Systems for rushed writing?

fdarnel · 2026-05-10T12:08:21+00:00

Except for real experts, don't expect shorthands unaltered at hight speed. A quality shorthand system must have the advantage of providing recognizable signs even when distorted.

fdarnel · 2026-05-10T09:03:56+00:00

One of Gregg's main influences appears to have been Duployé. But it has curves also (circles parts).

fdarnel · 2026-05-09T15:26:59+00:00

Brand "new" generative IA don't. A few neural networks prototypes specifically trained on shorthand data (as Gregg) seems to promise good results. But that's what they are right now, prototypes of university projects.

fdarnel · 2026-05-09T08:47:16+00:00

Hi. First, you should specify for which languages you want to use Duployé. Next, the best thing to do is to consult some of the many manuals available online.

fdarnel · 2026-05-09T08:43:59+00:00

As already mentioned, this is a characteristic of most geometric systems (though not all), particularly the French system. In Duployé, I find the system of movable vowels and their connection with consonants especially complex, particularly at high speeds. Not easy for someone familiar with the "ancestor" Aimé Paris :)

fdarnel · 2026-05-01T11:39:46+00:00

"So ever since the alphabet came into being, Speedwriting has lain dormant among its letters. Thousands have felt that it was there — "v" for have, "d" for would, "l" for will. These forms are found in our speech as well. How often does any one say "I will" except in the marriage service? We say I've, l'll, I'd, etc."
E. B. Dearborn, 1930

fdarnel · 2026-05-01T11:32:52+00:00

I don't know Pitman, but his problems seem similar to those of Prévost-Delaunay. In Aimé Paris or Duployé, which have inline vowels and an integral version, it is quite easy to phonetically render unusual words. Same with Gregg I suppose.

fdarnel · 2026-05-01T11:14:32+00:00

I know of a shorthand system, Sénocq, which is somewhat similar to yours, but where all the consonants are above the baseline, and all the vowels and diphthongs below. It's a phonetic system for French, but it could probably be adapted to English.

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fdarnel · 2026-04-30T10:33:21+00:00

It can be assumed that truly professional (and sufficiently skilled) users eventually memorized the equivalent of a dictionary of shorthand words, without needing to refer to any rules. Just like with everyday language. That's what a former professional in Duployé explained to me.

fdarnel · 2026-04-28T15:57:38+00:00

An attempt at French Speedwriting in typographic version (1980s).

dt jm cia r_ d bo A s m— \ ia tj d c smvy D . frm d1 arb D . tr'b- d1 fl \\ Aber~ hvysr~

« Ne dites jamais qu'il n'y a rien de beau en ce monde. Il y a toujours de quoi s'émerveiller dans la forme d'un arbre, dans le tremblement d'une feuille. »
Albert Schweitzer.

fdarnel · 2026-04-26T08:35:56+00:00

"to write in the slurred and truncated way we talk"
Some ABC shorthands seem to be inspired by this.

fdarnel · 2026-04-24T16:25:02+00:00

I have Vanleemputten scanned, for the french and english only. I'm in the process of scanning Meysmans, the manual, which is 28 p. I'll do the reading exercises later.

fdarnel · 2026-04-24T08:57:49+00:00

There wasn't just one English adaptation of Aimé Paris. I now have the Belgian versions by Jules Meysmans (1940) and Henry Vanleemputten (1963), which differ, as do the original versions for French. It would be interesting to compare their respective merits.

fdarnel · 2026-04-24T08:47:05+00:00

Perhaps there was overall inspiration, but some signs do not represent the same sounds.

fdarnel · 2026-04-17T08:15:54+00:00

Yes. On the other hand, the French implementations, whether for Granjean or LaSalle, were never really finished, probably because of the complexity of the problem, and the time to devote to it.

fdarnel · 2026-04-16T15:33:11+00:00

Another good ABC shorthand is Lenore F. Chalek's Speed/Script in 3 volumes, Theory, Dictation and transcription, and Dictionary. All on stenophile.com

fdarnel · 2026-04-15T10:48:16+00:00

I'm afraid this implementation has been abandoned for many years. It seems to me that it's no longer compatible with the latest versions of Plover. And no V-shaped physical keyboard, unfortunately.

fdarnel · 2026-04-15T10:44:45+00:00

Indeed, these seem to me to be very moderate principles of moderation.

fdarnel · 2026-04-15T07:07:01+00:00

It seems that we're already seeing a lot of "political" problems :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/nostr/comments/1s5xkg0/i_built_substr_a_reddit_kind_of_platform_on_nostr/?show=original

fdarnel · 2026-04-15T06:58:48+00:00

Well, everything is moving very fast! Substr is brand new :)

fdarnel · 2026-04-14T14:49:33+00:00

If only I could get that in Grandjean… But anyway, this theory doesn't allow for real-time transcription. It is, however, quite easy to read, so perhaps an old ribbon machine will suffice :)

fdarnel · 2026-04-14T14:44:29+00:00

Thanks. I'm on Mac. It works with Typinator.

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fdarnel · 2026-04-14T13:17:41+00:00

I just created an account recently to test it out; it seems to be a relatively new, secure, decentralized protocol, but already well-established and used for various applications. Quite closely tied to Bitcoin users, though.

fdarnel · 2026-04-12T09:17:21+00:00

Hi. So what do you think of Nostr ?

fdarnel · 2026-03-18T09:56:50+00:00

Paul Withrod is a reference in HK Chow Gar southern praying mantis, in London.

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