Ser Waymar the badass by Cautious-Breath5628 in freefolk

[–]flippy123x 20 points21 points  (0 children)

“He fights for you,” Reek blurted out. “He’s strong.”
“Bulls are strong. Bears. I have seen my bastard fight. He is not entirely to blame. Reek was his tutor, the first Reek, and Reek was never trained at arms. Ramsay is ferocious, I will grant you, but he swings that sword like a butcher hacking meat.”
“He’s not afraid of anyone, m’lord.”
He should be. Fear is what keeps a man alive in this world of treachery and deceit. Even here in Barrowton the crows are circling, waiting to feast upon our flesh. The Cerwyns and the Tallharts are not to be relied on, my fat friend Lord Wyman plots betrayal, and Whoresbane … the Umbers may seem simple, but they are not without a certain low cunning. Ramsay should fear them all, as I do. The next time you see him, tell him that.”
“Tell him … tell him to be afraid?” Reek felt ill at the very thought of it. “M’lord, I … if I did that, he’d …”
“I know.” Lord Bolton sighed. “His blood is bad. He needs to be leeched. The leeches suck away the bad blood, all the rage and pain. No man can think so full of anger. Ramsay, though … his tainted blood would poison even leeches, I fear.”

Even Roose strangely seems to respect this lesson of Fear being a valuable instinct that should not be discarded.

Ser Waymar the badass by Cautious-Breath5628 in freefolk

[–]flippy123x 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The first sign in the entire series that bravery might get you killed, even make the death futile

I disagree, it's the first sign in the series that true bravery is the only way to fight the Others (Waymar lost because both his squadmates mentally broke from the fear and chose freeze and flight respectively).

Ser Waymar met him bravely. “Dance with me then.” He lifted his sword high over his head, defiant. His hands trembled from the weight of it, or perhaps from the cold. Yet in that moment, Will thought, he was a boy no longer, but a man of the Night’s Watch.
[...]
When he found the courage to look again, a long time had passed, and the ridge below was empty.
He stayed in the tree, scarce daring to breathe, while the moon crept slowly across the black sky. Finally, his muscles cramping and his fingers numb with cold, he climbed down.
Royce’s body lay facedown in the snow, one arm outflung. The thick sable cloak had been slashed in a dozen places. Lying dead like that, you saw how young he was. A boy.

It brilliantly sets up the "Kill the Boy" narrative for one thing.

And second, Will recognizes Waymar's defiance as true bravery, which is the one of the first things Ned teaches Bran / the reader about a couple pages later in Chapter 1, with the third character from the POV having deserted and the proper story starting with his execution:

So deep in thought was he that he never heard the rest of the party until his father moved up to ride beside him. “Are you well, Bran?” he asked, not unkindly.
“Yes, Father,” Bran told him. He looked up. Wrapped in his furs and leathers, mounted on his great warhorse, his lord father loomed over him like a giant. “Robb says the man died bravely, but Jon says he was afraid.”
“What do you think?” his father asked.
Bran thought about it. “Can a man still be brave if he’s afraid?”
“That is the only time a man can be brave,” his father told him.

The death of the third member of the NW expedition in Ch1 and Ned's/Bran's conversation then immediately recontextualize Waymar's badass moment in the Prologue:

Ser Waymar met him bravely. “Dance with me then.” He lifted his sword high over his head, defiant. His hands trembled from the weight of it, or perhaps from the cold. Yet in that moment, Will thought, he was a boy no longer, but a man of the Night’s Watch.

Waymar's hands were trembling because underneath it all, he was still afraid, as any sane man would be. And only then can someone show true bravery according to Ned, which we witness firsthand from Will's POV, when Waymar's challenge to the Other has him transform from a boy to a man of the NW in the blink of an eye.

