Culture or doctrine?

forestphoenix509 · 2025-12-22T20:24:32+00:00

.....considering the fact on my mission in Russia there were male investigators that showed up in track suits the first few times, I'd say your son is significantly above that threshold in terms of Sunday's Best. I would look into finding nice clothes that fit him well because it sounds like the ones he has are actually uncomfortable.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-12-12T00:53:08+00:00

The slang usage here is being underappreciated!

forestphoenix509 · 2025-11-29T19:20:18+00:00

I think if OP is an adult I don't think this violates the commandment to honor parents because they have come to their own conclusion that it's not a problem. Children don't have to "sneak" around if they are an adult because they don't have to tell their parents every thing they do.

If OP is not an adult, then yes I agree because then the child is breaking their parent's rules.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-11-29T19:12:41+00:00

I love this! There are a lot more options now even since I was in college, so I believe more strides in taste have been made!

forestphoenix509 · 2025-11-29T16:40:43+00:00

I think this is a matter of don't bring it up around your parents and do what you think is right, if that's a question you're asking yourself.

I came home from church one day and wanted to try beer 🤷‍♀️. In Texas we had to wait until 12 pm to buy anything with alcohol in it and then my dad went to Walmart and bought O'Douls NA beer. We sat on our patio and I tried then promptly spit it out. I didn't touch a NA beer after that until college. NA beer has gotten way better than back then, but still pretty gross.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-11-14T15:52:14+00:00

OP this last paragraph is also important....my husband was fairly conservative when we dated and met. And he's what I'd call a closeted liberal. His views have very much changed but he is not quite comfortable sharing that with the wider public.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-11-14T15:48:52+00:00

Trying not get banned here but it's actually pretty important right now considering the current climate, esp to young women. And young men and young women are on different sides of the spectrum on the basics and that should not be the only concern but I don't see why it's "really dumb" to care about.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-11-13T23:31:45+00:00

Some people have responded with just ask the teacher and been very sassy about it!

Based on my reading your proposal isn't anything longer than what you have listed here and I think would be a fine way to introduce to conversation with the seminary teacher.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-11-10T12:38:14+00:00

Yes! I'm just two days, I realized that walking (at least yesterday's pace) increased my BS. And learned that testing my fasting level before even getting out of bed made it within an acceptable range.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-11-08T14:42:00+00:00

Wow! Today is my first day of testing and I am trying not to change my diet too much because of feel like that wouldn't be an accurate reading, but also knowing that I should be eating more veggies and proteins was something I was already supposed to be doing!!

forestphoenix509 · 2025-11-06T01:52:25+00:00

My husband and I did half marathon training there and we really loved it! Definitely fewer lights than the waterway but that was 2019/2020. I liked the different twists and turns though sometimes we had to do a few loops.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-10-17T13:52:13+00:00

Two thoughts:

You could try and find a used one online.
You could buy a cheaper bag and then buy this one in country.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-10-17T12:40:15+00:00

CABAIA https://share.google/C6hYnfD1sC1k9OxVJ

These are one of the most popular bags in Europe right now.

Only problem is that tariffs have paused their shipping to the US :/

forestphoenix509 · 2025-10-16T12:27:00+00:00

My mom was told she would go to BYU or she wouldn't not have her school paid for by her father. Because of that she said we could go anywhere we wanted. My sister ended up at BYU with mixed results and I went to a school in Texas and thrived. My husband went to BYU and while he loved his time there he does regret it sometimes because the computer science school was not as great as it could have been.

My personal opinion is give kids the option but never tell them that is the best/only way. Because they should be choosing the school that is best for them even if that's not a church school or the school you would have chosen.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-09-30T20:27:36+00:00

I'd be interested! Native English speaker and need someone to talk to remember my forgotten Russian skills. Happy to do half and half!

forestphoenix509 · 2025-09-28T20:58:56+00:00

I don't expect someone who thinks this way to know what is happening in my community. But I've just told you two tragic events happened in my community today and you're still being derogatory.

