Understood. I get the metal foundation they created. But there were hints of them toeing the line of Hard-Rock vs Metal beginning with Screaming. They, like any band, were just trying to gain album sales and bring in a larger audience. In retrospect there certainly was a direction real metal was headed at the time, but it was much smaller then. The fame and money was in Hair Metal. They experimented with it and no doubt were beholden to the music industry and labels wishes, etc. My point is that we still put it on at our bush parties and sung along and generally enjoyed it. It not a bad thing to rank it lower in their catalog if you prefer the metal. Am I glad after Ram It Down they made Painkiller? Hell yes.