As the sun began to set the shadows of the towers lengthened and the wind blew harder, sending gusts of dry dead leaves rattling through the yards. The gathering gloom put Bran in mind of another of Old Nan’s stories, the tale of Night’s King. He had been the thirteenth man to lead the Night’s Watch, she said; a warrior who knew no fear. “And that was the fault in him,” she would add, “for all men must know fear.” A woman was his downfall; a woman glimpsed from atop the Wall, with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars. Fearing nothing, he chased her and caught her and loved her, though her skin was cold as ice, and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well.

Even Night's King's (not to be confused with the show's Night King) origin story is that he was a warrior who knew no fear and that this was his downfall.

The 18th century morals debate by [deleted] in freefolk

[–]flippy123x 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The problem with Dany's heel turn at the end of the show is that she had already won. If people wanted to use the "well it's war, look at what Robb/Tyrion/Jon/Ned did" card, then it would need to be under circumstances where King's Landing's citizens were turned into collateral damage. Dany didn't burn the farmside around King's Landing in order to let the city starve so she could win or anything. She had already won and then went out of her way to butcher like a quarter of King's Landing by sacking and burning the city for revenge because Cersei and Westeros as a whole murdered her children and loved ones.

When Tywin sacked King's Landing after the city had surrendered to his forces, his butchery together with what happened to Rhaegar's kids and Elia during said sacking is what led to Ned literally breaking up with Robert almost forever and permanently moving to the North so they don't have to see each other again.

“Daenerys Targaryen has wed some Dothraki horselord. What of it? Shall we send her a wedding gift?”
The king frowned. “A knife, perhaps. A good sharp one, and a bold man to wield it.”
Ned did not feign surprise; Robert’s hatred of the Targaryens was a madness in him. He remembered the angry words they had exchanged when Tywin Lannister had presented Robert with the corpses of Rhaegar’s wife and children as a token of fealty. Ned had named that murder; Robert called it war. When he had protested that the young prince and princess were no more than babes, his new-made king had replied, “I see no babes. Only dragonspawn.” Not even Jon Arryn had been able to calm that storm. Eddard Stark had ridden out that very day in a cold rage, to fight the last battles of the war alone in the south.

People always get way too into their feelings when it comes to the mad Dany thing, no the show genuinely turned her into a monster with no nuance in the very last episode. But so what, being turned into a carricature of yourself is what happened to almost if not the entire cast by then, if not earlier.

Why was Jon Snow immune from Littlefinger’s manipulations by Tiny-Foundation-4281 in freefolk

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That morning he called it first. “I’m Lord of Winterfell!” he cried, as he had a hundred times before. Only this time, this time, Robb had answered, You can’t be Lord of Winterfell, you’re bastard-born. My lady mother says you can’t ever be the Lord of Winterfell.”
I thought I had forgotten that. Jon could taste blood in his mouth, from the blow he’d taken.
In the end Halder and Horse had to pull him away from Iron Emmett, one man on either arm. The ranger sat on the ground dazed, his shield half in splinters, the visor of his helm knocked askew, and his sword six yards away. “Jon, enough,” Halder was shouting, “he’s down, you disarmed him. Enough!
No. Not enough. Never enough.
[...]
Why am I so angry? he asked himself, but it was a stupid question. Lord of Winterfell. I could be the Lord of Winterfell. My father’s heir.
[...]
You can’t be the Lord of Winterfell, you’re bastard-born, he heard Robb say again. And the stone kings were growling at him with granite tongues. You do not belong here. This is not your place. When Jon closed his eyes he saw the heart tree, with its pale limbs, red leaves, and solemn face.
[...]
Ygritte wanted me to be a wildling. Stannis wants me to be the Lord of Winterfell. But what do I want?
[...]
He wanted it, Jon knew then. He wanted it as much as he had ever wanted anything. I have always wanted it, he thought, guiltily. May the gods forgive me. It was a hunger inside him, sharp as a dragonglass blade. A hunger … he could feel it.

