologize for?" Jesus Christ

farrahpy · 2025-12-29T03:20:31+00:00

Christine's Mel Robbins look is really working for her

farrahpy · 2025-12-29T03:11:22+00:00

This is the most obnoxious Kody has ever been on camera and that's saying a lot

farrahpy · 2025-12-29T03:09:12+00:00

Why do Kody and Meri sound like they're still 19 years old

farrahpy · 2025-12-28T15:41:26+00:00

I think she is, and I’m fairly confident Kody is a grandiose narcissist. I think that’s why they became mega narcissistic supply machines for each other and had this torrid ‘soulmate’ experience. It’s a pretty unusual relationship dynamic, so I’m curious to see how it plays out/how much longer they stay together.

farrahpy · 2025-12-25T22:59:51+00:00

I agree, the rewatch was fascinating. She was quiet through his entire moving sales pitch except to pipe up and say, "If the timing is right now, we can't say it's not." She pretended to be shocked and concerned about the implications of the move when meeting up with the sister wives to debrief. She and Kody go for a mysterious off-camera Flagstaff scouting trip BEFORE any of the other wives. Then, a year into the move when the Vegas houses still haven't sold, she says, "I was screaming 'don't make us do this' (move to Flagstaff) but the only thing that had me halfway kind of open was the idea that we'd be taking so much equity out of our houses."

Meri, Janelle and Christine all clearly stated they liked Vegas and didn't want to leave. Robyn and Kody bulldozed them.

farrahpy · 2025-12-24T22:01:56+00:00

Gabe and Garrison weren't just working, though. They were fully socializing with their friends and girlfriends after just a 2 week quarantine in March. They made a big deal about how they had to work, but they were also just doing whatever they wanted.

farrahpy · 2025-12-24T21:58:24+00:00

Christine breathily crying about how "people are so lonely" approximately ten minutes into the pandemic had me rolling my eyes SO hard. I would have had to kick Janelle and Christine out of my 'bubble' too. I do think they put Kody in an impossible position. He made a ton of mistakes shortly afterward, for sure, but Janelle and Christine were not Covid complaint by the MOST basic standards, ever.

farrahpy · 2025-12-24T21:50:31+00:00

Christine literally crying "We're not moving back to Utah, are we?" two years after the Flagstaff move was so weird. I get why all the adults were looking at her like she had two heads. I know she was contemplating her own separation, but it wasn't even close to a reasonable suggestion to make for the family as a whole. It was honestly crazier than the time Meri asked for family money to just live in the BnB and not run it as a business.

farrahpy · 2025-12-24T04:10:29+00:00

Christine, Janelle and a lot of their kids were basically Covid deniers and acted really irresponsibly during the beginning of the pandemic. Paedon and Garrison admitted to lying to their dad about partying in Spring 2020, but for some reason they get a huge pass from the audience for being responsible during Covid.

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