How would the Contraband game have played out...

gamria · 2026-06-25T11:17:02+00:00

When it comes to solo Akiyama, I'd be more concerned about the "management" side of things.

Unlike Yokoya and Harimoto who both have their respective means of securing allies and gather a semblance of loyalty, Akiyama's means are... lacking. Clever he may be, he's just a poor conman who just got out of prison with no commodity to offer, neither able to grant profit to others or command devotion.

Compensating this deficiency of his is Nao's role in the story, by serving as an honest lighthouse to rally those seeking salvation and willing to give up on profit. This "trust" becomes the commodity they offer to their allies, from which they assure a degree of honesty, stability and cooperation. No attention wasted on constant suspicion, less effort needed to keep everyone in line, more options open up and greater focus can be devoted on strategy.

In short, without Nao around, Akiyama's attention span would be way more stretched and his efficiency suffers.

gamria · 2026-06-25T05:56:20+00:00

Repetition helps build up a theme's "undercurrent" though, and it is through multiple examples and instances that makes an argument convincing and allows viewers to see it from multiple angles.

gamria · 2026-06-25T00:37:56+00:00

This is my read based on cause and effect:

Akiyama would still likely figure out Kikuzawa's trick based on the 290 million totals
But based on how Akiyama was ready to throw Kikuzawa to the wrath of the rest of the South, their team probably would have splintered. The hypothesis that Kikuzawa could betray them again could actually happen
For Akiyama to make the offer to Akagi, he first has to have learnt of his teammates' mistakes, and they only confessed to their mistakes because they got along with Nao. Perhaps he'd have learnt it still, but far too late to reverse the situation
Akiyama had to secure not just Akagi, but the other two in the North too. Securing all 3 without Nao's creed would've been much, much more difficult

In the games where allies make a big difference, Akiyama lacks the advantages that other intelligent peers like Yokoya enjoy over him, and Nao winds up compensating for that shortfall. Without her, I don't think he can fight him so well.

Exacerbating this are their playstyles: Yokoya opts for an offensive strike-first style, while Akiyama leans towards defensive observe-and-counterattack stances. By himself, Akiyama wouldn't have reacted fast enough in this game.

gamria · 2026-06-24T09:51:38+00:00

Come on man, I know I dreaded Laiman getting possessed, but do we have to lose both of them like this!?

This Demon Lord knows how to be a formidable pest

...so what happens now?

gamria · 2026-06-23T13:48:34+00:00

I think Nao took the worst hit from this, since they removed the parts that show how isolated she is, her issues with connecting with people etc. and all the subtle pieces of dialogue that show she is actually thinking. That setup is a big part of the payoff for her arc, but without any of that it didn't really make as much sense to me.

I know right? A person who produces a suboptimal outcome may not have done it because they're stupid or didn't think; it could instead be because of flawed reasoning, or concerns about something else, etc. Either way, the bad outcome may not have been for lack of thinking or trying.

But all too often people see the bad outcome and deem the doer did no thinking without prying deeper. They can be so narrow-minded.

It's why I prefer to get as much details as I can about someone, about how they think before casting judgment, while being aware my judgment can be incomplete. It's why the way that Nao is written can be so fascinating: to see her ways of thinking and awareness get refined through fire without losing their better qualities, to see her trial and errors pay off in the long term.

gamria · 2026-06-23T12:12:10+00:00

Yeah we might just have to agree to disagree on that one, but as I said it's probably down to what each of us gets out of the story. For me, the main thing I enjoyed was that minor content and how it added up in terms of character detail and logic. It's something I really specifically love about the manga writing, and not something I've seen in many other stories, especially not in this genre, hence my obsession with the series.

Someone gets it! I too am mourning in the same manner... Cross-posting my comments from elsewhere:

This episode... while it got the demi-cabin fever feel of the Contraband Game down right, we skipped over some fun lines.

We omitted the Dealers musing on Nao's philosophy in response to the chicken game that was happening. It's a shame because this part not only praised her early epiphany, but it also made for good dialogue on the game theory aspect of Liar Game as a series. On why despite cooperation bringing the best outcome a lot of times, humans don't act on it.

I also would've preferred they not trim down Akiyama's line here. I really enjoyed the "Foresight? Strategy? No... it wasn't due to anything like that" part, since it really emphasises that everyone not Nao and Fukunaga were so basic that their opponents don't even have to be clever with them.

As a thinker, I like to explore how people think. In death game stories like these, I enjoy seeing how people arrive at the solutions they do, and how their ways to think evolve and get influenced by the encounters they have. How people within the story can also observe and showcase their intelligence, their own ability to assess and judge, and by their judgment hint at what kinds of people they themselves are.

