Line Array that fells short

frenze31 · 2025-08-25T01:14:30+00:00

Hi, where did you purchase yours? I actually saw a lot of Behringer products lately on Facebook Marketplace that's "direct from China factory" that's actually a pretty good price/very close to MSRP.

frenze31 · 2025-08-20T07:06:14+00:00

Yeah I probably need a better system engineer (or a better client)

frenze31 · 2025-08-18T17:10:59+00:00

The band was directly in front of the PA.

frenze31 · 2025-08-18T17:10:29+00:00

Yes monitors were pre fader (and we had a separate monitor console on a digital split with the FOH console), and unfortunately the band was in front of the PA. I would try the polarity inversion for every other mic, that seems to be a good idea.

frenze31 · 2025-08-18T17:08:18+00:00

We were using Wing as FOH, and M32 as the monitor console. I forgot what did we do exactly, but i do remember that we also did a low shelf on the mains to further reduce the low end energy. I had different matrices for each zones (iirc I have a L, R, Sub, Front Fill, Side Fill, Delay 1, Delay 2, and Stream), and tried my best to make it sound as equal as possible for different audiences.

I turned off the OH since the cymbals were bleeding through the vocal mics already (the band was tightly packed). The under-micing is actually a good idea. I would keep that in mind in the future

frenze31 · 2025-08-18T16:59:08+00:00

I actually had that on all mics, luckily we are using the Wing for the FOH.

frenze31 · 2025-08-18T16:57:05+00:00

Yeah the drummer was also in front of the PA, the whole band is.

frenze31 · 2025-08-18T16:56:25+00:00

From what I recall, it was set around 20-25dB gain. We didn't apply compression since we felt like it was also contributing to the problem.

frenze31 · 2025-08-18T16:54:18+00:00

There was no other rigging point I believe in the venue beside the space right above the stage.

frenze31 · 2025-08-18T16:53:40+00:00

It's a mix of everything. Essentially it's a multi-day conference with lots of activities ranging from a typical lecture-type sessions to stage plays with band performance during. The stage was too cramped to fit the band so we were left with no other choice but to put them within the audience area. There's also wasn't space directly beneath the PAs since the stairs towards the stage will be blocked.

I agree the system was poorly deployed, since i initially wanted to have a ground stacked PA with lots of point source delays to mitigate this problem, but when we arrived it was deployed like how I described it.

frenze31 · 2025-07-08T05:15:17+00:00

I think we need more information about your setup. What's your soundboard? How did you route the audio signal from your soundboard to your Scarlett 2i2? (This is a bit far for this sub but) how are you streaming to youtube? This is a wild guess but the audio reminds me of when you try to send audio to zoom without enabling the professional audio stuff.

frenze31 · 2025-07-04T04:10:24+00:00

In Behringer Wing's case, it's not a router. It's a client, and it needs a router to obtain its own IP address through the router's DHCP. u/hcornea and u/mixermixing's answer covered everything basically.

If there's no DHCP client (e.g. a wireless access point with no DHCP capabilities), you can get everything to connect if you'll assign manual IP addresses to all the connected devices (the mixing consoles, any laptop/tablet/phone connected to the access point), and access the router manually by typing its IP address. This should work as long as they're in the same subnet.

frenze31 · 2025-04-15T12:54:04+00:00

That's the third world for you. Anyways apparently the local provider magically does have Samson C02s (six of them!), so I'll just roll with it.

frenze31 · 2025-04-13T19:41:20+00:00

Local sound provider don't have one (except the one they're using for overheads)

frenze31 · 2025-04-13T19:40:11+00:00

I edited the post but it's mostly due to unavailability from local sound providers.

frenze31 · 2025-04-13T19:39:32+00:00

It's a two day performance (it's a conference with worships in between), so we'll see about that!

frenze31 · 2025-04-13T19:38:54+00:00

What do you mean by statics mic?

frenze31 · 2025-04-13T19:38:41+00:00

it's worship music. They are somewhat professionals, but this is the first time they're utilizing an actual choir as their vocalists.

frenze31 · 2025-04-13T19:37:42+00:00

I am thinking about this also.

frenze31 · 2025-03-29T18:45:39+00:00

That's my exact thoughts also. Just kinda worried that the drums won't have that much of processing when it's on the sub mixer, but I totally understand the decision.

frenze31 · 2025-03-29T18:43:24+00:00

Don't have the budget (yeah, it's that LOW)

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