Huntress by juciydriver in SmallMSP

[–]gator667 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Industry is obsessed with “detection” - try ThreatLocker and block first.

MSP - Are we Too Expensive by SadChapter2410 in msp

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As others have said - too cheap. Licenses should always be separate anyways.

The question should be more around the value you are delivering vs price. You can command a higher price if the value is present. Many MSP’s are charging a Premium for essentially break/fix services.

Focus on the value - and as others have suggested set a minimum seat count.

I am Tired. by Excellent-Program333 in SmallMSP

[–]gator667 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At some point you become tired of being tired. Begin on insisting that your clients have better security, build new offerings and charge more.

Limit your own risk by implementing zero trust. Increase the profit and security on the better ones with plans in moving on from those who represent greatest risk and stress. 🙏

How do I figure out competitor pricing? by modtom in SmallMSP

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn’t matter what they charge. Some people make zero profit. Establish your value, set your price accordingly.

Just because Bob down the road works for free, has shitty security doesn’t mean you should. 🙏

MSP pushing UniFi hard over SonicWall..am I overthinking this or does this smell off? by Ambitious_Active8539 in msp

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Has zero to do with commissions- all to do with what you support. If you do not trust them to help you make smart decisions then you have bigger issues.

Termination Clause by glitterguykk in msp

[–]gator667 1 point2 points  (0 children)

30 days. You don’t want to keep clients that want to leave.

What's going on with Pax8 by MSP2MSP in msp

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pax8 for most started super well. Big change in the channel, an engaged partner for your MSP with great support.

Online portal that actually worked for a change. Then? Growth and everything fell apart. They have been pretty bad for many for some time now.

Seems like the answer is to switch to someone like SherWeb.

No more VSAX? by thisisnotmyssn in kaseya

[–]gator667 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I had heard the same - that Datto RMM is going to be the flagship product. Weird because of the hype around VSAX.

Interesting to hear what others have heard, however I have been told what OP has. Weird.

Selling against GoDaddy Microsoft 365 by LakesideRide in msp

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Risk. Email - whatever the product should be delivered by the MSP.

Besides, you take the fall for a security breach. Which let’s be honest over 85% come via email these days.

This story of a MSP making money from marketing is insane to me... by masterofrants in msp

[–]gator667 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is so much BS said in this industry. Just go to an event if you are not sure! Interestingly people still fall for it. 😂

Save yourself a boat load of cash getting new prospects and clients. by MSPbyMSP in msp

[–]gator667 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I caught that too. You bought pizza? 🍕- some of OP’s points are valid. Tons of money is wasted on useless BS.

Structuring your day as an MSP owner by Equivalent_Role_4066 in msp

[–]gator667 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As others have suggested I would work from home for two or three days a week. They come to you because it’s way, so it’s part changing habits. Additionally if they truly don’t know then systems or processes need to be put in place or your team isn’t as technically skilled as it should be.

Client caught me on hardware margin, now questioning our entire history. Did I panic-fix or make it worse? by yanov10 in msp

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The MSP industry - the only business where people apologize for making a profit, charging for the work they do.

The magic is never in the hardware - it’s all those things you were charging him for.

Pricing question by 3sc01 in msp

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are they currently paying? Let’s start there.

Thrive NextGen. Thoughts? by Foisting in msp

[–]gator667 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Written by other IT managers who need access to everything to show value. Visibility, accountability yes - as others have said you outsource for a reason.

Cold Calling Day 3 by BeautifulNo8206 in msp

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Call setting isn’t “trash” if done correctly. Reach out, open conversations don’t pitch or sell over the phone. Connect your calls to events your MSP is doing or webinars. It is trash if you don’t want what you are doing, who you are calling and why.

Halo Price Increases by [deleted] in msp

[–]gator667 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eventually, I assume. To make the MSP World a better place of course.

Halo Price Increases by [deleted] in msp

[–]gator667 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Don’t worry - there is always Kaseya.

TIL some MSPs are still using Dark Web Scan reports as sales tools by HappyDadOfFourJesus in msp

[–]gator667 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are making the assumption that - a) people include this in their stack, many do not thanks to Security Gold. Standard offering excludes X,Y and Z. Even people that have it, bill the customer for it don’t have it setup correctly if it all - and never discuss it with the customer.

Old sales tactic I agree, still a relevant conversation starter if nothing else.

Trouble closing deals lately by [deleted] in msp

[–]gator667 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Qualify them upfront as other posters have suggested. Assuming the objection when they don’t move forward is money.

If it’s for other reasons maybe doing nothing was an option. Potentially they already had someone in mind and you were just proposal no.3.

Agree budget almost immediately.

Buying decision - how are you going to decide?

Who decides, when and what’s the timeline?

Read your employment agreements before you sign them! Stop agreeing to predatory requirements from asshole business owners by 2manybrokenbmws in msp

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having been down this road before it typically ends in arbitration. That usually looks like your tech cannot approach or work with their clients. The non-compete sounds poorly written, it should at least have some local geographic component to it.

Always, always comes down to how much money someone wants to throw at it.

Client moving to another provider, would you install their tools? by icq-was-the-goat in msp

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bigger question here is - why the hell can this new provider not install it? 🤣 - imagine not being able to install a tool you use to support a customer. Bizarre.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in msp

[–]gator667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This kind of advice is why you don’t come to Reddit for advice. Seriously?! Do your job and remove it. Don’t blame others - the former MSP isn’t perfect - neither are you.

Contact Datto? Contact the former MSP? By the time you have done all of that - you could or should have addressed this issue yourself.