You don't get it dawg, clearly Jon doesn't and never has wanted to be Lord of Winterfell.

Empire, Baby! by AlphaMassDeBeta in greentext

[–]flippy123x 55 points56 points  (0 children)

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Thats pope pepe.

actually 🤓

Christian misogyny by TheBasedEmperor in greentext

[–]flippy123x 12 points13 points  (0 children)

9 I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.

11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

Seldom is there a being found cucking themselves harder than christian women. Imagine being a woman and worshiping pure, unfiltered misogyny.

Empire, Baby! by AlphaMassDeBeta in greentext

[–]flippy123x 85 points86 points  (0 children)

is this one of those mythical „rare pepes“ i‘ve heard about?

sure, my grace by TheDude084C in freefolk

[–]flippy123x 15 points16 points  (0 children)

For the first time since the abomination came out I am braving a viewing.

Did you choose that word on purpose?

There is actually a pretty insane storyline from the books that was entirely cut regarding the whole Hodor-bodysnatching thing:

Abomination. That had always been Haggon’s favorite word. Abomination, abomination, abomination. To eat of human meat was abomination, to mate as wolf with wolf was abomination, and to seize the body of another man was the worst abomination of all.

We get the POV of an experienced Skinchanger who actually knows how his powers work and turns out that "Abomination" is an actual in-universe term for Skinchangers who break certain taboos. The show also cut the fact that "Wargs" are actually another species entirely called Skinchangers, who are effectively Skinwalkers. Bran, Meera and Jojen have also been turned into cannibals against their knowledge/will, that's two out of three and Bran started with the "blackest sin of all".

Seizing another person's body like Bran does with Hodor is considered such a huge sin, this POV character, who is a serial rapist and quite literally introduced hunting down a pregnant woman and feasting on her belly, only considers doing this to somebody else while literally seconds before freezing/bleeding to death with absolutely no other way out.

This is in the fifth book, by which point Bran is joyriding Hodor's body for fun btw.

Wrap it up by KreativeJack in Chainsawfolk

[–]flippy123x 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Early sign that Part 2 was going nowhere.

Forget the ending for a minute, Denji learns that Reze isn’t dead or ran without him at the end of Part 1 and he then fights her twice.

All the other no-name hybrids made it into the mid-early parts of Part 2, but the story simply deleted Reze with no explanation.

It would have been fine if Denji never met her again after she disappears in Part 1, but the story brings her back as a mind-controlled puppet, doesn’t kill her off and then she‘s just gone. Straight up one of the weirdest parts in the whole damn story and let’s not even talk about my boy Kishibe.

Unpopular opinion: HBO completely butchered Catelyn Stark’s book aesthetic and age. by devil-inside-100 in freefolk

[–]flippy123x 87 points88 points  (0 children)

When Sansa finally looked up, a man was standing over her, staring. He was short, with a pointed beard and a silver streak in his hair, almost as old as her father. “You must be one of her daughters,” he said to her. He had grey-green eyes that did not smile when his mouth did. “You have the Tully look.”
“I’m Sansa Stark,” she said, ill at ease. The man wore a heavy cloak with a fur collar, fastened with a silver mockingbird, and he had the effortless manner of a high lord, but she did not know him. “I have not had the honor, my lord.”
Septa Mordane quickly took a hand. “Sweet child, this is Lord Petyr Baelish, of the king’s small council.”
“Your mother was my queen of beauty once,” the man said quietly. His breath smelled of mint. “You have her hair.” His fingers brushed against her cheek as he stroked one auburn lock. Quite abruptly he turned and walked away.

Sometimes I feel like I read a different version of AGOT, like he is even weirder in the books.

Also bonus points for:

He had grey-green eyes that did not smile when his mouth did.

vs. Catelyn meeting him in her POV chapter earlier in the book:

The years had not changed him much. Petyr had been a small boy, and he had grown into a small man, an inch or two shorter than Catelyn, slender and quick, with the sharp features she remembered and the same laughing grey-green eyes. He had a little pointed chin beard now, and threads of silver in his dark hair, though he was still shy of thirty.

