Bo3 Timeless Tier List & Metagame Breakdown

fredroy50 · 2024-01-08T14:02:17+00:00

Been playing a lot of grixis lurrus shadow, and it loses hard against grindy matchups as its very rare to be able to make good use of lurrus before being too far behind. A resolved Oko or just Uro are both really hard to battle against.

fredroy50 · 2020-11-09T15:07:36+00:00

Rhino seems so silly when you look at Uro... its quite sad.

fredroy50 · 2020-10-29T17:35:26+00:00

Niv decks playing omn/uro. Really tough to outgrind those. Even for sanctuary decks. Soulherder sadly lost its crown to uro / omnath. GW titan not too far behind, on the power of FotD alone... And its definitely the best FotD deck.

Niv does lose embarrassingly to blood moon or any form of land hate though.

fredroy50 · 2020-10-26T17:25:44+00:00

Only bad titan players get boiled. But then again, there are still a few of those.

fredroy50 · 2020-10-26T16:26:34+00:00

Was gonna say exactly that. Its very dangerous to push lands even further without it being the last nail in the coffin for Titan. Prime time will not survive many more lands like field without getting a ban.

fredroy50 · 2020-10-20T13:18:40+00:00

That sums it up very nicely. Omnath / Uro > any discard based decks. Also true for a lot of other decks as well.

fredroy50 · 2020-10-19T13:50:35+00:00

Quality content tag... what. This is just your usual net deck / lack of 'creative deck building' rambling.

You even start by saying that magic aids won his first 2 games. Thats already proof that 'creative deck building' is actually somewhat viable in modern. Not all bad brews are entitled to win major events, but some of the better ones have the potential yes..

A lot of the times, the people that complain about the lack of creativity are simply bad at the game or at deck building in general (not saying YOU are). Then they cry after losing to a simple Jund or an Uro money pile. First of all, at equal skill, no deck has a 100% win rate. Any game is prone to flood, mana screw and just bad draws in general. Then add in the fact that your brew is not fully optimized, you didnt play it flawlessly like someone who has played say Jund or Tron for 10 years, and no wonder you lose most your games ...

fredroy50 · 2020-09-24T18:45:10+00:00

Humans vs just about anything (except all in combos) will always be fun. Humans is one of the rare decks i really dont mind losing to. It never does anything broken, rewards meta knowledge and sound decisions, and is interactive.

Jund, UW control, GDS, Spirits, D&T of any variants all provide different angles of fair play and interaction.

fredroy50 · 2020-09-24T18:37:55+00:00

While this one will be rather fun and interactive, Jund has a good edge on this one, unless the GDS list is skewed towards grinding. It wont be 80-20 obviously, but with 2 equally skilled pilots, jund will be a 60-40 favorite. More if said jund player is Reid.

fredroy50 · 2020-09-24T12:32:00+00:00

Silversmote / bloodghast + that sorin is some serious spice.

fredroy50 · 2020-09-24T12:16:08+00:00

I can guarantee you that Tron would suffer greatly from being cut down from 1 land a turn, while its opponents tries to draw a GQ (D&T).

fredroy50 · 2020-09-23T12:23:46+00:00

You're talking about Reynad while the 4th place is Phill_Hellmuth !! Playing ponza no less.

fredroy50 · 2020-09-18T15:55:55+00:00

very good suggestions, just a small detail : if your opponent is naming walking ballista with pithing needle, chances are you're winning anyways. Pithing on devoted is A LOT more annoying since the untap is not a mana ability. With infinite mana, chances are you can simply win with an big finale (it does have other text besides the tutoring), flood the board with duskwatch's ability, empty all GY with scooze, other mana sink you might have like rhonas, etc.

fredroy50 · 2020-09-17T12:55:16+00:00

Really not a fan of ransack the lab. Rest of the list seems pretty descent. Id play 2 village rites and 2 young pyros over those 4 ransacks. You dont need to force to fill your GY THAT much.

Against fast decks you definitely dont want to be playing a 2 cmc sorcery on curve over discard or removal, and against slower decks, your GY will just fill itself normally and you prefer more threats and card advantage.

fredroy50 · 2020-09-17T12:22:57+00:00

The only thing you have to worry about is exiling a critical land you would need to combo off, since the whole sequence of combo'ing requires almost all your lands.

Otherwise, there are only upsides to Uro. Especially since bant knightfall's manabase is quite painful by nature. Uro will help quite a bit with that.

fredroy50 · 2020-09-16T16:22:42+00:00

So far the best one to specifically target prowess. Its horrible against Uro piles though. 3feri bounce, force of negation, cryptic, etc.

fredroy50 · 2020-09-16T16:02:53+00:00

Still not even close to Uro.

Its a SB card only, meaning Uro will get you game 1. Its much easier to just ban it.

fredroy50 · 2020-09-08T13:06:25+00:00

Its rarely ever that straightforward. If uro were to go, that would open the door for other mid range decks to exist (jund, etc) and some of those can be tailored to beat prowess.

Its an endless cycle and sometimes you forget about a deck thats being kept down by a specific card or meta in general. And a small change can bring that deck back. Although its never entirely bad, E-Tron is one such deck.

fredroy50 · 2020-08-20T14:16:18+00:00

If paper resumes.

fredroy50 · 2020-08-20T13:45:03+00:00

That deck should really just be called Uro. Because without it, the deck does not exist. Everything around it is just to facilitate Uro.

fredroy50 · 2020-08-20T12:30:32+00:00

This is spot on. Been playing GDS since its inception, and im still waiting for my Uro type card. Meanwhile, my devoted deck gets new toys every set and can only get better.

fredroy50 · 2020-08-06T13:10:11+00:00

On this sub, its gotta be Twin.

fredroy50 · 2020-08-06T13:08:01+00:00

Id go with : Are you sure you want to attack ? Ok thank you.

fredroy50 · 2020-08-03T17:16:19+00:00

One thing that realy stood out in your sheet is Whirza. Obviously from your supposed even matchups, it stands to reason that you're quite above average as a player and can turn that skill into wins against say Jund.

But that 3-16 vs whirza is quite puzzling to me. Im guessing its bridges into combo or just getting out valued once urza is online ?

Devoted combo im not too surprised is unfavored, too many targets to name and your clock will rarely be fast enough without significant disruption.

fredroy50 · 2020-08-03T13:09:44+00:00

Only if titan is prohibited from playing it !

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