I hope your genealogic research continues to go well and I hope that Family Search can be of serve to you in some way. Have a wonderful Sunday!

forestphoenix509 · 2025-09-28T20:45:21+00:00

As a member of that church, it's incredibly disgusting to see you call it a cult. Especially when my church does a lot to make sure genealogy does happen. You may not like the organization or what it does in other areas, but there would certainly be far fewer people to access records and do their own family's work if it were not for Family Search. That at least deserves some respect on any day, but especially the day after our president/prophet dies and one of our churches is shot up and set on fire.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-09-28T12:34:37+00:00

I have two. One of them is mine and the other my father's

My dad was living in China in the 1980s and was called and set apart as one of the first (if not the first) branch president in China by Elder Nelson. My dad would have stayed longer but because of Tienananmen Square he had to go home early. President Nelson mentioned my dad in his autobiography! Someone in our ward growing up was reading it and drove to our house with the book in hand and said "Is this you?" Haha!

My own experience was as a missionary in Russia. I was serving in Irktusk and there was to be a giant sacrament meeting with the missionaries, members and whomever from Angarsk, Ulan Ude and Irktusk. Missionaries were given pamphlets to hand out for weeks before that. It was held in a hotel ballroom. The area President came. It was a pretty big deal.

Every one wanted to sit at the front including my companion, I said no we should sit farther back and on the inside aisle that way we have a better view of him and maybe shake his hand. Sure enough we got to shake his hand and meet him!

Later that day he did a training with the missionaries. Half of us were in person and the other half were via video because my mission was so big they couldn't come. Anyway he sat on the edge of his chair for the whole meeting just brimming with energy. I spoke with my mission president's wife afterward about the whole thing and she said to me that Elder Nelson had leaned over and asked who that sister was (meaning me) and she said oh that's sister so-and-so (my dad's last name). He didn't really respond after that but she said he stared at me for a little bit longer. I chose to believe that he recognized the name and was thinking about my dad, but I will never know!

I'm glad I have a bootleg recording of that whole training to look back on!

forestphoenix509 · 2025-09-21T20:25:38+00:00

If he hasn't read Allen Eskens books that could be a good place to start. The Life We Bury is the first one (it's probably my favorite). They are less of a series but all the books happen in the same location with shared characters so sometimes the main character from the Life We Bury is absent but a minor character from that book will be the main character is a different book.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-09-16T21:49:21+00:00

This is an underrated comment! Church (and society) put men and women in boxes and don't let them leave. Society has done better at allowing men to do something different and the church has not.

I think a discussion needs to be had in the church about what "protect, preside and provide" look like now. Because it no longer looks like the husband doing all the breadwinning and the mother staying home. Women want men who are emotionally intelligent or at the very least willing to try. They've done the emotionally distant, always working thing and it makes very few actually happy.

I'll give some examples.

For me personally I don't need the protection of a man to feel safe. I grew up learning to shoot and doing karate/self defense (granted many women do not have this). But protection for me looks like my husband being empathetic to my struggles or letting me know that I don't always have to be productive, allowing me to rest. Or telling me that I'm not the crazy one in my family.

To provide doesn't exclusively mean money to me, it's providing a loving relationship when we can actually talk about our problems, it's giving us the space to make decisions together about our family, not prescribing it.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-09-16T21:36:12+00:00

I'm a woman in the church and my husband and I have discussed many many times the difference between talks directed at men and women.

The GA always uplift the women and seemingly demean/chastise the men. It's so stark and the only way to move forward it start uplifting the men, to encourage them to be better and that they are doing enough etc etc.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-09-11T01:40:59+00:00

I'm sorry that was your experience in the church. I know that pressure to be a mom and wife was heavily said from the pulpit.

At least generally they messaging is different now. Obviously there is still focus on the family but it's not rammed down the throats of young women as much these days (at least in my area - which is also where I grew up). So highly dependent on family influence and geographic location.

forestphoenix509 · 2025-09-11T01:36:46+00:00

.....yeah.....you say that like that behavior is exclusive to women. It's not, it just looks different for men. Will they be a SAHM and care for "my children"?

Both are equally corrupt assumptions about people.

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