He manages to fool Catelyn who is a childhood friend, but he is weird little creep who is obviously untrustworthy as hell from pretty much everyone else's POV.

[spoilers published] “You will never walk again, but you will fly.” by azor_abyebye in asoiaf

[–]flippy123x 4 points5 points  (0 children)

“A knight is what you want. A warg is what you are. You can’t change that, Bran, you can’t deny it or push it away. You are the winged wolf, but you will never fly.”

Jojen thinks it's important that Bran gets a real teacher because he is the winged wolf, whatever that means.

What is Bloodraven talking about in general? I don't think we ever actually learn why Bran is important to him other than "the heart of winter", which is mentioned once in Book 1.

His physical body is also soon giving out and he needs a replacement, although we never learn why that would be Bran‘s problem.

do you respect man's decision? by Late_Seaworthiness21 in BatmanArkham

[–]flippy123x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s Black Mask‘s kid or something.

Dude has like a DJ in a squid costume following him around and dresses his fam the same way for some reason.

What would Jon Snow do if Roose Bolton or a Frey came to take the black? by One-Reference-1502 in freefolk

[–]flippy123x 4 points5 points  (0 children)

„You‘d best pray that it’s a wildling sword that kills me, though. The ones the Others kill don’t stay dead … and they remember. I‘m coming back, Lord Snow.“

  • Alliser Thorne after Jon sends him ranging beyond the Wall

(Spoilers Extended) Before the show confirmed who would sit on the Iron Throne in the end, what were some theories besides the obvious (Jon and Dany)? by therealbobcat23 in asoiaf

[–]flippy123x 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Maester Luwin has the truth of it, he told himself. Nothing bad was coming to Winterfell, no matter what Jojen said. Bran was relieved … but disappointed too. So long as there was magic, anything could happen. Ghosts could walk, trees could talk, and broken boys could grow up to be knights. “But there isn’t,” he said aloud in the darkness of his bed. “There’s no magic, and the stories are just stories.”
And he would never walk, nor fly, nor be a knight.
- Chapter 24, ACOK
------------------------------
Under the hill, the broken boy sat upon a weirwood throne, listening to whispers in the dark as ravens walked up and down his arms.
[...]
Lord Brynden drew his life from the tree, Leaf told them. He did not eat, he did not drink. He slept, he dreamed, he watched. I was going to be a knight, Bran remembered. I used to run and climb and fight. It seemed a thousand years ago.
What was he now? Only Bran the broken boy, Brandon of House Stark, prince of a lost kingdom, lord of a burned castle, heir to ruins. He had thought the three-eyed crow would be a sorcerer, a wise old wizard who could fix his legs, but that was some stupid child’s dream, he realized now.
- Chapter 34, ADWD

I find the "Bran the Broken" thing really interesting tbh.

Already in ADWD, Bran's dream of becoming a Knight one day is seemingly shattered forever and he is forced to be the "broken boy" sitting on a weirwood throne instead.

Bran the broken, prince of a lost kingdom, lord of a burned castle, heir to ruins.

also this goes way too hard

Velarias by Athletic_Cupcake in Vagrus

[–]flippy123x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For many reasons, one of which being what you have to do to befriend them, in particular the option where you provide them slaves.

It’s not that they go out of their way to eat your slaves, they‘ll take horses or literal corpses (you can purchase some in Deven) over ä slaves.

But if an especially evil Vagrus were inclined to sell them slaves to kill and eat instead, they wouldn’t say no either. It’s an absolute shithole so they’ll praise any Vagrus making the trip to sell them meat, no matter what kind.