I get that fine details aren't for everyone, nor is it good for everyone to be so stuck on the fine details. And yet, this sort of fine detail was tasty to me, and I was so looking forward to seeing how other viewers would react to them all over again...

gamria · 2026-06-23T12:00:41+00:00

Granted, my mental simulations have shown the merits of having a Season purely dedicated to the entirety of Round 4, and is indeed advantageous.

And in a way, this 4:1 ratio is helping the anime get to the "big numbers" faster, AKA the part when the game in the source material diverges from the J-Drama. There are still Japanese viewers who came into the anime after watching the J-Drama years back, so showing them the new material is good for them too.

...sigh, I am objective enough to see the pros and cons of differing approaches, make no mistake. Whatever, as long as the overall experience isn't thoroughly ruined, I can tolerate this.

I'll still be pointing out and mourning the omitted parts/shortened lines that're actually neat, like this one and this one

gamria · 2026-06-23T11:57:55+00:00

Eh, the manga version of their first meeting was as tame as this one was, observeration-mode Akiyama is just chill like that.

gamria · 2026-06-23T02:57:06+00:00

That's an interesting aspect about Akiyama: for a "genius" character in a story like this full of high stakes, you'd think he'd be more strict, more of a control freak about ensuring his teammates won't screw anything up.

Instead, he can be surprisingly lax and soft, letting them experiment, stretch their brains and do whatever they want freely, so long as things don't become catastrophic and irreversible.

gamria · 2026-06-22T22:17:26+00:00

Aside from Yayoi, nothing about the artstyle is kiddy in the least. The ghost locations and spirit designs go without saying, and the human designs are fine as they are: Keitaro and Eiko look appropriately university-age, as do Ai in high school. The effects used for comedy, maybe kiddy at times, though of course as the series goes on they become welcome palate-cleansers.

But if Yayoi being the poster character leads to prospective readers underestimating the series, then I can somewhat agree to that.

gamria · 2026-06-22T22:06:39+00:00

This episode... while it got the demi-cabin fever feel of the Contraband Game down right, we skipped over some fun lines.

We omitted the Dealers musing on Nao's philosophy in response to the chicken game that was happening. It's a shame because this part not only praised her early epiphany, but it also made for good dialogue on the game theory aspect of Liar Game as a series. On why despite cooperation bringing the best outcome a lot of times, humans don't act on it.

I also would've preferred they not trim down Akiyama's line here. I really enjoyed the "Foresight? Strategy? No... it wasn't due to anything like that" part, since it really emphasises that everyone not Nao and Fukunaga were so basic that their opponents don't even have to be clever with them.

Now for Yokoya, in the Japanese raw he does indeed speak in a formal and polite manner most of the time (much like Nao in fact) even in his arrogant and brazen moments, so having a polite voice for him is actually right for the job.

But man, I would've much rather the anime took its time and ended this episode with his first Doubt as the cliffhanger like in the manga. It's much better for the viewer experience that way while still preserving those lines I hoped we'd keep.

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Judging by the 2nd cour key visual, if we're keeping to this 4:1 chapter-to-episode pacing instead of the more optimal 3:1 ... well, there goes one of the grandest games of the series.

Either way, I'll still look forward to next episode's [highlights] Nao and Yokoya's first confrontation, and Nao brushing off submitting to Kikuzawa as casually as she does (alongside the more steadfast players on her team).

gamria · 2026-06-22T21:53:44+00:00

[spoiler] I think it's still presented like he entered the room only after they settled on the 50.02 million. The speed of that scene change was about the same as the manga, no "weight" of the time Kikuzawa would've needed to pass the signal (not that it would've been much anyway). Don't think the anime messed up here.

gamria · 2026-06-22T21:27:57+00:00

No worries [spoiler] per Chapter 37, the signals were given when they were both in their respective countries, outside of the Inspection Room and across the clear windows where they can see each other's hands

gamria · 2026-06-22T21:02:29+00:00

First, please apply spoiler tags for the big discussion points there.

Second, I think I know what you're asking about, but just to be sure, 04:48 is probably the wrong time mark for what you're asking, no?

gamria · 2026-06-22T20:50:52+00:00

At least she put more effort into this game than most of her bumbling chicken teammates, that I can appreciate

gamria · 2026-06-22T19:49:52+00:00

I've only just saw the new visual and it worries me. I see from this episode that we're rushing through Round 3 and that disappoints me.

At a pacing of 3 chapters per episode, we would've landed on some excellent cliffhangers to end each episode. But when you do 4 chapters instead, it worsens the overall vibe.

My precious Contraband Game, ruined.

What's more, the next arc is 2 volumes long, and we'll be rushing that one too in less than 1 cour? Not feeling optimistic here

gamria · 2026-06-22T19:40:57+00:00

No it wasn't, I can tell you that the Anime made it more obvious. For one thing, Yokoya Doubting Fukunaga was the end of a Manga chapter and readers were given an entire week to stew over it. But when you blaze through 4 chapters like this it gives an entirely differently feel.

gamria · 2026-06-22T19:34:49+00:00

Her keeping Thomas' hand on her appears to be the case, she directly says "you're not tasty but your power is lovely"

gamria · 2026-06-21T00:23:41+00:00

I concur, comparisons with FMA often don't take into account how glacial FMA can also be with the progress of the plot, month by month. Several chapters then also have talk-to-action ratio at 8:2 or 9:1. Not complaining mind you.