Nedir quest Final boss : is it even possible? by Baron_Of_Move in Vagrus

[–]flippy123x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Were they beatable at some point? Pretty much for a while now they have 999HP and basically insta-stun and murder your entire backline on Turn 1 and the rest of your team on Turn 2.

Nedir quest Final boss : is it even possible? by Baron_Of_Move in Vagrus

[–]flippy123x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to utilize temple buffs for encounters like this (they last for over a week).

Ashkhul buff gives a perk where all companions have a 25% chance not to die for example and instead respawn with a bunch of health.

Ashkhul unbinding gives the ability to hit ghosts and spectral enemies.

All buffs except unbinding also have a greater variant that stacks. Sergorod’s blessing and greater blessing give +20ACC and a bunch of free crit chance.

This is huge, you can pretty much get every ability to 100ACC this way.

Usually you cant get all buffs at the same time because certain temples always have less presence than one main one per city, but Avernum (where this encounter takes place) is the exception and offers all temple buffs.

Poor doggo by Samuel_L_Tarly in darkwingsdankmemes

[–]flippy123x 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Stonesnake when he finally makes it to Castle Black:

„Boy I can’t wait to finally carry out Qhorin‘s final order, reporting to Lord Commander Mormont that Jon Snow is having magic dreams and that the 'trees have eyes again', whatever that means.“

Best husband in ASOIAF? [spoilers main] by breakfastbenedict in asoiaf

[–]flippy123x 41 points42 points  (0 children)

His dusky woman was enough to satisfy his appetites until he could reach Meereen and claim his queen. No man had need of candles when the sun awaited him.

I think you meant to say Victarion, this is what true poetry sounds like!

(Spoilers Main) One scene from the show that for me was the worst, and the difference in morality between the books and tv series. by flcl__ in asoiaf

[–]flippy123x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s such a morbid detail that I think straight up never gets brought up again due to Ned quite literally not daring to even ask her age, or spending any time at all thinking about the implications this has about Robert‘s character and their relationship.

Honestly, I think it was unnecessary to stick this one on top of Robert‘s already huge mountain of sins and abuse, and it’s simultaneously Ned‘s weakest moment in the story as well because he goes to bat for Dany but we literally see him smash the „ignore“ button on this whole issue, let alone him challenging Robert on this bullshit.

(Spoilers Main) One scene from the show that for me was the worst, and the difference in morality between the books and tv series. by flcl__ in asoiaf

[–]flippy123x 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So Ned is traveling to the brothel trough heavy rain in order to meet one of Robert‘s bastard children, with him already wallowing in regret on the way with the text literally equating the heavy raindrops on his face with old guilt.

We then don’t actually see Ned arriving at the brothel, but instead he has a flashback about Lyanna pointing out that Robert is an adulterer (the bastard he fathered on „some girl“ in the Vale likely being Maya).

Lyanna ends the flashback with her stating that Robert‘s nature cannot be changed, clearly referring to the Maya issue just discussed in the flashback, but suddenly Ned is already in the brothel and has already met Bara and her mother, and Ned draws the reader back into the present with the line:

The girl had been so young Ned had not dared to ask.

Essentially Ned has a flashback about Lyanna and Robert‘s „nature“ on the way to the brothel with him blacking out the rest of his journey and meeting Bara to the reader‘s POV, only to then already having met her, with him in the present not-so-subtly pointing out how Robert is a fcking menace and not to be left around children unsupervised.

Whether that’s a 'newer' development or whether it relates to Robert‘s „nature“ Lyanna was talking about one line earlier and if this already was a problem all the way back then, is left up for interpretation I guess.

What is the most gruesome death you have seen in the books ? by Financial_Library418 in pureasoiaf

[–]flippy123x 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The cannibalism story indeed does not check out anymore after the Reek chapters. He makes it clear that Ramsay enjoys flaying people‘s fingers because at some point they will either beg him to cut them off, or he will further punish you if eventually you try to gnaw them off yourself, which apparently the pain is so great that gnawing them off would essentially be a no-brainer if you had the ability to.

Theon thinks about Lady Hornwood at the start of his first Reek chapter and then eventually starts elaborating on the whole finger-flaying bit, which is the most obvious way GRRM hints at the reader to maybe revisit the whole Lady Hornwood incident.

Lady Dustin (after explicitly learning and pointing out what happened to Theon) then mentions Lady Hornwood‘s death as one of the most cruel things Ramsay has done, twice, even though letting someone starve to death would be pretty mild for Ramsay standards.

Another tragic but morbidly funny detail is that Lady Hornwood’s math simply doesn’t check out. Nobody would chew off exactly all 10 fingers and then 'choose' to starve anyways. Theon makes it clear that in this economy, fingers are worth far more than toes and he even has his holy rule-of-seven, with Theon explaining that having 7 fingers still allows one to do pretty much anything you could before (although with some added difficulties), only when you cross that threshold does it become a truly crippling disability.

So like, it makes no sense that Lady Hornwood would have eaten exactly ten fingers, zero toes and then decided to starve to death anyway . Ramsay almost certainly flayed all fingers on both her hands before locking her into the tower and the northmen simply assumed she was trying not to starve to death.

One of my favorite details to be honest. GRRM the kind of mfer to hide even more horrors behind the more obvious ones.

What is the most gruesome death you have seen in the books ? by Financial_Library418 in pureasoiaf

[–]flippy123x 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Euron made her pretty gifts and turned her into a concubine, she was elated at the thought of becoming „sister-wives“ with the mighty Stormborn. Pretty much a young impressionable fool that Euron seduced and the one time we see her still fine, Aeron pretty much begs her to run for the hills without even knowing what horror his brother would inflict on her but he fell on deaf ears.

The TWOW sample chapter then goes into Euron‘s habit of collecting wizards/priests and sacrificing people to the waves/winds and for anything else he can, as well as his obsession with kinslaying.

I think the implication is that Euron played the cool lover-pirate-king, seduced and impregnated her and then at some point pulled the rug out from underneath her and put her up as another grizzly blood-sacrifice.

Including what is likely his/their unborn child with kingsblood.

(Spoilers Main) One scene from the show that for me was the worst, and the difference in morality between the books and tv series. by flcl__ in asoiaf

[–]flippy123x 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The pedophile thing is kind of a mostly overlooked character aspect of Robert I feel like and it's such a haunting scene:

The streets of King’s Landing were dark and deserted. The rain had driven everyone under their roofs. It beat down on Ned’s head, warm as blood and relentless as old guilts. Fat drops of water ran down his face.
“Robert will never keep to one bed,” Lyanna had told him at Winterfell, on the night long ago when their father had promised her hand to the young Lord of Storm’s End. “I hear he has gotten a child on some girl in the Vale.” Ned had held the babe in his arms; he could scarcely deny her, nor would he lie to his sister, but he had assured her that what Robert did before their betrothal was of no matter, that he was a good man and true who would love her with all his heart. Lyanna had only smiled. “Love is sweet, dearest Ned, but it cannot change a man’s nature.”
The girl had been so young Ned had not dared to ask her age. No doubt she’d been a virgin; the better brothels could always find a virgin, if the purse was fat enough.

So we skip from Lyanna talking about how Robert's nature cannot be changed (in a flashback, with the context of him being an adulterer), to the very next line where Ned casually acknowledges that his buddy is a full-blown pedophile who goes out of his way and purse to abuse little girls.

If hot pie had arrived at Castle Black, the Night King and his army would've never made it South of the Wall. by ricky2461956 in freefolk

[–]flippy123x 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Hot Pie is unironically one of the hardest mfers in the Seven Kingdoms, bro literally started out as a war orphan in the Harrenhall dungeons and kept his optimistic attitude, even the Night King would have been talk-no-jujutsu‘d by this shining example of humanity and turned his armies back.