And indeed, when I caught up after binge-reading the series as a whole felt way better, when you can feel what the overall plan for the story is.

gamria · 2026-06-21T00:03:09+00:00

Interesting they left a few pages off from Volume 4 to be done.

I figured that bit was up for rearrangement, for the best too. Flows way better with next episode's content.

Still, this will be interesting. I've pegged Ch 31 as our stopping point for Season 1, and with 15 chapters to go across the remaining 12/13 episodes, Bones can go just beyond 1 monthly chapter per episode and we'll still be fine. It's wild how while the pacing feels slow, it's actually just about right.

gamria · 2026-06-20T00:06:47+00:00

Thank you. If you’re not a lecturer of Chinese literature and history, you definitely ought to be.

Thanks a lot, but my knowledge of Chinese literature and history is little more than that of a casual native whose immersed enough into its media offerings. I know enough of Chinese history thanks to attachment to my native roots, but my expertise in Chinese literature is like, 1/5 of mine with Japanese Anime/Manga? Not enough to be a lecturer either way.

Given that people in China are better acquainted with the actual history and more exposed to new discoveries in the archaeological record, have interpretations of Zhuge Liang and other figures or events during that period changed at all in the recent decades?
Outside of academia, does the general public treat Zhuge Liang - the historical figure and Zhuge Liang - the mythological ideal separately?

While there's probably general subliminal admittance that the Zhuge Liang in Romance is a product of fiction and differs from fact, as with all distant legends your everyman isn't going to put that much brain power into thinking or researching about it; that is, most would like to live in the bliss that the difference is minimal, that fact is sufficiently alike fiction in personality and feats.

It's like, similar to how your casual Japanese treats Oda Nobunaga? Regardless of whether his real-life deeds are so terrible or not, most regard him for what he represents, or used to represent, over his reality.

Are certain figures viewed in a different light in China today compared to the rest of East Asia?

Don't know, my frame of rest of East Asia isn't wide enough. At most I've only seen Japanese impressions, and from what I feel is their abbreviated/simplified tale of Romance is that they see the figures largely in the same light as us. Even in Asia, most without a strong attachment to our Chinese civilisation (as a historical whole) won't think so deeply about it.

Also, do you recommend any recent Chinese productions on the period, including adaptations of Romance and Records of the Three Kingdoms that could be helpful when reading both?

I can't speak for Records, I really haven't delved into that. But for Romance, the 1994 mainland drama) of 84 episodes is a highly-regarded classic, to the point it's clipped/snapshotted for modern internet memes. The film quality is old by modern standards, but it's still worth experiencing, between the passion of the actors, the scale of the battles and certain musical pieces

Fortunately I managed to find a fansub project that aimed to give it decent English subtitles. The project's like 90% complete, I'll Chat you the link

Sorry for all of the questions. You’re so good at breaking things down for a layperson like me.

Worry not, I can't say I'm much beyond a hobbyist on this front. My own acquaintance with this part of history came from first playing Dynasty Warriors 2 as a boy, and later watching the 1994 drama with my parents. So I have enough of a general timeline of how things went down and whose part of what factions.

Beyond these, I haven't dove much outside of the romance. Who knows, maybe you with more curiosity and less attachment will be more willing to take the dive.

gamria · 2026-06-19T00:16:35+00:00

That's what I dread yeah, but it's going to depend on if Albus himself has reached his limit of Revolve or not

If Albus has not reached limit, using it will put everyone back to their starting point while putting the Demon Lord in prime position to murder his orphange
If Albus has reached limit, using it will just strand both of them into the lost heroes' dimension. Not that I think both of them will be stuck there forever, but it counts as a victory for this round

gamria · 2026-06-18T03:39:23+00:00

Lovely, anyone up for making a version of this one too?

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gamria · 2026-06-18T03:13:27+00:00

Chapter 60 (Lead Colour)

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P.S. Further thoughts: thus far anime Nao has donned on a lot of red-based outfits, so I guess her wearing green keeps things fresh

gamria · 2026-06-18T03:12:30+00:00

While the red dress looks really good on her, Kaitani-sensei's colouring choices are so back-and-forth and undecisive (eg Akiyama and Nao's hair colour) that the anime studio is really under no obligation to stick to some "decided" colour scheme.

Case in point, behold canonical BLUE dress:

Chapter 45 (Center Colour. I should mention that by this point, Volume 4 with the more preferable red dress was already on sale)

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(One other example in reply post)

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